[Buincchotourb]

salaam,

I want to ask that, our deeds can make Allah sad? I know well that He gets angry with, His Qahr, His Ghadhab.
i repent and ask Thouba but mostly with Mind, not with heart feelings, only if I know this that, see Allah is sad coz of me - my deeds, then for sure I'll repent with heart depths and I wont do a sin with intention lest, Allah will get upset...

Please give me some reference if possible, from Quran.

Note: plz I am new on HIS way, so I know not HIM, the ways HE feels/ response? so plz don't ignore it..

Jazakallaah.

[Buincchotourb]

Read through the various name of Allah. The answer will manifest. So attampting to understand with our experience is very limiting.
Our or any creations worship neither harms or benefit him. He is Independent and we are dependant. Allah is one, the most Sublime and the most Unique.

yes, so you mean He can't feel? so why to cry while asking forgiveness?? why to repent? just we should say Astaghfrullah and its over...

Plz brother tell me some good answer.

[Kamendoriks]

yes, so you mean He can't feel? so why to cry while asking forgiveness?? why to repent? just we should say Astaghfrullah and its over...

Plz brother tell me some good answer.

Allah the Almighty doesnt need us. But We need Him, So we cry, we repent and we beg for forgivness to our Creator.

[Buincchotourb]

Allah the Almighty doesnt need us. But We need Him, So we cry, we repent and we beg for forgivness to our Creator.

walykom assalam,

Jazakallah brother..

Ok, i would keep asking for forgiveness, like a creation...but If Quran is complete, there must be something about HIS 'sad' attitude.
May Allah guide us all to the right path -ameen.

[Z1IRo4Ap]

yes, so you mean He can't feel? so why to cry while asking forgiveness?? why to repent? just we should say Astaghfrullah and its over...

Plz brother tell me some good answer.

Allah has created us to worship him.... However, he is free of needing his creation for that.

So with that being said, Allah loves those who follow his command and hates those who disobey his command.

To assume Allah "has feelings" More than what he has mentioned concerning himself such as "Anger, love, pleasure" is something we shouldn't do, while also understanding that being "sad" in itself is a type of attribute that in itself is incomplete because it goes against the basic understanding that Allah is free from needing anything, so how can he who is free from something, feel sad when he does not get it? It's not possible, while attributes like "Happy, Pleasure, Hate" Are applicable in certain situations and do not lead to any deduction in Allahs greatness.

The tawbah you do, the crying you do is to keep YOU out of hell fire, Allah doesn't need you to be in heaven, however due to his rahmah, and is order he wants you to be in heaven. The tears that flow, the tawbah you make should be those that reflect upon your weakness of iman, and weakness of righteousness.

And Allah knows best.

[RenyBontes]

salaam,

I want to ask that, our deeds can make Allah sad? I know well that He gets angry with, His Qahr, His Ghadhab.
i repent and ask Thouba but mostly with Mind, not with heart feelings, only if I know this that, see Allah is sad coz of me - my deeds, then for sure I'll repent with heart depths and I wont do a sin with intention lest, Allah will get upset...

Please give me some reference if possible, from Quran.

Note: plz I am new on HIS way, so I know not HIM, the ways HE feels/ response? so plz don't ignore it..

Jazakallaah. Al Salaam 3alaykum,

There is no 'wronging' Allah, he can never be wronged. There is only wronging yourself (wa dhalamu anfusahum/and they wronged themselves) or your messengers. Existance is created for the sole purpose of knowledge of Allah. By knowledge here I am referring to his attributes. As we LIVE we are exposed to the manifestations of his attributes. So when you work, it is Al Razzaq/The Sustainer who bestows wealth on you, Al Shaafi3 who heals you, Al Aleem/The knower who bestows knowledge on you, Al Qaahar/The Powerful who gives you the strength/power to do things, Al MuHyee who gives you live and so on. Our job is to witness and testify that it is HIM. Shirk is to do the exact opposite, it is to associate ANYTHING (even yourself) with Allah.

Now, when we 'sin', we are essentially vieling ourselves from Allah. We choose ourself over Allah. Allah in mercy allows us to repent so as to 'rectify' that wrong. If you don't rectify it HERE you will have to pay for it in the next world as repentance after death is no longer accepted.

