[freddyujnf]

aslam o alikum
is it importent to do 6 point i m not able to speak it up coz i dnt have speaking guts and i get hasitated or i feel like i m over-reacting and my teachers and my mother they force me to do 6 points bt m not able to do it.....and i believe in action not in speech any help regarding this issue...??

[Hoijdxvh]

aslam o alikum
is it importent to do 6 point i m not able to speak it up coz i dnt have speaking guts and i get hasitated or i feel like i m over-reacting and my teachers and my mother they force me to do 6 points bt m not able to do it.....and i believe in action not in speech any help regarding this issue...??

Dear Sister, Assalaamoalaikum,

If you do not mention the 6 points, how can we help you?

Brotherly yours
farook

[freddyujnf]

Dear Sister, Assalaamoalaikum,

If you do not mention the 6 points, how can we help you?

Brotherly yours
farook

walikum asalm
brother i didnt get u.....at the time of speaking i m blank even icant express my feeling to som1 (if u r talking abt it) i read and forget and if i remember i just tell my mother tht today i learn this and plz tell this tp others ..........hope u understnd wt m saying...

[sarasmid]

Learn how to give lectures, practice it and over time when you give them you'll master them Inshaa'Allah.

During these times keep on increasing 'ilm.

[freddyujnf]

how brother????????????

[sarasmid]

I think sister Sudoku and others might give better advices on improving lectures and things related to that. Although I will post what I can tommorow please.

By the way, you are referring to 6 points lecture during Masturat jamaat right ?

[shiciapsisy]

salaamalaikum wrtwb

im probably the worst person to give advice... but i have been told by my teachers that one should prepare well what he or she is to speak about and most importantly have trust in Allah(swt) that you will do well.... that is the biggest thing because we get so nervous in front of others and start to "stutter" etc....
it is easy to say but hard to implement as with all things.

lastly also be confident in what you know, if you are not confident that means you may need to study the topic a bit more....

May Allah give us all the ability to clearly convey our ideas and knowledge to others.

ws

[petrarkaponye]

aslam o alikum
is it importent to do 6 point i m not able to speak it up coz i dnt have speaking guts and i get hasitated or i feel like i m over-reacting and my teachers and my mother they force me to do 6 points bt m not able to do it.....and i believe in action not in speech any help regarding this issue...??

actions DO speak louder than words.

Remember sincerity. Let your dawah be ibadah and expect a reward from Allah

Everyone feels self conscious to a degree, dont focus on your bodys discomfort and look at a few friendly faces in the gathering. Remember that as you are speaking about Allah in this gathering He is mentioning you in a better gathering at the same time.

[Sanremogirl]

Assalamu alaykum

aslam o alikum
is it importent to do 6 point i m not able to speak it up coz i dnt have speaking guts and i get hasitated or i feel like i m over-reacting and my teachers and my mother they force me to do 6 points bt m not able to do it.....and i believe in action not in speech any help regarding this issue...??

Sister
Assalamu alaykum
TJ is the best forum to learn giving lectures.

Just think the ahadeeth or the stories which impressed you to understand the point (sifat). Read those ahadeeth a few times. Then you start telling those ahadeeth one by one. You are done.

Munthakab ahadeeth is best for this.

[Hoijdxvh]

walikum asalm
brother i didnt get u.....at the time of speaking i m blank even icant express my feeling to som1 (if u r talking abt it) i read and forget and if i remember i just tell my mother tht today i learn this and plz tell this tp others ..........hope u understnd wt m saying...

Dear Sister, Assalaamoalaikum

If I understand you correctly, (because what I understand by your words above is completely different from what our other brothers seem to understand), then I believe that medical advice needs to be sought. It seems to me that there is a memory problem.

Over and above this, du'a to Allah(SWT) to alleviate this problem is of course necessary.

Hope, Insh'Allah, things improve for you.

Please excuse me if I have totally misunderstood what you have been trying to say.

Brotherly yours
farook

[jackie Obrian]

Salam sister,

I am not sure , but seems like may be similar to myself long time ago before I get married and still young, teenager girl. I learn 6 points when I first went out with jamaat at the age of 11+. At the time, it's easy to learn and memorize. As it was weekly taaklim in my mum house and we always had muzakarah of 6 points, I am always try to sit far on the left hand side of the the person who in charge of muzakarah, with the hope when the time come for me to speak, we run out of time. Usually if I have to do it, when my mother was there, I was always look at her to help me out. Although I know everything about 6 points but when the time come for me to speak it, I gone blank. I was young and talented..he..he.. at the time.

it wasn't actually memory problem. It's just a nervous system, relying on mother to help, less confident and I had to say, when we not married yet, we cannot really see the 6 points much in reality. other words, the reality of 6 points don't hit us yet. This is why it say, when we marriage it's like we complete half of our imaan. Gradually when I go in jamaat, than without my mum. Nobody to help me, I had to push myself to concentrate. My confident slowly slowly build up. And by talking about 6 point in muzakarah in the program again and again, Alhamdulillah I be able to talk , my memory not actually bad after all.

