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Old 05-15-2011, 01:05 AM   #1
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Default Time and existing outside of it
Salam alaykum. Is it possible for creation to exist outside of time? Before time existed.... Is this possible for creation? Really confused about this. Had been told some creation are like that.*Of course creation any and all creation had to have had a beginning.

Also if you have wasawis about something and you just say to yourself "Whatever Allah wants me to believe about this I believe in that."
Because you cannot go to a shaykh all the time for every question, some which are silly.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:30 AM   #2
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It's not logically possible. If something is created, that means that there was a point in time when it did not exist and it was brought into existence at a later point in time. So being created necessitates being subject to time. But keep in mind, we cannot really even fully comprehend time itself anyway.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:20 AM   #3
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In other words, time is a created background for creation.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:41 AM   #4
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In other words, time is a created background for creation.
Right; that's exactly my understanding of it.
Allah swt first created the pen, but that was after first creating time. Isn't this the correct way to understand that Hadith?

I also ask this because I was talking to an imam and he had described something created as being beyond space and time but maybe it was just his way of saying something else.

In my original post if someone can answer my q id greatly appreciate it. Jazak Allah khair
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