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Old 10-05-2007, 11:31 PM   #1
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Default Praying Salah bare-headed is AGAINST the Sunnah!
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:41 AM   #2
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oh and on the same page, i was told that an imam must have a beard or otherwise one shouldnt pray behind him?
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:46 AM   #3
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Jazakallahu khair brother Muadh Khan for the information.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:12 AM   #4
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Why do some saudi salafis not cover their heads?
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:53 AM   #5
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Asslamo Allaikum,

I NEVER saw any of my teachers or students of knowledge in Saudi with their head uncovered, by the same token it is NOT compulsory.
I haven't seen many salafis bareheaded, but I have never seen Yasir Qahdi wear anything and another salafi scholar, so I was wondering why.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:48 AM   #6
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Implementing the sunnah of miswaak right now (which is a far greater sunnah). Perhaps this will be in line some time soon InshaAllah.
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:22 PM   #7
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Yup, as the title of the thread says, praying Salah bear-headed is surely against the Sunnah!
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:55 PM   #8
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The Crown of a Believer

A detailed treatise on the status of Islamic headgear in the light of the Ahadith and the lives of the sahaba.

The author has taken great pains to establish the headgear in the light of the sunnah and other reliable sources. He has described the sunnah headgear in a most scholarly and commendable manner. In an era when one sees more hair than headgears, outside and even in the Mosque, a book of this nature is most welcome. Indeed, wearing the headgear is not ritualistic at all and it should form part of our overall efforts of reviving the sunnah and the spirit of islam.

Includes references.

http://www.azharacademy.com/Scripts/...idproduct=1692
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:48 PM   #9
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Asslamo Allaikum,
I NEVER saw any of my teachers or students of knowledge in Saudi with their head uncovered, by the same token it is NOT compulsory.
Assalamu alaikum,

Brother Muadh Khan,

Jazakallahu Khairan for this effort. Allah SWT knows that I have much respect for you, because you are a disciplined person. I hope that I have never upset you with any of my contributions.

Brother Mustajab,

Please don't be upset with what I am about to say:

I would be very careful about this 'naming and shaming' that you have done in two different posts (especially in this blessed month).

In Islam, even if people neglect a Fardh (compulsory), then you still are not allowed to 'name and shame' them, because our Prophet SAWS did not do it, and because it would fall under Ghaibah (Backbiting).

To use a Sunnah action in highlighting a person or a group is way out of line. (Presuming that you have enough proof for it!).

We all do that by mistake sometimes, I may have done that in the past, and for that Astaghfirullah.

I think that Brother Muadh's quote above should have been enough.

I pray to Allah SWT to forgive us all, and hope that my Du'aa will be Mustajab.

Wassalam
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:43 AM   #10
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Yup, as the title of the thread says, praying Salah bear-headed is surely against the Sunnah!
a bear mask would prevent the forehead and the nose from topuching the ground so in addition to be against the sunnah it would probably render the salah invalid.

yes, we should not pray bear-headed
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:09 PM   #11
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http://www.albalagh.net/qa/covering_head.shtml

Q) Is the prayer valid if Imam of the mosque does not cover his head with cap or same cloth? What kind of requirement is it to cover one's head in prayers. Is it wajib, Mustahab, or what? (Zubair A. Khan, Chicago)

A) Covering one's head during salah is a sunnah and one should act upon it to the best possible extent, however, it is not a mandatory condition for the validity of salah therefore, the obligation is discharged without it, though devoid of the blessings of sunnah. We should try our best to make our salah as close to the sunnah as possible. Even a slight carelessness may deprive us from the barakah and reward which every sunnah of the Holy Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, may bring to his true follower. Therefore, we should not take this matter lightly.
here we go again *sighs*
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:13 PM   #12
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The head gear didnt come about because of Islam..the Prophet peace be upon him was not the first to wear..it existed from before He became a Prophet..and all kinds of people wore it whether they were polytheists, christians or jews. So i guess thats ENOUGH!
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:35 PM   #13
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Eating and drinking did not come about because of Islam, The prophet was not the first one to eat and drink, and all kinds of people eat and drank including polythiests, christians and jews. So I guess thats ENOUGH!

Other people may well have been wearing headgear but maybe Islams differed from theirs. If you gonna say all those things which other faiths did at that time/do, like Islam, then you will come unstuck. Islam has taught us how do do things in the correct way. the way in which Allah will become most happy with us.
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:32 PM   #14
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I haven't seen many salafis bareheaded, but I have never seen Yasir Qahdi wear anything and another salafi scholar, so I was wondering why.
The actual question to ask is, why don't they wear the turban?
I haven't seen a single wahabi scholar wearing a turban.
I only see Sufi or madhabi inclined people wear the turban.
The shi'as have a different type of turban though.
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:43 PM   #15
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Eating and drinking did not come about because of Islam, The prophet was not the first one to eat and drink, and all kinds of people eat and drank including polythiests, christians and jews. So I guess thats ENOUGH!

