[DINAKuncher]

....from defending the hanafi fiqh in front of a learned ahle hadith scholar that came to my home today, the discussion somehow went to Allama Sarfraz khan Safdar (the scholar told me he was a sheikh ul hadith of the hanafi deobandi group)...I have also read something about him on this forum as well as some material that was sent to me by bhai Saad of this forum....anyways the real point was about his sons supporting ghamidi and his magazine al-ishraaq....can anyone please tell me are his sons on their father's footsteps and is the allegation true??

[DINAKuncher]

bump..

[rJohutozsfds]

yes brother, not Hazrat's sons but his grandson Amaar bin Zahid Al Rashidi is a follower of Javed Ahmad Ghamidi?

[UTHZzJ6f]

There is another Deobandi Mufti , Faisal Khurshid, who claims to have studied in Dar Ul Uloom Karachi , coverted to "Ghamidism". He defends many of Ghamidi's individual positions. I think the Ulema should take a notice of it as more and more people are getting attracted to Mr.Ghamidi these days.Mainly , Ghamidi is known as a "Munkar i Hadith" but i think that will not solve the issue as he is completely a different entity from Ghulam Ahmed Parvez. GAP was a continuation of the naturalistic and deistic thought of Sir Syed Ahmed khan while Ghamidi is the continuation of the modernist and assertive thought of Hameed Ud din Farahi and Ameen Ahsan Islahi with a slight blend of Maududi's impact on Ameen Ahsan and Ghamidi.This specific thought has gone almost unnoticed and un-refuted scholastically.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFRZtAX3PEE

[ChebuRAtoR]

Ghamdi has been refuted and very strict notice was taken of Ammar by his uncle i think Maulana AbdulQuddus Qaran sb dbh in one of his writings in Alsharia..

[Adiamant]

Wow, how could someone like this graduate from Darul 'Uloom Korangi?

EDIT: Here he goes again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi6tf_64W8U

I pray Maulana Ilyas Ghuman [hafidhahullah] bumps into him.

[JaK_MarkoV_Pi]

Wow, how could someone like this graduate from Darul 'Uloom Korangi?

EDIT: Here he goes again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi6tf_64W8U

I pray Maulana Ilyas Ghuman [hafidhahullah] bumps into him.

I actually met him in Karachi. He was giving all sorts of reasons for defending Javed Ahmad Ghamdi...

[AutocadOemM]

That Faisal guy is learned anddeviant.

He even went to afganistan a few times on qitaal

[exschke]

Why would it be amazing that the grandson of a great Deobandi `Alim would fall into deviance? Didn't Imam Abu Hanifa's grandson become a Mu`tazili?

Or what about the Sahaba that apostated even?

[ChebuRAtoR]

Zallu fazallu..!!

[Adiamant]

Or what about the Sahaba that apostated even?

I know what you mean. (These few drop outs get always too much attention. Look at all the sons and grandsons who are doing great work of Deen and all the other DU Karachi graduates that go unnoticed, but doing great work.) But your question makes no sense, because those men that apostated are by definition not even called Sahabah.

[exschke]

I know what you mean. (These few drop outs get always too much attention. Look at all the sons and grandsons who are doing great work of Deen and all the other DU Karachi graduates that go unnoticed, but doing great work.) But your question makes no sense, because those men that apostated are by definition not even called Sahabah.

I understand that the question is awkwardly stated. Basically (and I'm pretty sure you already got this point), I meant that there were people who converted to Islam during the life of Rasulullah , and even met him, who later apostatized.