DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate (http://www.discussworldissues.com/forums/)
-   Islam (http://www.discussworldissues.com/forums/islam/)
-   -   help me to convert to salafi (http://www.discussworldissues.com/forums/islam/259547-help-me-convert-salafi.html)

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 03:46 PM

help me to convert to salafi
 
Brothers please help me to convert to Salafi Muslim. I am a Shia now but I have thought more tht thousand times about the delimma between Shia or Salaf and now wana to convert to salafi. But I do not know someone to help me then I seek refuge in here. May Allah help you to answer me. I have some questions I want salafi Mulism here to answer me or direct me to website which I can ask my question to resolve my doubts.

yasmin 10-11-2012 03:59 PM

what do you mean by 'convert to salafi'?

do you want to convert from shia to sunni - is that what you mean?

ZX3URrBH 10-11-2012 04:04 PM

You just denounce your Shia religion like following the Shia Imams, cursing/disliking the sahaba, Allah does not change His opinion after He made a decision, temporary marriage is halal, imams have a higher rank than prophets etc.

You deem the belief that the qur'an is incomplete, as kufr etc.

Then you have become a Salafi.

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 04:11 PM

Why no one here catch me? Please answer me or redirect me where can answer my questions. I want to convert to Salafi Sunnis but I have questions, like why temporary marriage is haram while the verse in Quran emphasize that. or why adult breastfeeding is halal while Quran say nothing about it. Please help me

RgtrsKfR 10-11-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

You just denounce your Shia religion like following the Shia Imams, cursing/disliking the sahaba, Allah does not change His opinion after He made a decision, temporary marriage is halal, imams have a higher rank than prophets etc.

You deem the belief that the qur'an is incomplete, as kufr etc.

Then you have become a Salafi.
Make tuaubah
Renounce beleifs if you have them :


ideas that quran has changed
Any ill feeling or idea that close companions were misguided
Any bad feeling or misguidance that the wives happened
Discard any Jafari fiqh you made have learn you will need to learn how to pray, do wudu etc

Study Aqeedah, Fiqh..

mashalah welcome to a whole new world...

Alahamdulillah

RgtrsKfR 10-11-2012 04:19 PM

Mutah was stopped see :

The basic principle concerning marriage is that it should be ongoing and permanent. Temporary marriage – i.e., mut’ah marriage – was permitted at the beginning of Islam, then it was abrogated and became haraam until the Day of Judgement.

It was narrated from ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade mut’ah marriage and the meat of domestic donkeys at the time of Khaybar. According to another report, he forbade mut’ah marriage at the time of Khaybar and he forbade the meat of tame donkeys.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3979; Muslim, 1407.



also breastfeeding issue :

it is not permitted for an adult to intentionally drink breast-milk; neither will it have any bearing on the rules of Hijab and marriage. The companion Salim (Allah be pleased with him) was given a special dispensation by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) to drink the milk of Sahla, the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, due to the special circumstances of their case. However, Salim did not directly drink the milk from the breast of Sahla, rather, she would pour the milk in a utensil and he would drink from it.

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 04:44 PM

Really thank you brothers. Specially redcurry who get what I am saying. Please do not leave me alone. I really think that true Islam is only in Salaf As-Salih Ummah.

Let me continue. Allah said I abrogate verses. Can I rely on a hadeeth against a verse of Quran? Why Mut'a is preached in Quran but it's abrogation dose not exist? And about Adult Breastfeeding, why Shaikh Albaani issued this fatwa halal?

ZenDers 10-11-2012 04:58 PM

Taqiyyah!!!

Someone was suggesting probation period, what happened to that.

yasmin 10-11-2012 05:09 PM

dilemma, why do you want to leave the shia cult?

what have you found in the cult that is so wrong that you want leave?

is it the mutah?
is it the taqiyyah?
is it cursing of the sahaba?
is it worshipping of the imams?
is it self flagelation?

is it because you saw how Allah disgraced khomeini on his death by dropping his cursed body and exposing his disgusting body to the world?

this pic...

http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress....jpg.jpeg?w=700

what did he do in his life that Allah cursed and humiiliated him in death?

To cover-up the humiliating funeral of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the Iranian authorities tried to confiscate every roll of film taken in a crowd estimated at 2 million. One of such photos made it to The Associated Press in London next day...

Nearly a million mourners thrust forward...to touch the body and snatch a piece of the linen burial shroud, leading to an ignominious exposing of the remains.

