[Biassasecumma]

There is nowhere written that woman must cook at home, Then what is written, who should take the responsibility of house.

[veizKinquiz]

Then what is written, who should take the responsibility of house.

Yes, I know, but it is not said that woman must take all task directly and also that sharing of tasks is not appreciated. I think it is more social question.
I do not question role of woman in house, but it can vary from society to society and from family to family how reality is set without making anything against islam.

[Biassasecumma]

Assalamu alaykum

but it can vary from society to society and from family to family how reality is set without making anything against islam. So Islam has flexibility. So question should be asked according to the situation. If some one has taken the responsibility of both inside and outside, others need not follow that. Ruling is given for specific situation. But the modern society aims at bringing the women totally out of their houses and they want to move along with others.

Normally I say, "you start with a hobby, or rather to prove yourself, then it becomes your RESPONSIBILITY", a point of no return.

[giturbewan]

Yes, I know, but it is not said that woman must take all task directly and also that sharing of tasks is not appreciated. I think it is more social question.
I do not question role of woman in house, but it can vary from society to society and from family to family how reality is set without making anything against islam.

Bismillahi
But leadership is a highly responsible position carrying huge tasks that it can't be adjusted like day to day life inside the house. If inside the house, a woman gets sick or tired, men can help them and even in their daily tasks, man can help them out of love and affection and Prophet SAW used to do some house hold work too but leadership is an entirely different thing for it is best suited for men and may be women can give suggestion if they are asked for but taking the position by herself as a leader is not fitting to her and so I think there can't be any argument if she has to be a leader or not. Allahu alam.

[veizKinquiz]

Assalamu alaykum



So Islam has flexibility. So question should be asked according to the situation. If some one has taken the responsibility of both inside and outside, others need not follow that. Ruling is given for specific situation. But the modern society aims at bringing the women totally out of their houses and they want to move along with others.

Normally I say, "you start with a hobby, or rather to prove yourself, then it becomes your RESPONSIBILITY", a point of no return.

Salam alikum,
I agree entierly, I said many times women in west that they are exploated becasue they must work outside home they have many times no choice,even they are married and have husband who works, becasue society does not appreciate women at home. So strange.
I am one who suports women here stay home with kids and take care of home, but there are also women who work and it is all OK with them in family - married or unmarried, younger or older....
Yes it must be according to situation, I agree.

[SteantyjetMaw]

Assalamu alaikum.
I think men working and women staying home makes sense on many levels.
A man needs rest from a hard day at work so he can go the next and again work hard to earn enough money to support his family.
A house is not easy to look after & keep in order with food cooked everyday, plus children to look after. I think it is very unfair that a woman should have to work, go home & cook, clean, look after children's needs etc... It's just too much to ask of one person. Why do we have so much more divorce as time goes on?
I think a big reason is because people don't have roles in daily life.
A woman is the leader of they're home, isn't that enough?

[Qualarrizab]

Salam alikum,
I would like to create my oipinion on women leadership in islam, specially leadership at work and then political leadership and state leadership. I have read a lot about subject, for example story of Benazir Bhuto, and some islamic view on this subject also the hadith where is mentioned that no state under woman leadership will prosper. I would appreciate any idea, I hope it will be interesting for many to make more clear picture about this woman role beside other her roles.

wa'alaykumu salaam sister
the hadith mentioned by yourself in the post says it all sister...the whole world can be turned upside down, the sun can stop rising, the seas can dry up...however the words of our Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam can never be worng!

So now, if it is as clear as day that a nation under the leadership of women will never prosper, i really do not see the need for a discussion on it.

As for the role of mother/wife/home maker, it is only natural that a woman takes on that role since the role of the man is as breadwinner/protector etc.....This is of course in an ideal Muslim home where each compliments the other perfectly! Sadly nowadays each person is more worried about demanding their rights than fulfilling them. May Allah ta'ala guide us on the path leading to His pleasure.

[veizKinquiz]

wa'alaykumu salaam sister
the hadith mentioned by yourself in the post says it all sister...the whole world can be turned upside down, the sun can stop rising, the seas can dry up...however the words of our Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam can never be worng!

So now, if it is as clear as day that a nation under the leadership of women will never prosper, i really do not see the need for a discussion on it.

As for the role of mother/wife/home maker, it is only natural that a woman takes on that role since the role of the man is as breadwinner/protector etc.....This is of course in an ideal Muslim home where each compliments the other perfectly! Sadly nowadays each person is more worried about demanding their rights than fulfilling them. May Allah ta'ala guide us on the path leading to His pleasure.

Salam alikum,
yes this hadith says much, even some scholar doubt that it was actually said by our Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam. However this hadith is about leadership of state and many wives of our Propher were encouraged to work for society. Am I right? For me as not-arabic speaking person would be also interesting to know what it means - prosper.... specially in this hadith.
It is very simple what you say and also I agree there is much demand on rights nowdays and may be not enough endeavour to fulfilling the duties. It is time to make this and that, both sides are important.
We are equal in front of Allah, and no one can take from us duties and rights, only allah, the same with right to seek for knowledge in islam.
I am not one having aspiration to rule the state. And also I accept the text sent by another brother that it is better if men rules even if woman would be smarter and more intelligent.... I think you would make angry many but not me. However the ruling by women at any level is not forbiden - still having this opinion.

