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**Gorlummm** · 10-11-2012, 07:54 PM

Muslims help me to seek refuge in the true islam

**lionsiy** · 10-11-2012, 08:02 PM

I do not already renounce Shiism but I will to do. Now I just want my questions answered to be sure of Sunna is the real followers of Quran.

Classic Taqiyya...

**yasmin** · 10-11-2012, 08:04 PM

Classic Taqiyya...

all they have to do is ask why muslims have particular views on mutah.

cant understand why they have to lie and deceive.

**RgtrsKfR** · 10-11-2012, 08:05 PM

Muslims help me to seek refuge in the true islam

As previous brothers have said I doubt your decision to become a sunni is based on these 2 things... abrogation of a verse and also albani's so called opinion on breastfeeding - (i dont know his opion, i know he was a modern day hadith master ) but after all it is an opinion of a scholar albani doesnt represent Islam only...

but I will try to explain later the issue of mutah, more detail and why abrogation happened.

i already have explained breastfeeding issue, according to all 4 schools it is a isolated incident and doesnt permit it generally...

**RgtrsKfR** · 10-11-2012, 08:07 PM

Remember the verse of abrogation

It is in this light that we should regard the wisdom of abrogation within the Quran:

"And when we put a revelation in place of (another) revelation and Allah knows best what He reveals -- they say: you are just inventing it. Most of them do not know. Say: The Holy Spirit (Gibril) has revealed it from your hand with truth and as a guidance and good news for those who have surrendered (to God)" [16:101-102]

in the Quran, the abrogating verses mark the end of the validity of the abrogated verses because their heed and effect was of a temporary or limited nature. In time the new law appears and announces the end of the validity of the earlier law. Considering that Quran was revealed over a period of twenty-three years in ever-changing circumstances, it is not difficult to imagine the necessity of such laws.

**MontyP@thon** · 10-11-2012, 08:18 PM

(i dont know his opion, i know he was a modern day hadith master ) but after all it is an opinion of a scholar albani doesnt represent Islam only...

I don't want to speak ill of the dead, so I'll say no, he was not a hadith master, post a link, and leave it at that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvGcTf3WXhM&feature=plcp

**Gorlummm** · 10-11-2012, 08:38 PM

How someone can be much stupid that never think what he is writing.

I Swear by Allah "I AM A SHIA WANT TO CONVERT TO SALAFI"

Why someone doesn't help me? I am discrete shia because of Quran and I must be sure of Sunna Aqeeda is purely Quranic.I have only a question to become Salafi:

Quran is infallible and protected and when talk about Mut'a it abrogates this itself for sure. Where is the abrogation of Mut'a?

**denwerdinoss** · 10-11-2012, 08:47 PM

shias

**denwerdinoss** · 10-11-2012, 08:49 PM

How someone can be much stupid that never think what he is writing.

Swear by Allah "I AM A SHIA WANT TO CONVERT TO SALAFI"

Why someone doesn't help me? I am discrete shia because of Quran and I must be sure of Sunna Aqeeda is purely Quranic.I have only a question to become Salafi:

Quran is infallible and protected and when talk about Mut'a it abrogates this itself for sure. Where is the abrogation of Mut'a?

Well you didn't swear by Allah. You didn't say I Swear by Allah. You said "Swear by Allah".

We have a troll on our hand.

We've gotta give him his own medicine and start trolling.

**denwerdinoss** · 10-11-2012, 09:00 PM

You shias come here and troll, I'm going over to your sh-ia chat right now.

**denwerdinoss** · 10-11-2012, 09:16 PM

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**Gorlummm** · 10-12-2012, 01:23 AM

help me Salaf As-Salih Ummah

**ZenDers** · 10-12-2012, 01:27 AM

help me Salaf As-Salih Ummah

Brothers/sisters who are replying you here are all "Salaf As-Salih Ummah".

Stop this before some one hurt remembers you in his/her duas.

**leijggigf** · 10-12-2012, 03:36 AM

Salam `Aleykum,

Mut`ah means "pleasure", the Quranic verse says "Ma Istamta`tum" meaning what benefits you drew from them(Women) or what pleasure you get from them(women), you have to pay them their Ajr(dowries), the Quran does not mention ANYTHING whatsoever about "temporary marriage", and the Prophet (SAWS) clearly prohibited temporary marriage.

Salam,

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RgtrsKfR Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	Muslims help me to seek refuge in the true islam As previous brothers have said I doubt your decision to become a sunni is based on these 2 things... abrogation of a verse and also albani's so called opinion on breastfeeding - (i dont know his opion, i know he was a modern day hadith master ) but after all it is an opinion of a scholar albani doesnt represent Islam only... but I will try to explain later the issue of mutah, more detail and why abrogation happened. i already have explained breastfeeding issue, according to all 4 schools it is a isolated incident and doesnt permit it generally... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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RgtrsKfR Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	Remember the verse of abrogation It is in this light that we should regard the wisdom of abrogation within the Quran: "And when we put a revelation in place of (another) revelation and Allah knows best what He reveals -- they say: you are just inventing it. Most of them do not know. Say: The Holy Spirit (Gibril) has revealed it from your hand with truth and as a guidance and good news for those who have surrendered (to God)" [16:101-102] in the Quran, the abrogating verses mark the end of the validity of the abrogated verses because their heed and effect was of a temporary or limited nature. In time the new law appears and announces the end of the validity of the earlier law. Considering that Quran was revealed over a period of twenty-three years in ever-changing circumstances, it is not difficult to imagine the necessity of such laws. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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MontyP@thon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	(i dont know his opion, i know he was a modern day hadith master ) but after all it is an opinion of a scholar albani doesnt represent Islam only... I don't want to speak ill of the dead, so I'll say no, he was not a hadith master, post a link, and leave it at that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvGcTf3WXhM&feature=plcp Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2012, 08:38 PM	#27
Gorlummm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	How someone can be much stupid that never think what he is writing. I Swear by Allah "I AM A SHIA WANT TO CONVERT TO SALAFI" Why someone doesn't help me? I am discrete shia because of Quran and I must be sure of Sunna Aqeeda is purely Quranic.I have only a question to become Salafi: Quran is infallible and protected and when talk about Mut'a it abrogates this itself for sure. Where is the abrogation of Mut'a? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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denwerdinoss Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	How someone can be much stupid that never think what he is writing. Swear by Allah "I AM A SHIA WANT TO CONVERT TO SALAFI" Why someone doesn't help me? I am discrete shia because of Quran and I must be sure of Sunna Aqeeda is purely Quranic.I have only a question to become Salafi: Quran is infallible and protected and when talk about Mut'a it abrogates this itself for sure. Where is the abrogation of Mut'a? Well you didn't swear by Allah. You didn't say I Swear by Allah. You said "Swear by Allah". We have a troll on our hand. We've gotta give him his own medicine and start trolling. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2012, 01:27 AM	#33
ZenDers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 639 Senior Member	help me Salaf As-Salih Ummah Brothers/sisters who are replying you here are all "Salaf As-Salih Ummah". Stop this before some one hurt remembers you in his/her duas. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2012, 03:36 AM	#34
leijggigf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Salam `Aleykum, Mut`ah means "pleasure", the Quranic verse says "Ma Istamta`tum" meaning what benefits you drew from them(Women) or what pleasure you get from them(women), you have to pay them their Ajr(dowries), the Quran does not mention ANYTHING whatsoever about "temporary marriage", and the Prophet (SAWS) clearly prohibited temporary marriage. Salam, Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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