[WUlcN1Rz]

Salaam dear brothers and sisters, i came across a very interesting hadeeth in one of Shayk g.f haddad's articles at livingislam.org which reads:


Jabir said, Allah be well-pleased with him: I heard the Messenger of Allah say, upon him blessings and peace: “I entered Paradise and saw that most of its dwellers were women.”

Narrated by al-Bayhaqi in al-Ba`th wal-Nushur and Ibn `Asakir in Tarikh Dimashq.

Does anyone now the status [ authenticity ] of this hadeeth. Also it would be great if some could give me the exact reference for this hadeeth [ hadith nr. , volume nr. , page nr etc. if possible ]. I would be very thankfull if someone could give me the exact reference [ and if possible the hadith status ] .

ma salama

[WapSaibiar]

Bump.

I hope someone has the time to answer this honest question of a brother.

[ZonaPutaX]

Jabir said, Allah be well-pleased with him: I heard the Messenger of Allah say, upon him blessings and peace: “I entered Paradise and saw that most of its dwellers were women.”

Narrated by al-Bayhaqi in al-Ba`th wal-Nushur and Ibn `Asakir in Tarikh Dimashq. First of all, we don't know reference of above hadith.

Honestly to say, above hadith is totally conflicting with following Authentic hadiths.

Bukhari : Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28:
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you."


Bukhari : Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."


Muslim: Book 1, Number 0142:
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Umar that the Messenger of Allah observed: O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell ? Upon this the Holy Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense, and you spend some nights (and days) in which you do not offer prayer and in the month of Ramadan (during the days) you do not observe fast, that is a failing in religion. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Abu Tahir with this chain of transmitters.

[WapSaibiar]

That hadith is cited to actually give balance to that hadith. I don't know how a sane Muslim can believe women will be less than men in Heaven just because the other hadith says there are more women in Hell.

From other authentic hadith and tafsir it's clearly stated all the men of Paradise will have multiple wives. This is an indirect guarantee that most of the residents of Heaven will be women. I found this hadith which stated it more directly, and confirmed what we already know, so I was asking if anyone had any other information about its rating.

[ZonaPutaX]

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From other authentic hadith and tafsir it's clearly stated all the men of Paradise will have multiple wives. This is an indirect guarantee that most of the residents of Heaven will be women. I found this hadith which stated it more directly, and confirmed what we already know, so I was asking if anyone had any other information about its rating.

Women from where? Earth (Human) or houris?

Following hadith showing Woman from houris

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "The first batch (of people) who will enter Paradise will be (glittering) like the full moon, and the batch next to them will be (glittering) like the most brilliant star in the sky. Their hearts will be as if the heart of a single man, for they will have neither enmity nor jealousy amongst themselves; everyone will have two wives from the houris, (who will be so beautiful, pure and transparent that) the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh." (Bukhari: Book #54, Hadith #476)

[Licacivelip]

Brother rqsnnt, this is what sheikh GF Haddad says regarding those hadiths which you have quoted, their context and meaning:

Comment: The problem here is not authenticity but meaning. Even the plainest statement can become completely incoherent on the tongue of a retarded person or a pathological liar. The hadith here uses two figures of speech: the first is hyperbole (mubalagha) meaning exaggeration in the words “even a prudent, sensible man might be led astray by some of you” i.e. a fortiori an ordinary man. The second figure is synechdoche (majaz mursal) consisting in using the whole for the part: intelligence to mean the specific legal testimony of a woman, and religion to mean the prayer and fast at the time of menses.
Numerous verses and other narrations stress that the reward of women equals that of men even if their acts differ. So this particular narration is not meant literally but as an acknowledgment of the power women wield over men while ostensibly less active in the public and spiritual spheres.

However, the real import of the hadith - spoken at the Farewell Pilgrimage - and its actual context was that the Prophet challenged the women that were present to realize that unless they helped raise money with their gold and jewelry, they would miss the reward of men waging jihad as well as show ingratitude.

In the full version of the hadith the Prophet also orders the women to ask forgiveness and desist from frequently cursing their husbands. All this was spoken at a time of
(1) the impending departure of the latter on jihad
(2) the impending departure of the Prophet from this world and
(3) the fact that “Cursing the believer is like killing him.”

But the Prophet was also being playful in his use of strong terms to impress this teaching on the listeners. Ruqayyah Waris Maqsud writes, “After the Farewell Pilgrimage at the Eid prayer, the Prophet walked past the men leaning on Bilal's arm, and came to the rows of women behind them. Bilal spread out a cloth and the Prophet urged the women to be generous with their gifts of charity, for when he had been allowed a glimpse into the flames of Hell, he had noted that most of the people being tormented there were women.

The women were outraged, and one of them instantly stood up boldly and demanded to know why that was so.
'Because,' he replied, 'you women grumble so much, and show ingratitude to your husbands! Even if the poor fellows spent all their lives doing good things for you, you have only to be upset at the least thing and you will say, 'I have never received any good from you!' (Bukhari 1.28, recorded by Ibn Abbas - who was present on that occasion as a child).
At that the women began vigorously to pull off their rings and ear-rings, and throw them into Bilal's cloth.” I would like to ask a resident scholar to tell me if this is an accurate analysis, if any of you reading this can!

[lovespellszz]

Women from where? Earth (Human) or houris?

Following hadith showing Woman from houris

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "The first batch (of people) who will enter Paradise will be (glittering) like the full moon, and the batch next to them will be (glittering) like the most brilliant star in the sky. Their hearts will be as if the heart of a single man, for they will have neither enmity nor jealousy amongst themselves; everyone will have two wives from the houris, (who will be so beautiful, pure and transparent that) the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh." (Bukhari: Book #54, Hadith #476)

wait wait, everyone will have two wives from the houris? is that like two minimum or two maximum? please give the commentary of this hadith.