[Loonakind]

Why do you do so? It is misunderstood all this subject in my opinion. No one in management and in politics decides himself about important things - it is always more people involved, always person is part of system - male or female. Of course there are personal decisions which everyone makes for him or her self. I really dont understand - if husband is OK with his wife being leader in business for example or in public life - why it is such a problem. It can be considered that she get big confidence in theri relationship, it can be considered they know and honor each other, it can also be considered that he does not loose any superiority above her. I really am not persuaded - no seeing any prohibition to be leader. (except that QUESTIONED hadith about state being led by woman......).
There is beautiful new mosque of Sheikh Zayed in Abu Dhabi - the project manager was woman.

Salam alikum

Sis, my post was a bunch of silliness. I tend to favor Dr. Umar's opinion more because... well, people have chosen their woman as leaders before and have prospered. England's Golden Age was under Elizabeth I--In direct contradiction of that hadith! (it's okay though, she didn't know).

Whether or not a woman can be the khalifa (sort of a moot point since really NOBODY can be the khalifa right now) I think it's very important women be in senior leadership positions because, well, we have women in society, so we will need their input on important leadership decisions.

And I don't know where you all are from, but man in America, the sisters run the show here. They are on the forefront of Islam for one major reason: hijab. A brother can go day by day and people might not even suspect they are muslim (unless they "look a-rab or something), but hijabis? No such luck! Let's hear it for the sisters! :halalfistbump:

[Promalada]

And I don't know where you all are from, but man in America, the sisters run the show here. They are on the forefront of Islam for one major reason: hijab. A brother can go day by day and people might not even suspect they are muslim (unless they "look a-rab or something), but hijabis? No such luck! Let's hear it for the sisters! :halalfistbump:

Men too would be at the forefront of Islam if they let they beards grow as men and wear islamic attire, instead of leaving all the responsabilities of representing Islam to their women and acting as women themselves.

Anyway, back to the topic, I think this may result interesting:

Women Leaders - http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2007/...msa-president/

[iodillalm]

There was a case back during the Crusades, the Sultan of Egypt died while his son was away near Turkey. So the Queen briefly took control, kept the Sultan's death secret until the son got back, because the Crusaders had invaded by sea.

[Chooriwrocaey]

Sis, my post was a bunch of silliness. I tend to favor Dr. Umar's opinion more because... well, people have chosen their woman as leaders before and have prospered. England's Golden Age was under Elizabeth I--In direct contradiction of that hadith! (it's okay though, she didn't know).

Whether or not a woman can be the khalifa (sort of a moot point since really NOBODY can be the khalifa right now) I think it's very important women be in senior leadership positions because, well, we have women in society, so we will need their input on important leadership decisions.

And I don't know where you all are from, but man in America, the sisters run the show here. They are on the forefront of Islam for one major reason: hijab. A brother can go day by day and people might not even suspect they are muslim (unless they "look a-rab or something), but hijabis? No such luck! Let's hear it for the sisters! :halalfistbump:

Brother, your right on most levels. The sisters definitely are holding the fort down, but don't count us brothers out...Grow your beard out and everyone will know your a Muslim. (I'm talking about a real beard, fist length, no designer beards).

[veizKinquiz]

Salam alikum,
thank you for link , again very interesting one about that hadith -...
I always stay astonished the islam is for any time, every society, opens new and new views and way how to deal in this life.
Our role is at home and with family first, but there can be conditions which result to women leadership - I hope that is possible keeping all islamic rules. so happy that I might share couple of ideas. Just adding one link - with some important women leader throught the times http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Muslim_Leaders.htm
thank you btw I am hijabi sister from cuontry with less than 1 percent of muslim population, one day niqabi inshalllah

[pipitous]

Salam Alweykum,

Sister you can take part in politics and be a political activist and you can debate and write articles and even join MWA so on... Just not a leader such as a President or army general or minister...
These are the Jobs of Men and if a Nation has no Men to take these responsibilities then it really is a sad nation.

[MasTaBlau]

Depends what you mean by leadership role. A woman is not allowed to run the country (like a khalifah) but since when isn't she allowed to run a business? It all depends on definition

[pipitous]

Depends what you mean by leadership role. A woman is not allowed to run the country (like a khalifah) but since when isn't she allowed to run a business? It all depends on definition

She is allowed to run a business is she not? I mean Khadeejah (ra) did run a business.

[MasTaBlau]

She is allowed to run a business is she not? I mean Khadeejah (ra) did run a business.

Yeah, thats what I'm saying. Plus, I don't know why a woman would neccessarily want to run a country. Umar (RA) once said that even if a dog dies by a river somewhere, he has to answer for it on the Day of Judgement (or something along those lines)

[brulpcoersero]

Two things. Tape Monkey: Lexington. Are you down with the Fons Vitae group?
Second of those two things: what do people think of Dr. Ingrid Mateson(sp?)

[Innockcroff]

Salam alikum,
I would like to create my oipinion on women leadership in islam, specially leadership at work and then political leadership and state leadership. I have read a lot about subject, for example story of Benazir Bhuto, and some islamic view on this subject also the hadith where is mentioned that no state under woman leadership will prosper.
I would appreciate any idea, I hope it will be interesting for many to make more clear picture about this woman role beside other her roles.

Wa alaykumu s-salam.

Well, I don't mind if the woman to become the leader because I've never heard any al-Qur'an verses or ahadith which says a woman can't be a leader.
In my personal opinion, it's fine as long as the woman use al-Qur'an and ahadith as reference.
And as long as the woman does not rule by using emotion (you know what I mean right?).
I'll be fine if the woman rules by using logic and brain and thinking.

[iodillalm]

Can a woman be your Boss at work?