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Old 08-01-2010, 10:02 PM   #1
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Default The Meaning of Abyad (White) To the Arabs
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Listening to this tape from (1 hour 48 minutes 48 seconds) to (1 hour 51 minutes 10 seconds), you will find that someone inquired about a dream he saw of the Prophet (PBUH) and the Prophet (PBUH) was brown (asmar) in his dream.The sheikh who was answering the questions replied by saying that the man he saw couldn’t have been the Prophet (PBUH). I wonder if this sheikh has ever heard about these Hadiths:

Yaqoub ibn Sufyan said: Amr ibn al-Awn and Said ibn Mansur told me: Khalid bin Abdullah narrated that Hamid Attawil told us that Anas ibn Maalik said:

"The Messenger of Allah was brown (asmar)".

Thus narrated this Hadith al-Hafez Abu Bakr al-Bazzar on the authority of Ali on the authority of Khalid Ibn Abdullah on the authority of Humaid on the authority of Anas. Also, Mohammed bin Muthanna related: Abdel Wahab narrated that Humaid reported that Anas said:

"The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) wasn’t tall nor short, and when he walked, he leaned forward, and he was brown (asmar)".

Then Bazzaar said: We do not know of anyone relating it from Humaid except Khaled and Abdul Wahab.

Then Al-Bayhaqi (blessings of Allah be upon him) said: Abu Husayn ibn Bashraan told us that Abu Jaafar Bazzaar related that Yahya ibn Jaafar related that Ali ibn Asim related that Humaid - making reference to the Hadith about the description of the prophet - said: "He was “white/abyad*”, his “whiteness/bayad*” inclined to brown (asmar)".

It is related by 'Auf that Yazid Al Farsi said :

"I saw the Prophet in a dream during the time of Ibn Abbas (Yazid used to write the Koran) and I said to Ibn Abbas that I saw the Messenger of Allah in my sleep. Ibn Abbas said that the Prophet used to say that the Shaitan cannot imitate me, and whoever saw me in his sleep, then he has really seen me, so can you describe to us the man you saw. He said: yes, I saw a man between the two men, his body and flesh were brown (asmar) close to “whiteness/bayad*”, he had a nice smile, black eyes, a beautifully shaped face, his beard filled from here to here until it almost filled the upper portion of his chest. 'Auf then said: I don't know what was with that part of the description. Then ibn Abbas said: If you were to see him awake, you couldn't describe him any better than that".

All of these Hadiths confirm that the Prophet was brown (asmar). Why is this fact being overlooked and concealed when it should be spread and taught to the people. Especially since it concerns our dear Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

*NOTE:
“Whiteness/Al-Bayad” in the speech of the Arabs is a wheatish color marked by darkness. – as Al Hafid Al-Dhahabi said.

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Old 08-01-2010, 10:08 PM   #2
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sorry to be blunt but making massive fonts like that is just stupid. it makes it more difficult to read.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:16 PM   #3
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sorry to be blunt but making massive fonts like that is just stupid. it makes it more difficult to read.
Stupid??? Wouldn't you say that's a bad choice of words? Especially from Muslim to Muslim.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:34 PM   #4
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TO OP:

Some find it uncomfortable that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و اله وسلم ) was "asmar", as if he wasn't an Arab...others will accuse you of "asabiyya" if you point out how dark skinned many hashimis were, this is present even more amongst darker skinned Muslims who from my experience have a mythical image of the Prophet seeing him as the Christians see Jesus son of Mary, ie as a white skinned man.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:40 PM   #5
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TO OP:

Some find it uncomfortable that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و اله وسلم ) was "asmar", as if he wasn't an Arab...others will accuse you of "asabiyya" if you point out how dark skinned many hashimis were, this is present even more amongst darker skinned Muslims who from my experience have a mythical image of the Prophet seeing him as the Christians see Jesus son of Mary, ie as a white skinned man.
You are right. Many are VERY uncomfortable with this description of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم ).
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:50 PM   #6
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Stupid??? Wouldn't you say that's a bad choice of words? Especially from Muslim to Muslim.
why is it a bad choice of word?

it is stupid so i said it is stupid. if it was anything else then i would have said that it was that thing.

just stick to the default font size. making it bigger does not emphasise it more in anyway. it just makes it harder to read........and makes it look stupid.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:52 PM   #7
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You are right. Many are VERY uncomfortable with this description of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم ).
now this is much better. well done. i am proud of you.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:56 PM   #8
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why is it a bad choice of word?

it is stupid so i said it is stupid. if it was anything else then i would have said that it was that thing.

just stick to the default font size. making it bigger does not emphasise it more in anyway. it just makes it harder to read........and makes it look stupid.

How old are you???
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:37 AM   #9
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How old are you???
mashallah, nearly there. just dont make it bold next time and your onto a winner!
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:45 AM   #10
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all very amusing.

@ Tee- haven't you posted all this before in two other threads? Why continuously bring up the same thing. No matter what colour Rasulullah was, we would still follow him, khallas, so what's the point of bringing up colour?
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