[r7rGOhvd]

"The Taliban's version of Islamic law, or Shari'a, is historically inaccurate, contradictory, self-serving, and fundamentally deviant from prevailing interpretations of Islamic law and practice."

I believe this to be the case as most Muslims would but am having difficult finding appropriate links for my research. Could some Muslims tell me in what ways the Talibans practices have directly contradicted even Sharia law?

I have these examples listed so far:
Selling of opiates
Prostitution
using a mullah? to interpret Islamic teachings even though he has no direct bearing to the line of the prophet
homosexuality (and with boys)
barring woman from education

Has anyone here seen the film Osama by Siddiq Barmak as well?

[economex]

"The Taliban's version of Islamic law, or Shari'a, is historically inaccurate, contradictory, self-serving, and fundamentally deviant from prevailing interpretations of Islamic law and practice."

I believe this to be the case as most Muslims would but am having difficult finding appropriate links for my research. Could some Muslims tell me in what ways the Talibans practices have directly contradicted even Sharia law?

I have these examples listed so far:
Selling of opiates
Prostitution
using a mullah? to interpret Islamic teachings even though he has no direct bearing to the line of the prophet
homosexuality (and with boys)
barring woman from education

Has anyone here seen the film Osama by Siddiq Barmak as well?

why don't you just make it all up?

[r7rGOhvd]

Because I think it would be interesting to hear a muslims perspective on how the Talibans reign in Afghanistan is not very Islamic.

[paydayuscf]

why don't you just make it all up?

true....going by his first post he already has a head start. why turn back now

[r7rGOhvd]

sure i can assume the Koran has passages saying do not have sex with little boys, sell opiates,and so on but I did think a forum with Muslims would be more receptive to finding more ways to distance Islam from the terribleness that is the Taliban,no?

[paydayuscf]

"The Taliban's version of Islamic law, or Shari'a, is historically inaccurate, contradictory, self-serving, and fundamentally deviant from prevailing interpretations of Islamic law and practice."

I believe this to be the case as most Muslims would but am having difficult finding appropriate links for my research. Could some Muslims tell me in what ways the Talibans practices have directly contradicted even Sharia law?

you have already arrived at a conclusion but then go onto say that you are finding it difficult to find appropriate links for your research. so how did you come to your conclusion in the first place?

I have these examples listed so far:
Selling of opiates
Prostitution
using a mullah? to interpret Islamic teachings even though he has no direct bearing to the line of the prophet
homosexuality (and with boys)
barring woman from education

by which evidence did you come to these conclusions?

[attishina]

I think you should get another hobby.

"The Taliban's version of Islamic law, or Shari'a, is historically inaccurate, contradictory, self-serving, and fundamentally deviant from prevailing interpretations of Islamic law and practice."

I believe this to be the case as most Muslims would but am having difficult finding appropriate links for my research. Could some Muslims tell me in what ways the Talibans practices have directly contradicted even Sharia law?

I have these examples listed so far:
Selling of opiates
Prostitution
using a mullah? to interpret Islamic teachings even though he has no direct bearing to the line of the prophet
homosexuality (and with boys)
barring woman from education

Has anyone here seen the film Osama by Siddiq Barmak as well?

[r7rGOhvd]

I've read passages from the Quran prohibting these things. Am I correct to assume that both the Taliban does these things and they are considered haram by Islam? Again I am not so sure that is why I am here. The quote listed above is not my conclusion nor my own words, it is a conclusion I believe to be true and am trying to back up. Any help from passages from the Quran or just examples of how you think the Taliban in some ways contradicts Islam is very much appreciated.

[r7rGOhvd]

I think you should get another hobby.

But how did you reach that conclusion!?!?

[attishina]

You are asking for proofs that our brothers (Taliban) are not following Islamic Laws !!??
How can that be ...

I've read passages from the Quran prohibting these things. Am I correct to assume that both the Taliban does these things and they are considered haram by Islam? Again I am not so sure that is why I am here. The quote listed above is not my conclusion nor my own words, it is a conclusion I believe to be true and am trying to back up. Any help from passages from the Quran or just examples of how you think the Taliban in some ways contradicts Islam is very much appreciated.

[exiceJetLip]

I have these examples listed so far:
Selling of opiates
Prostitution
using a mullah? to interpret Islamic teachings even though he has no direct bearing to the line of the prophet
homosexuality (and with boys)
barring woman from education

What proof do you have -besides, unconfirmed media reports, of course- that these actions, which are all contrary to Islamic teachings, were perpetrated by the Taliban?

[paydayuscf]

I've read passages from the Quran prohibting these things.

please post the reference for these prohibitions.

Am I correct to assume that both the Taliban does these things and they are considered haram by Islam?

you must have some sort of evidence however flimsy it may be to accuse the taliban of anything. so please post your evidence.

