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Old 05-18-2011, 06:43 PM   #21
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I didn't say any madhab is not based on ahadeeth, Go learn English and read what I said again.
Thank you for not returning my salam.

You said 'most based on hadith.' The question is, of what basis is this statement? If you can name a single issue in which the Hanafi position is based on no hadith whatsoever, then I will be very surprised at it; and if you cannot, then to 'rank' the madhabs based on their 'basis in hadith' is a nonsensical thing to do.
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Old 05-18-2011, 06:45 PM   #22
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My comment could be totally out of place, but I had this feeling for a long time now: It seems like there is something "cool" about being Hanbali (in Fiqh or 'Aqidah) nowadays! And especially the Hanafi madhhab has an image of being "weak and old". Doeas anyone agree?


It's a nuanced technique to cast doubt in the minds for Hanafi Fiqh, as if its usool are taken out of someone's pocket and not from the four sources of Shari'ah.
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Old 05-18-2011, 06:51 PM   #23
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Thank you for not returning my salam.

You said 'most based on hadith.' The question is, of what basis is this statement? If you can name a single issue in which the Hanafi position is based on no hadith whatsoever, then I will be very surprised at it; and if you cannot, then to 'rank' the madhabs based on their 'basis in hadith' is a nonsensical thing to do.
You're welcome.

I didn't say the madhab is not based on Hadeeth, I said the Hanbalis are closer to the hadeeth, at the same time If you want to be any madhab I don't care.
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Old 05-18-2011, 06:54 PM   #24
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You're welcome.

I didn't say the madhab is not based on Hadeeth, I said the Hanbalis are closer to the hadeeth, at the same time If you want to be any madhab I don't care.
Not returning Salam is not a very nice thing to do.

The Hanbali mad'hab is a most excellent and wonderful mad'hab, as are all the mad'habs, and if you make taqleed of the usul of Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal and the rulings therein (such as those in Ibn Qudama's works) then you are on a path which is straight; all the best, therefore, to you and yours.
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:02 PM   #25
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And especially the Hanafi madhhab has an image of being "weak and old". Doeas anyone agree?

Assalamu alaykum

To some young people this probaly is true, but this is probaly because of the elders of the community. many young people dont want to be like their elders (just pray salah and have beard). another problem is how many english lectures on hanafi fiqh are easily accessible, like free lectures in the masajids in english and not urdu.
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:30 PM   #26
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Not returning Salam is not a very nice thing to do.

The Hanbali mad'hab is a most excellent and wonderful mad'hab, as are all the mad'habs, and if you make taqleed of the usul of Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal and the rulings therein (such as those in Ibn Qudama's works) then you are on a path which is straight; all the best, therefore, to you and yours.


As we know Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal forbidden to do any taqleed.

Do not follow my opinion; neither follow the opinion of Malik, nor Shaafi'i, nor Awzaa'i, nor Thawri, but take from where they took Source

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Old 05-18-2011, 07:51 PM   #27
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As we know Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal forbidden to do any taqleed.


Source



To whom was he speaking? This is highly relevant. Was he speaking to... everybody? Everywhere? Was this comment addressed to a specific group of people? Was it addressed to a specific person? Was it addressed to the whole of the Ummah, from the rice farmer to the Khalifa?
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:03 PM   #28
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To whom was he speaking? This is highly relevant. Was he speaking to... everybody? Everywhere? Was this comment addressed to a specific group of people? Was it addressed to a specific person? Was it addressed to the whole of the Ummah, from the rice farmer to the Khalifa?


Very good questions. So his opinions were for his students, not for person who borned after 500 years after his (Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal) death. Right?

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Old 05-18-2011, 08:05 PM   #29
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Very good questions. So his opinions were for his students, not for person who borned after 500 years ater his (Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal) death. Right?



After looking through your post history, I am not interested in discussing this with you. Good day!
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:15 PM   #30
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After looking through your post history, I am not interested in discussing this with you. Good day!
Wise choice
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:17 PM   #31
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After looking through your post history, I am not interested in discussing this with you. Good day!


My post history says i don't do taqleed.
Have a nice day brother.

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Old 05-18-2011, 09:34 PM   #32
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Abu Umamah Al-Bahili (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said,

"I guarantee a house in Jannah for one who gives up Arguing, even if he is in the right;
and I guarantee a home in the middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even for the sake of fun;
and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannah for one who has good manners.''


[Abu Dawud]
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:55 PM   #33
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I think if you want to change madhab you should. What's to stop you learning the Hanbali madhab while you follow the Hanafi madhab also? If you know both madhabs that will be even better right? You can learn the Hanafi view and then learn the Hanbali view. There's nothing to say you have to stick to one madhab and not learn the rulings of other madhabs.

Some people act as if you are changing your religion when you change your madhab, they may even forbid their daughter from marrying you cos you follow another madhab and have left their madhab. Madhabs have become something that people take pride in, I.E we're the Hanafi gang, over there is the Hanbali gang, once you join our gang you can't leave it to join the other gang. Sadly some people now days have this attitude and they will more than likely think negatively of you for changing.

Not everyone is like that though as the people on this forum have demonstrated alhamdulilah, but you could encounter people like that in everyday life. They might look at you differently, like a traitor.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:30 PM   #34
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To touch upon the point I raised earlier: It seems like a culture has been created around each Madhhab. Ahnaf will throw around with sayings of Hadhrat Fulan & 'Allamah so-and-so and Hanbali brothers will just throw around random Arabic vocabs. Almost like Gimmicks.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:41 PM   #35
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to brother al ansar , I think better you learn first in detail and then change/start to practise. Dont adopt suddenly all.



Very good questions. So his opinions were for his students

No, his suggetions(like all imam suggested) are for students( not to do taqleed) but opinions are for laymen.you know in english langauge"opinion" and "suggetion" are 2 different words. opinion isnt synonym of suggetion. you are failing even to understand after doing taqleed of english translators translation, how will you understand hadith(the real which is in arabic) bro!
My post history says i don't do taqleed.
and who do taqleed of english translators without knowing the main speech of prophet(sw) i.e. in arabic? bro asfghy or rqsnnt?
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:23 AM   #36
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jazakhala khayr for all the advice. unfortunately a lot of unncessary arguments have broken out on this thread. I do not intend to switch in the short run due to the pitfalls mentioned. based on the advice of a number of brothers I think it would be very good for me to continue following the hanafi school and also learn some hanbali fiqh.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:58 AM   #37
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My comment could be totally out of place, but I had this feeling for a long time now: It seems like there is something "cool" about being Hanbali (in Fiqh or 'Aqidah) nowadays! And especially the Hanafi madhhab has an image of being "weak and old". Doeas anyone agree?


Me, I have noticed the same!
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:14 AM   #38
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My comment could be totally out of place, but I had this feeling for a long time now: It seems like there is something "cool" about being Hanbali (in Fiqh or 'Aqidah) nowadays! And especially the Hanafi madhhab has an image of being "weak and old". Doeas anyone agree?


Akhi i will add a third point to the image "Weak,old and out of fashion as it is too common"
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #39
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brother before you change i would advise you to red this book inshAllah http://azharacademy.com/Scripts/prod...?idproduct=502
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:44 PM   #40
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as Salamu alaikum,

You mentioned that you cannot speak Arabic but are you able to read and understand it ? If so, you can read Akhsar al-mukhtasarat or 'Umdat al-Talib. Both are beginner works in Hanbali fiqh, this should give you a general overview of the furu'.
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