[JetePlentuara]

In some of the narrations of that hadith it does not mention 2 wives from the houris it just mentions 2 wives

there was a fatwa by Mufti Ibraheem Desai which seems to be missing from the website now but he said... every man will have 2 wives from the world

wallahu alam

[ZonaPutaX]

wait wait, everyone will have two wives from the houris? is that like two minimum or two maximum? please give the commentary of this hadith.

How Many Wives Will The Believers Have In Paradise?

Wa `alaykum as-Salam wa rahmatullah:

The stronger hadiths indicate that the Believers shall have two wives, in Bukhari and Muslim from Abu Hurayra, from the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace: “Each man among them shall have two wives, the marrow of each of the two wives' shanks will be seen glimmering under the flesh, and there is not in all Paradise a single unmarried man.” They will have up to a hundred concubines in Paradise while the Shuhada’ shall have seventy-two wives, numbers indicating abundance rather than an exact quantity, and Allah knows best.

Source

[JetePlentuara]

Muhammad reported that some (persons) stated with a sense of pride and some discussed whether there would be more men in Paradise or more women. It was upon this that Abu Huraira reported that Abu'l Qasim (the Holy Prophet) (may peace be upon him) said: The (members) of the first group to get into Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night, and the next to this group would have their faces as bright as the shining stars in the sky, and every person would have two wives and the marrow of their shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife in Paradise.

(sahih Muslim)

[ZonaPutaX]

wait wait, everyone will have two wives from the houris? is that like two minimum or two maximum? please give the commentary of this hadith.

How many u expected?

If u hear waz mahfil in my country u may hear 100 or 1000. I don't know from where they got these reference?

[AndrewBoss]

That means Muslim women on earth outnumbers Muslim men by at least 2 times.

[AndrewBoss]

Honestly to say, above hadith is totally conflicting with following Authentic hadiths.

What if Allah created women a lot more in numbers than men, in which it makes it possible that the dwellers of both Jannah and Jahannam are dominated by women?

[WapSaibiar]

Verdana, yes, that is the same conclusion I reached. Also there are other hadith indicating that near the Day of Judgment, women would outnumber men 50 to 1 (this might be using a figure of speech and not an exact number, but you get the idea). And yet more hadith which say most of humanity on the Day of Judgment will be from Yajuj Majuj near the Day of Judgment so 999 out of every 1000 would go to Hell.

So there are more women in both Heaven and Hell.

[Old-old-Ivy]

This fatwa generally explains this topic,

http://www.defending-islam.com/page231.html

[petrarkaponye]

This fatwa generally explains this topic,

http://www.defending-islam.com/page231.html

A knowledgeable answer.

GF Haddad is not an authentic representation of Islam, His arrogance however leads him to think he is an authority on Islam. To this end he never ceases to insult name call and derisively abuse anyone who disagrees with his views. . Like the great scholar and Muhadith Mufti Taqi Usmani. Haddad took it personally when Mufti Taqi Usmani questioned the validity of the milad. Just read his childish musings here:
http://www.livingislam.org/n/tufm_e.html

He is guided by and follows Nazam Haqqani- an outrageous individual who holds extreme views that are more in line with Shias like his belief and sworn testimony that he met Imam Mahdi in a cave in the 1960’s outside Madinah and this is where the Imam is hiding (presumably growing old gracefully).

GF Haddad is one of the “reformers” of islam-reformer in that he is attempting to remould Islam so that as an ex-Catholic, he can feel comfortable calling upon and worshipping dead saints.


The reason why women outnumber men in the last days is actually because most of them end up getting slaughtered because of wars, and fighting between muslims:

Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 9, Book 88, Number 185:
Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet said, "Near the establishment of the Hour there will be days during which (religious) knowledge will be taken away (vanish) and general ignorance will spread, and there will be Al-Harj in abundance, and Al-Harj means killing."

Qataadah reported that Anas ibn Maalik .4 said, "Shall I not relate
to you a Hadeeth I heard from the Messenger of Allah a which none
will relate to you after me? I heard him say that, 'from the signs of
the Hour is the raising (or taking) of knowledge; ignorance will
spread, fornication will become rampant, alcohol will be imbibed,
men will perish, and women will remain, until there remains one
male guardian for every 50 women.— (Ibn Maajah)

Anas said, "We used to relate that the Hour will not arrive until
the sky stops giving rain, until the earth (its crops) does not grow,
until for every 50 women, there will be a single guardian, and until a
woman passes by a man, who looks at her and says, 'this woman
used to have a man."' (Ahmad)


And the following is a Hadeeth which Anas ibn Maalik imputed to
the Prophet a "The Hour will not arrive until knowledge is raised,
ignorance is widespread, men are few, women are many, and until
for every 50 women, there will be a single man who will be their
guardian." (Ahmad)

[Phassetus]

A knowledgeable answer.

GF Haddad is not an authentic representation of Islam, His arrogance however leads him to think he is an authority on Islam. To this end he never ceases to insult name call and derisively abuse anyone who disagrees with his views. . Like the great scholar and Muhadith Mufti Taqi Usmani. Haddad took it personally when Mufti Taqi Usmani questioned the validity of the milad. Just read his childish musings here:
http://www.livingislam.org/n/tufm_e.html
...

wow, i have known that GF Haddad had an article about Mufti Taqi's fatwa, but hadnt read it before. I just read it now for the first time and I am seriously baffled by his method. It seems he purposefully blows everything out of context. The acxtual refutation is so pathetic I'm sure his own followers would notice it's weekness. I seriously didnt consider GF Haddad to be like this too.

[geka]

this is the best stuff

[geka]

good stuff