Other people may well have been wearing headgear but maybe Islams differed from theirs. If you gonna say all those things which other faiths did at that time/do, like Islam, then you will come unstuck. Islam has taught us how do do things in the correct way. the way in which Allah will become most happy with us.
Asslamo Allaikum,

Lets go with your logic for a minute here...

If headgear was wore by previous nations and previous prophets and Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) continued the practise then that you would add more weight to the argument and not lessen it, i.e. if ALL PROPHETS followed a practise and We (Muslims) believe that all prophets were DIVINELY GUIDED , then why would we want to IGNORE the practise of previous nations and previous prophets (including Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam))?

Surely prophets have more knowledge & wisdon then us?
Well the thing is the Prophets dressed according to THEIR CULTURE!! they didnt differenciate themselves from their people ( as long as this didnt contradict the principles of the message they were going to propogate) why is this soooooooooooo difficult to understand!! Did Prophet Abraham or Prophet Adam dress like Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all)?

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) dressed the way he did because he was born and bred in Arabia H edressed according to his culture (naturally) and according to that era( naturally) The people of his land nowadays dress differently..the thobes are different and their 'igal is different too ( this maybe because they came from different parts of the expanded Arabia from different tribes etc).Inspite of this you see brothers everywhere dress like the modern Gulf Arabs (khaleejis) thinking they are fulfilling an Islamic Obligation!!!

Prophet Muhammed (p)had personal tastes..a preferred mode of transport, preferred type of food, preferred type of fragrance('ithir) and a preferred type of dress and even a preferred type of colour!! Does that mean we have to take that as directives of Allah and thus binding upon every Muslim ??? In that case it becmes prohibited (haram) to have any likes or dislikes if this contradicts with the Prophet's opinions!! Inna Lillilah wa inna ilayhi raji'oun!!
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:03 PM   #16
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ohhh i most certainly am not confusing things..in fact I would argue it is YOU folks who are..i'll get back at you later now i have to go and pray salat then head off to town.
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:53 PM   #17
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Eating and drinking did not come about because of Islam, The prophet was not the first one to eat and drink, and all kinds of people eat and drank including polythiests, christians and jews. So I guess thats ENOUGH!
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:59 PM   #18
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Maulana tareeq jameel expalined beautifuly with regards to the modes of transport. That he used various modes of transport of varying quality, to show the ummah that one can use varying qualities of transport. He rode a donkey/mule, horse, camel.

Many wisdoms in each and every sunnah.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:11 PM   #19
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Assalamu alaikum,

Brother Muadh Khan,

Jazakallahu Khairan for this effort. Allah SWT knows that I have much respect for you, because you are a disciplined person. I hope that I have never upset you with any of my contributions.

Brother Mustajab,

Please don't be upset with what I am about to say:

I would be very careful about this 'naming and shaming' that you have done in two different posts (especially in this blessed month).

In Islam, even if people neglect a Fardh (compulsory), then you still are not allowed to 'name and shame' them, because our Prophet SAWS did not do it, and because it would fall under Ghaibah (Backbiting).

To use a Sunnah action in highlighting a person or a group is way out of line. (Presuming that you have enough proof for it!).

We all do that by mistake sometimes, I may have done that in the past, and for that Astaghfirullah.

I think that Brother Muadh's quote above should have been enough.

I pray to Allah SWT to forgive us all, and hope that my Du'aa will be Mustajab.

Wassalam
Jamaluddine
My intent was not to name and shame.I was genuinely curious why one wouldn't cover their head. I was particularly wondering if those who don't cover had some sort of evidence. Other than that I have great respect for Yasir Qahdi as a scholar. And ameen to your dua.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:13 PM   #20
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Well the thing is the Prophets dressed according to THEIR CULTURE!!
Correct, but whatever the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did or dressed like becomes part of the Sunnah and it is no longer ´just culture.´ Why are you becoming upset because people want to emulate their beloved in whatever way possible. There was a sahabi who would literally walk in his footsteps that he saw in the sand, there was a sahabi who would duck where Rasulullah ducked for a branch, even if that branch was no longer there.

And back to covering the head, it was the custom of the arabs, but the muslims differed from them mushrikeen in that they wore a kufi undernearth their turbans. So to say ´it is just culture´ is not 100% correct.
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