When our name has been put in the program to talk about 6 point, than we have to although a little bit. So, I build my confident from there as well. And the amazing about talking although not be able to act in it properly, is like the advertisement.

If we look at the advertisement, we never actually memorize the face of mc D logo or KFC logo. But, if someone told us that draw a KFC man logo or I kill you, I bet we can draw, not exactly same, but, at least we will notice similarity somewhere somehow. We never learn how to draw it, we never practise it, we never actually want to memorize it, but because we see it again and again, although a bit, it will come to our mind. Similar with advertisement in tv, nursery rhyme and things like that. things that we say and see again and again. This is using senses Allah give to us to gain something.

This is what happen in muzakarah of 6 points when we go in tabligh or when we learn 6 point. it's harder to get it and to talk about it, if we don't learn to memorize the basic 6 points and believ me , it's more harder to actually act upon it. Talking and say it again and again will help especially the first point, kalimah Iman. Only by talking again and again about the greatness of Allah, than the greatness of Allah will come into our mind and heart. We cannot act upon it by only knowing it and not talking about it. It's simply yet difficult if we don't talk about it. And it's more difficult to deliver it into action.

I had spend years and years listening and talking about 6 points, probably nearly 15 years, before I'm not fully confident with it, but Alhamdulillah understand the meaning of it and manage to at last bring the only greatness in this world, the Greatness of Allah. Because it's easy to learn but not easy to act.But, by keeping quiet because we had less confident and hesitate to talk about it, will just make it difficult to naturally act upon it. Because iman is not an action that we can do, iman is something that has to come from inside, mind and heart. And this can be done by feeding our soul with it. By talking about it again and again.

My advise, what you been facing seems to me normal for some people. Of course not everybody face the same situation. Some have confident in it although they don't have the confident in the action. But, it's help to bring the theory into action.

So, just take the basic of 6 points. The meaning, the benefit, and how we can bring this 6 points into our daily life. Don't have to talk too much about it. Just get the point across. Always remember we talk about 6 points to teach ourself most and foremost in simple way for us ourself to understand. Than when the time come, we will talk about 6 points and time is never enough. Insya Allah.

Hope this help.

[Jimambol]

6 qualities of the sahabas talk is easy if it is kept simple and to the point in the same manner of speech as the Prophet . there is no need to make it sound like an epic speech. the purpose of 6 qualities is not to be able to talk about it but more about bringing it into ones life. Moulana Ilyas (ra) once remarked that 'many people think they are doing the effort but are really not doing the effort. the effort is to bring the 6 qualities into ones life.' concentrate on that more.

[freddyujnf]

Salam sister,

I am not sure , but seems like may be similar to myself long time ago before I get married and still young, teenager girl. I learn 6 points when I first went out with jamaat at the age of 11+. At the time, it's easy to learn and memorize. As it was weekly taaklim in my mum house and we always had muzakarah of 6 points, I am always try to sit far on the left hand side of the the person who in charge of muzakarah, with the hope when the time come for me to speak, we run out of time. Usually if I have to do it, when my mother was there, I was always look at her to help me out. Although I know everything about 6 points but when the time come for me to speak it, I gone blank. I was young and talented..he..he.. at the time.

it wasn't actually memory problem. It's just a nervous system, relying on mother to help, less confident and I had to say, when we not married yet, we cannot really see the 6 points much in reality. other words, the reality of 6 points don't hit us yet. This is why it say, when we marriage it's like we complete half of our imaan. Gradually when I go in jamaat, than without my mum. Nobody to help me, I had to push myself to concentrate. My confident slowly slowly build up. And by talking about 6 point in muzakarah in the program again and again, Alhamdulillah I be able to talk , my memory not actually bad after all.

When our name has been put in the program to talk about 6 point, than we have to although a little bit. So, I build my confident from there as well. And the amazing about talking although not be able to act in it properly, is like the advertisement.

If we look at the advertisement, we never actually memorize the face of mc D logo or KFC logo. But, if someone told us that draw a KFC man logo or I kill you, I bet we can draw, not exactly same, but, at least we will notice similarity somewhere somehow. We never learn how to draw it, we never practise it, we never actually want to memorize it, but because we see it again and again, although a bit, it will come to our mind. Similar with advertisement in tv, nursery rhyme and things like that. things that we say and see again and again. This is using senses Allah give to us to gain something.

This is what happen in muzakarah of 6 points when we go in tabligh or when we learn 6 point. it's harder to get it and to talk about it, if we don't learn to memorize the basic 6 points and believ me , it's more harder to actually act upon it. Talking and say it again and again will help especially the first point, kalimah Iman. Only by talking again and again about the greatness of Allah, than the greatness of Allah will come into our mind and heart. We cannot act upon it by only knowing it and not talking about it. It's simply yet difficult if we don't talk about it. And it's more difficult to deliver it into action.