The corpse spilled to the ground, bare feet protruding from beneath the white shroud. As the Revolutionary Guards beat back the crowds, firing shots in the air and spraying fire hoses, other soldiers shoved the body and coffin back into the chopper. It lifted off with the casket hanging precariously out the door. what is it? why do you want to leave?

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 05:31 PM

I want leave Shia because of one verse in Quran which said every thing is available in Quran but Shia attached something else to Islam, just that. But some misgivings also exist in Sunni, only these two things. Mut'a and Adult Breastfeeding.

Now if you can help me, answer my previous post and may Allah be pleased with you but if you want mock me with such foolish words like Taghyya leave this thread and let be be enlightened.

denwerdinoss 10-11-2012 05:38 PM

Oh, you want to become muslim.

Take your shahadah and leave shiism.

yasmin 10-11-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

I want leave Shia because of one verse in Quran which said every thing is available in Quran but Shia attached something else to Islam, just that. But some misgivings also exist in Sunni, only these two things. Mut'a and Adult Breastfeeding.

Now if you can help me, answer my previous post and may Allah be pleased with you but if you want mock me with such foolish words like Taghyya leave this thread and let be be enlightened.
so you have completely renounced the shia cult?

do you now wish to be on the quran and sunnah as understood by the companions of the Prophet http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/pbuh.gif and those scholars who took their guidance from the Prophet http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/pbuh.gif and His companions (rd)?

yasmin 10-11-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Oh, you want to become muslim.

Take your shahadah and leave shiism.
more or less this. renounce shiaism. take shahadah. become muslim.

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 05:46 PM

I do not already renounce Shiism but I will to do. Now I just want my questions answered to be sure of Sunna is the real followers of Quran.

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 05:48 PM

Please experts answer me, this dilemma is gradually killing me.

Allah said I abrogate verses. Can I rely on a hadeeth against a verse of Quran? Why Mut'a is preached in Quran but it's abrogation dose not exist? And about Adult Breastfeeding, why Shaikh Albaani issued this fatwa halal?

yasmin 10-11-2012 05:50 PM

let me explain why people are a bit dubious about you.

from time to time we get people from the shia cult coming on this forum and either act as muslim or act as if they are wanting to become muslim. why they need to lie and deceive about this i dont understand. i think its just in their nature to lie as their whole religion is based upon lies just the same as the fitnah of dajjal is based upon lies and deception.

these liars and deceivers then try to act innocent and bring up claims against islam. sometimes their claims are either refuted by muslims, and sometimes the muslims just cannot be bothered as they have been through this time and time again. in either case the outcome is usually that the shia will ignore the refutations and clarifications, and carry on creating fitnah, as this was the original aim in the first place. this will carry on for a bit until the shia is frustrated and then says something that will cause him to get banned.

so if you are a shia doing taqiyyah then do not be a coward and just come out with it. if you have a problem with islam then bring it up and if someone can be bothered to engage you then they will.

if you are not a shia doing taqiyyah then the first step to you becoming a muslim has already been told to you by a 13 year old child mashallah.

yasmin 10-11-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Please experts answer me, this dilemma is gradually killing me.

Allah said I abrogate verses. Can I rely on a hadeeth against a verse of Quran? Why Mut'a is preached in Quran but it's abrogation dose not exist? And about Adult Breastfeeding, why Shaikh Albaani issued this fatwa halal?
if you have denounced shiaism then the first thing you should be worried about is getting your aqeedah straightened out. this is what you will be questioned about in the day of judgment. you will not be questioned about intricate matters of quran and hadith and fiqh.

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 06:08 PM

That is not about a fiqh question. This is a verse existed in Quran.
That is not much intricate. If Sunnis deny Mut'a verse in Quran while Shia said Quran is the truth. Why do I convert to Sunnis?

retrahdggd 10-11-2012 06:25 PM

Quote:

That is not about a fiqh question. This is a verse existed in Quran.
That is not much intricate. If Sunnis deny Mut'a verse in Quran while Shia said Quran is the truth. Why do I convert to Sunnis?
There is no verse in the Qur'an that mentions Mut'ah nor talks about it!

Gorlummm 10-11-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

There is no verse in the Qur'an that mentions Mut'ah nor talks about it!
You and like you know nothing about Islam. Every great Mufti professed the verse of Mut'a but talk about abrogation which is not exist in Quran.

http://quran.com/4/24


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:39 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2