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Old 03-24-2011, 04:58 AM   #1
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Default is he the REAL mahdi?
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What i now wanna say is that i'm not talkin about the mahdi that the shias believe in.
(they believe that he is in caves..etc)
But today, in an islamic channel, the news was on. A boy, aged 7 was being interviewed.
When he was there the scholars(who were present with the boy) suddenly had a ''random'' feeling that the boy is mahdi because of some descriptions he had which matched the description of the real mahdi.
They were quite ....shocked and they started asking him questions.
they asked him for his name and he said it was ''Muhammad Al Ameen'' (he's an arab)
the boy was really innocent and he's a hafiz.
they tested him on the qur'aan...and they said out an ayah and he finished it off.
they asked him what surah the ayah is in and he answered successfully.
they asked him the ayah number and he got it right.
they asked him the PAGE number...and he thought for a while..and after a few seconds he answered correctly.
the scholars were surprised and now they r gonna check if he is from the ahlul bayt.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:08 AM   #2
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Thats very interesting, anymore details?
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:14 AM   #3
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Where does this kid live?

which channel was he aired onn?

who were the scolars?

to me it just soinds like a set up! ! !

no offence
jazakallah
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:20 AM   #4
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they asked him the PAGE number...and he thought for a while..and after a few seconds he answered correctly.
There is a man , who can tell you the page number of any word from a dictionary.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:21 AM   #5
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Its highly unlikely, even the night before he becomes aware that he is the Mahdi he doesnt know hes the Mahdi. Revealing his identity at such a tender age would put him in severe danger.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:33 AM   #6
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oh please......
enough of the kid exploitations..
A 100 yrs after hijrah 100,000's children were masters in qirat, quran, fiqh, hadith, etc.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:35 AM   #7
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Btw. is it really a condition for the Mahdi to be an expert in all these sciences?
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:38 AM   #8
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Btw. is it really a condition for the Mahdi to be an expert in all these sciences?


I've heard that the Mahdi won't be a scholar initially.. wallahu a'lam
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:20 AM   #9
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Mahdi will be recognized when Allah wishes. Don't pay attention to these television bogus.
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:48 AM   #10
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Salam,

I remember a similar case of a boy in africa some years ago (in the mid nineties). Similar claims were made, how ulama tested him and were amazed at the knowledge of this 7 year old etc. Later I believe it was exposed that the whole thing was faked. You will even find youtube videos of him giving bayans etc. When I watched one video I saw indications in his talk that he was told what to say. It was the way he worded some things and one point even let it slip that his father told him to mention a certain thing (despite his parents having been christians lol).

Personally, I have learnt to take such things with a pinch of salt. Had this truly been the case, i'm sure it would have spread amongst the community of ulama around the world and would have become big news. If it hasn't, then it's usually a bad sign. I wouldn't trust such things until it is verified by ulama we know are reliable and trustworthy.

wallahu a'alam.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:05 PM   #11
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Where does this kid live?

which channel was he aired onn?

who were the scolars?

to me it just soinds like a set up! ! !

no offence
jazakallah
he was on universal tv...u wont understand it coz it's not in english
tbh i'm not sure about the scholars names..but i will try and search for it

There was a saheeh hadith that once the prophet was asked several questions
''can a believer be a coward?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a miser?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a liar?'' the prophet replied ''NO''

..So i don't know why you think i made this up...perhaps the way i put the text together [?] ..or
the way i made it sound like [?] ..or
my english is not perfect [?]
i am still learning...(am 14 bdw)

as for the scholars names and where the kid lives..i will search for it insha'Allah
p.s:the boy himself DID NOT claim to be the mahdi.

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Old 03-24-2011, 01:07 PM   #12
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Where does this kid live?

which channel was he aired onn?

who were the scolars?

to me it just soinds like a set up! ! !

no offence
jazakallah
he was on universal tv...u wont understand it coz it's not in english
tbh i'm not sure about the scholars names..but i will try and search for it

There was a saheeh hadith that once the prophet was asked several questions
''can a believer be a coward?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a miser?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a liar?'' the prophet replied ''NO''

..So i don't know why you think i made this up...perhaps the way i put the text together [?] ..or
the way i made it sound like [?] ..or
my english is not perfect [?]
i am still learning...(am 14 bdw)

as for the scholars names and where the kid lives..i will search for it insha'Allah
p.s:the boy himself DID NOT claim to be the mahdi.

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Old 03-24-2011, 01:58 PM   #13
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What do u think about Zakir Naik then..??
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:28 PM   #14
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There was a saheeh hadith that once the prophet was asked several questions
''can a believer be a coward?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a miser?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a liar?'' the prophet replied ''NO''


Please check the wordings of the hadith again. The Prophet(saws) replied "Yes" to whether a believer could be a coward and a liar and "No" to whether he could be a miser. Perhaps one of the 'Ulama on the forum can help.
Wasalam.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:30 PM   #15
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..So i don't know why you think i made this up...perhaps the way i put the text together [?] ..or
the way i made it sound like [?] ..or
my english is not perfect [?]
i am still learning...(am 14 bdw)

as for the scholars names and where the kid lives..i will search for it insha'Allah
p.s:the boy himself DID NOT claim to be the mahdi.


Seeker is not suspecting you but the channel.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:33 PM   #16
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..So i don't know why you think i made this up...perhaps the way i put the text together [?] ..or
the way i made it sound like [?] ..or
my english is not perfect [?]
i am still learning...(am 14 bdw)
I dont think he meant to accuse you of setting this up. The television channels or so called 'scholars' cannot be trusted nowadays, it is possible if they made some kind of a set up.

Btw Mahdi is supposed to come after Dajjal right?

Allah knows best.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:55 PM   #17
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he was on universal tv...u wont understand it coz it's not in english
tbh i'm not sure about the scholars names..but i will try and search for it

There was a saheeh hadith that once the prophet was asked several questions
''can a believer be a coward?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a miser?'' the prophet replied ''YES''
''can a believer be a liar?'' the prophet replied ''NO''

..So i don't know why you think i made this up...perhaps the way i put the text together [?] ..or
the way i made it sound like [?] ..or
my english is not perfect [?]
i am still learning...(am 14 bdw)

as for the scholars names and where the kid lives..i will search for it insha'Allah
p.s:the boy himself DID NOT claim to be the mahdi.

Astaghfirullah , May Allah swt forgive me.

i didn't mean to say that you are liying ,or that you are making it up.

that would be totally wrong , i mean to say that the tv chanel is faking it.

sorry for the missunderstanding.

jazakallah
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:56 PM   #18
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oh please......
enough of the kid exploitations..
A 100 yrs after hijrah 100,000's children were masters in qirat, quran, fiqh, hadith, etc.



And I highly doubt the mahdi will come on TV, with a load of scholars claiming him to be mahdi.

Otherwise, you had better watch you tyrants of the world, the mahdi is here, he is 7 years old, you only have another 33 years left before your history

man, even the kuffar arn't going to take this seriously.
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:50 PM   #19
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Salam,

Let's not forget that according to ahadith, the Mahdi would be recognized by the ulama in the Haram shareef. So these claims already sound dubious.

wallahu a'alam.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:10 PM   #20
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Everyone should watch this excellent talk by Mufti Abdur-Rahman ibn Yusuf [DB]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Il02mzDUg
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