I had spend years and years listening and talking about 6 points, probably nearly 15 years, before I'm not fully confident with it, but Alhamdulillah understand the meaning of it and manage to at last bring the only greatness in this world, the Greatness of Allah. Because it's easy to learn but not easy to act.But, by keeping quiet because we had less confident and hesitate to talk about it, will just make it difficult to naturally act upon it. Because iman is not an action that we can do, iman is something that has to come from inside, mind and heart. And this can be done by feeding our soul with it. By talking about it again and again.

My advise, what you been facing seems to me normal for some people. Of course not everybody face the same situation. Some have confident in it although they don't have the confident in the action. But, it's help to bring the theory into action.

So, just take the basic of 6 points. The meaning, the benefit, and how we can bring this 6 points into our daily life. Don't have to talk too much about it. Just get the point across. Always remember we talk about 6 points to teach ourself most and foremost in simple way for us ourself to understand. Than when the time come, we will talk about 6 points and time is never enough. Insya Allah.

Hope this help.

aslam o alikum sis,
thts wt my broblem is and mashaALLAH u kno six points frm the age of 11+ m like 19 n dnt kno anything
i hv both problems:
1-lack of condfident
2-memory problem
i remember whn 1 of my frnd in school asked me abt story of a movie or dramma tht she missed i told her the whole story without hasitation ........thn y with 1 six points

[freddyujnf]

Dear Sister, Assalaamoalaikum

If I understand you correctly, (because what I understand by your words above is completely different from what our other brothers seem to understand), then I believe that medical advice needs to be sought. It seems to me that there is a memory problem.

Over and above this, du'a to Allah(SWT) to alleviate this problem is of course necessary.

Hope, Insh'Allah, things improve for you.

Please excuse me if I have totally misunderstood what you have been trying to say.

Brotherly yours
farook

brother i hv both problems my teacher is always upset with me regarding my memory problem

[Verriasana]

I remember the first time I said 6 points I was like 12 and had no idea at the time what it meant.I just parroted it from the sisters who taught me and read off the paper I was given.It was embarrassing for me back then cos I was in the UK in Jamaat at the time and they had many old workers listening to me and the gatherings were huge mashaAllah.

Not everyone can speak like that in public it takes time to build up the courage and with me going out in jamaat at a young age was helpful....today alhumdulillah saying 6 points have gone from parroting to understanding what I'm saying and trying to implement it all in my life inshaAllah.

I don't think you should be forced to say it from memory,maybe you can write what you want to say on a paper and try saying it loud before you have to actually say it to others.Keep the paper with you so you can look into it if you forget anything.I know many sisters who been reading the 6 points off of a paper for years as they don't have the courage to say it from memory.

Just remember giving dawah to others towards the 6 points should be done in a simple way and you could say it in your own words it'll have a better effect on others.I see many people memorizing and their just saying without no clue as to what their really saying( i was like that) .

It's not that difficult sister....continue reading up the virtues pertaining to each point,the importance of each point and how to implement them into our own lives and inshaAllah it'll be easy for you to explain it to others.

Also we always hear from the elders to make a habit of including the 6 points in our daily taaleem at home,by doing so inshaAllah we'll get use to hearing about it and saying it .

May Allah make it easy for you and all of us inshaAllah aameen .

[Kragh]

Just thought I'd post the link where Moulana Yunus Patel saheb gives his account of his telling 6 points for the first time. Listen to this, you'll truly enjoy . http://yunuspatel.net/Audio/2008/inf...30-08-2008.mp3

For memory, after each Fardh salaah, put your right hand on your forehead and say "Ya Qawiyyu" 11 times. Also before you have to give the six points, or anytime for that manner, read the du'aa

"Rabbish Shrahli Sadri wa Yassir Lee Amree Wah lul 'Uqdatam Mil Lisaani Wafqahu Qawli".

This is the du'aa Moosa Alayhis Salaam recited, because he too had problems in speech, he stuttered if I am not mistaken.

Don't feel so down about it, there are loads of people who can't speak in public properly. All people are different. Even myself, I shy away from reading in public, let alone saying something from memory! Just keep practicing and make du'aa and you will become better.

[lovespellszz]

Any of the Nizamuddin Buzrughs or ulama mashaikh going to be in the audiance? If not then this is like shooting sitting ducks. Shake the audiance.

[freddyujnf]

Any of the Nizamuddin Buzrughs or ulama mashaikh going to be in the audiance? If not then this is like shooting sitting ducks. Shake the audiance.

brother sorry to say i ddnt get u:S i dnt kno how to say tht

[lovespellszz]

brother sorry to say i ddnt get u:S i dnt kno how to say tht

I mean just do it! You will learn from your mistakes. The more bayaans u give, the more you hear the better you will be.

Some people are just natural speakers and some are not.

[JohnMitchel]

11 year olds having to do lectures?? and what is this 6 points about anyway ?