Again I am not so sure that is why I am here. The quote listed above is not my conclusion nor my own words, it is a conclusion I believe to be true and am trying to back up..

whose conclusion is it?
whose words are they?
you accept something to be true without it being backed up and then you try to find evidence to back it up?

Any help from passages from the Quran or just examples of how you think the Taliban in some ways contradicts Islam is very much appreciated.

cite the contradictions first with evidence. there is no point passing judgement on a false premise.

[attishina]

I don't understand why you are accusing our brothers of such nonsense and kufr. Maybe the fact is that you watch too much television. The kafir media may have published something of this sort. Why don't you take information from Umar Studio? As far as homosexuality is concerned, this has to be the worse of accusations which you've mentioned. I find it strange that you did not list your sources of information. Otherwise, words have no value. May Allah guide us all.

But how did you reach that conclusion!?!?

[paydayuscf]

ok misguided wanderer on the path of knowledge.........

official sources cite that women under the taliban were forced to stay in their homes and not allowed leave as if they were almost under house arrest. (Marsden, Peter. (1998). The Taliban: War, religion and the new order in Afghanistan. London: Zed Books Ltd,)

do you know about that? would you like to discuss that?

[FsQGF1Mp]

The things you have mentioned are poutlawed in islam without shadow of doubt. however, what proof do you have that the taliban were in volved in these things? rather these are the things that afghanis were involved in that taliban put to a stop and have now once again come into practice.

you say, "I believe this to be the case" this is a claim without proof. i think you need to prove your points rather than be asking for proof.

[r7rGOhvd]

ok, its debatable whether or not the taleban engaged in pedophile or homosexual practices, but its well known that the taleban closed to women's schools and wouldnt let them leave school. surely, this is against mainstream islam, or is that what the religion teaches.

also, i tried to cite links but it says they need to be moderated

[paydayuscf]

ok, its debatable whether or not the taleban engaged in pedophile or homosexual practices,

if you carry on like this then no one is going to take you seriously. how can you say it is debatable when you have not offered even one tangible piece of evidence to support your accusation?

but its well known that the taleban closed to women's schools and wouldnt let them leave school. surely, this is against mainstream islam, or is that what the religion teaches.

if it is well known then there must be evidence to support this. present it please.

also, i tried to cite links but it says they need to be moderated

leave out the .com extension to bypass this.

[huylibizonoff]

Hello,

using a mullah? to interpret Islamic teachings even though he has no direct bearing to the line of the prophet As far as I understand a Mullah is a translation for scholar. If he is a scholar he is an inheritor of the Prophet (pbuh). Family lineage has no bearing on whether or not someone can comment or enforce Islamic Law.
homosexuality (and with boys) This is false.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ys-afghanistan
It was an ancient tradition banned by the Taliban but now it's back: Ghaith Abdul-Ahad reports from northern Afghanistan on the hiring out of young male dancers by older men

...

As more vodka was drunk, the party grew louder. Its host - a former Taliban commander now in alliance with the Afghan government and Americans - chatted jovially to his guests, mainly local farmers and shopkeepers. Then one of the men produced a sitar and a dancer entered the room.

barring woman from education This is also false.
"Now you've asked me about the rights of women's education and the rights of women's work. Unlike what is said here, women do work in Afghanistan. You're right that until 1997 I mean, in 1996 when we captured the capitol Kabul, we did ask women to stay home. It didn't mean that we wanted them to stay at home forever, but nobody listened to us. We said that there is no law, and there is no order, and have to stay at home. They were raped before us, everyday. So, after we disarmed the people, and after we brought law and order, and now women are working. You are right that women are not working in the ministry of defense, like here. We don't want our women to be fighter pilot[s], or to be used as objects of decoration for advertisements. But they do work. They work in the Ministry of Health, Interior, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Social Affairs, and so on. So, and we don't have any problem with women's education. We have said that we want education, and we will have education whether or not we are under anybody's pressure, because that is part of our belief. We are ordered to do that. When we say that there should be segregated schools, it does not mean that we don t want our women to be educated. It is true that we are against co-education; but it is not true that we are against women's education. We do have schools even now, but the problem is the resources"---Quoted from Sayyid Rahmatullah Hashemi , who was roaming Ambassador to the Taliban

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post148634

[r7rGOhvd]

http://feminist.org/afghan/facts.html

what do you think about this

[paydayuscf]

http://feminist.org/afghan/facts.html

what do you think about this

i think it is absolute rubbish.

i lived in afghanistan and i saw many women on the streets. some begging. some working. i saw girls going to school each morning and returning in the evening.

the text in the link accuses the taliban of not allowing women to go out of their homes, but the pics at the beginning of the page clearly show women being out of their homes without any male family members! open your eyes. wake up.