As for his wrath/anger etc its really a cause/effect here. Whatever you incline to in this world you will be subjugated to in the next. If you incline to kufr/shirk/sin/arrogance etc in THIS world then in the next world you will be subjugated to his 'heavy' attributes (like his anger, the punisher/avenger, The Abaser and so on) whereas if you believed in this world and avoided shirk/sin then you will Inshaa Allah incline towards his 'light' attributes like Al Raheem, Al Wudood, Al Ghafoor and so on.

[Buincchotourb]

Read through the various name of Allah. The answer will manifest. So attampting to understand with our experience is very limiting.
Our or any creations worship neither harms or benefit him. He is Independent and we are dependant. Allah is one, the most Sublime and the most Unique.

soRRy, I didn't get you at first read, but after when Al Sayf bro expanded the same logic...

SubhanAllah, jazakallah brother.

[Buincchotourb]

To assume Allah "has feelings" More than what he has mentioned concerning himself such as "Anger, love, pleasure" is something we shouldn't do, while also understanding that being "sad" in itself is a type of attribute that in itself is incomplete because it goes against the basic understanding that Allah is free from needing anything, so how can he who is free from something, feel sad when he does not get it? It's not possible,

And Allah knows best.

Great, Jazakallah.Thanks aloOt brother, Alahmdulillah yes True, Our Lord is Complete HE needs not anything, and nothing can Hurt Him.

[Buincchotourb]

Allah the Almighty doesnt need us. But We need Him, So we cry, we repent and we beg for forgivness to our Creator.

yes, True , You said in few words thats why I didn't get the logic behind..

JazakAllah

[Buincchotourb]

Allah the Almighty doesnt need us. But We need Him, So we cry, we repent and we beg for forgivness to our Creator.

yes, True , You said in few words thats why I didn't get the logic behind..

JazakAllah akhi

[Buincchotourb]

Al Salaam 3alaykum,

There is no 'wronging' Allah, he can never be wronged. There is only wronging yourself (wa dhalamu anfusahum/and they wronged themselves) or your messengers. Existance is created for the sole purpose of knowledge of Allah. By knowledge here I am referring to his attributes. As we LIVE we are exposed to the manifestations of his attributes. So when you work, it is Al Razzaq/The Sustainer who bestows wealth on you, Al Shaafi3 who heals you, Al Aleem/The knower who bestows knowledge on you, Al Qaahar/The Powerful who gives you the strength/power to do things, Al MuHyee who gives you live and so on. Our job is to witness and testify that it is HIM. Shirk is to do the exact opposite, it is to associate ANYTHING (even yourself) with Allah.

Now, when we 'sin', we are essentially vieling ourselves from Allah. We choose ourself over Allah. Allah in mercy allows us to repent so as to 'rectify' that wrong. If you don't rectify it HERE you will have to pay for it in the next world as repentance after death is no longer accepted.

As for his wrath/anger etc its really a cause/effect here. Whatever you incline to in this world you will be subjugated to in the next. If you incline to kufr/shirk/sin/arrogance etc in THIS world then in the next world you will be subjugated to his 'heavy' attributes (like his anger, the punisher/avenger, The Abaser and so on) whereas if you believed in this world and avoided shirk/sin then you will Inshaa Allah incline towards his 'light' attributes like Al Raheem, Al Wudood, Al Ghafoor and so on.

walykom assalam.
JazakAllah brother, Its really appreciated...I am very happy that you brothers are so much clued up, masha'ALLAH..May you all Hit a great success over here and there in aakhirah and finally get over HIs Raza ameen.

well, I said i am new in His way because though I am a muslim by birth but my family background is not religious that much, and I wasn't been to Practice than before This is a shame, I know but now as I want to worship Him, I can't find a teacher/scholar so who can help me out..and when I ask such things they can't explain me the way you people did, they say their own guesses, but I know that every thing goes back to Quran and Sunnah.

I recieved an E mail from some Org, they said for sure Allah can be sad like a Father, but we cant give you rerference as every idea is not their in Quran, in sence that it says Go for Huj it dont say that go via camel, plane etc, So we assume when HE gets angry that Something is upsetting HIM.

so what will you say about this?