[bWn4h8QD]

why do you want a "healer" anyway?

sounds like a ghastly African evangelical practice, if you are stricken physically - visit a doctor. If you are spiritually malnourished - do more Dhikr and nu'afil.

Surely the advent Islam liberated mankind from such primitive fixations with "healing"...

Only Allah can heal.

p.s

the cricklewood guy does exist.

Can someone ban this above guy. Insulting the ulama is against the rules of this forum. Shaykh Abu Bakr as Sudani is a kamil shaykh and one of the leaders of ahle sunnah wal jammah of our times.
Comparing his activities to African evangelical practice just shows your lack of knowledge and understanding in this matter. May Allah SWT guide and me to the correct path.

[pavlik]

i have heard of some practices that i am not too sure about like lighting papers with stuff written on them in oil and taking in the smoke and offering sacrifices on some sites i have read that if someone asks for your mothers name they are not legit as only magicians ask for that but then i know of hakeems who ask for that information then i have read if they ask you to offer a sacrifice that is also dodgy but again i have heard of ppl who have been told to do this i am confused what is and isnt legit?

[Neitteloxesia]

assalaamu alaykum

i dont know if this is the right section for this please forgive me if it isnt.

I was wondering if any brothers or sister could help me i want to find a knowledgeable person in the area of healing like using the Quran and Sunnah i know very little but i do know there are some fakes out there so i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.

Jazak Allah Khayr for you time

[gugamotina]

was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.

Jazak Allah Khayr for you time

Go up Maida Vale (A5) towards Cricklewood, keep heading straight up Kilburn High Road, and just before you get to Cricklewood Broadway, take a left on to Chichele Road. At the end of the street, you'll see a green double-domed mosque (its basically a refurbished church)......

if you go upstairs, on saturdays there's a man known as Shaykh Abu Bakr (Babakr Ali Babakr) - he leads an ecstatic group of rhythmic sufis who do these weird dance dhikr sessions called 'hadhra'....

His methods are unorthodox, but legend has it that he's the best in the business, he is not a huckster or a quack and does not charge for his services. He is a mathematician (or statistical theorist) in his professional life, but was trained in the ilm 'ul Ghayb by a long line of desert Shayukh stretching back to Abdal Qadir Jilani.

it is said that he turns away the vast majority of people who come to him for 'healing', advising them instead to seek clinical treatment.

[Frdsdx26]

Jazak Allah Khayr for the info but i am a little worried about what i would be getting into is the dancing and all the legit. does anyone know anything more about him or has anyone you know ever tried him before?

[Enfotanab]

Go up Maida Vale (A5) towards Cricklewood, keep heading straight up Kilburn High Road, and just before you get to Cricklewood Broadway, take a left on to Chichele Road. At the end of the street, you'll see a green double-domed mosque (its basically a refurbished church)......

if you go upstairs, on saturdays there's a man known as Shaykh Abu Bakr (Babakr Ali Babakr) - he leads an ecstatic group of rhythmic sufis who do these weird dance dhikr sessions called 'hadhra'....

His methods are unorthodox, but legend has it that he's the best in the business, he is not a huckster or a quack and does not charge for his services. He is a mathematician (or statistical theorist) in his professional life, but was trained in the ilm 'ul Ghayb by a long line of desert Shayukh stretching back to Abdal Qadir Jilani.

it is said that he turns away the vast majority of people who come to him for 'healing', advising them instead to seek clinical treatment.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or really offering the fellow member help. But what I do know is that you should speak with a bit more restraint when talking about Shayouk.

[valiumcheapll]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or really offering the fellow member help. But what I do know is that you should speak with a bit more restraint when talking about Shayouk.

huh??? was he being sarcastic? here is me thinking this was a serious forum!!! SOOOOOOOOO anyone with serious advice?

[Obenuearema]

huh??? was he being sarcastic? here is me thinking this was a serious forum!!! SOOOOOOOOO anyone with serious advice?

Well, I know Shaykh Abu Bakr is a part of a tariqa and also an advocate of the hadrah, but the way the brother presented the information didn't seem very respectful with his overtones. But like I said, I wasn't sure if he was being sarcastic or not.

[Garry Hovard]

why do you want a "healer" anyway?

sounds like a ghastly African evangelical practice, if you are stricken physically - visit a doctor. If you are spiritually malnourished - do more Dhikr and nu'afil.

Surely the advent Islam liberated mankind from such primitive fixations with "healing"...

Only Allah can heal.

p.s

the cricklewood guy does exist.

[eliniaguilefp7m]

assalaamu alaykum

i dont know if this is the right section for this please forgive me if it isnt.

I was wondering if any brothers or sister could help me i want to find a knowledgeable person in the area of healing like using the Quran and Sunnah i know very little but i do know there are some fakes out there so i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.

Jazak Allah Khayr for you time

I know a very good one, in London, he is also a hakeem...do you live in London, I can give you him his details....

[denSmumbSes]

ALHADULILLAH..i know someone who uses "ruqya" ..quranic aayahs and muaqqals..paak jinns

2 aamils in batley

[Poreponko]

ALHADULILLAH..i know someone who uses "ruqya" ..quranic aayahs and muaqqals..paak jinns

2 aamils in batley

could you give me details of the person has anyone used him before?

[FUNALA]

why do you want a "healer" anyway?

sounds like a ghastly African evangelical practice, if you are stricken physically - visit a doctor. If you are spiritually malnourished - do more Dhikr and nu'afil.

Surely the advent Islam liberated mankind from such primitive fixations with "healing"...

Only Allah can heal.

p.s

the cricklewood guy does exist.

doctors dont always have answers!

[rootoronpunty]

why do you want a "healer" anyway?

sounds like a ghastly African evangelical practice, if you are stricken physically - visit a doctor. If you are spiritually malnourished - do more Dhikr and nu'afil.

Surely the advent Islam liberated mankind from such primitive fixations with "healing"...

Only Allah can heal.

p.s

the cricklewood guy does exist.

Indeed, only Allah can heal. However, Rasulullah did perform Ruqja, somebody correct me if that ain't so. Jinn can possess a human's body - proven with the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Only the ignorant or arrogant will object this.

Akhi, say if you had never been possessed by a jinn, for you probably have no idea what's it like. For if you did, you wouldn't be so against the healing, which BTW is established by the Sunnah.

May Allah open your eyes and soften your heart.

PS And about the weird sufi dancing, rolling, etc. I can't help you since I don't understand that either.

[Si8jy8HN]

is there anyway one could contact the Shaykh by telephone or email?

any info would be appreciated.


Jazkallah Khair!!

[77chawzence]

is there anyway one could contact the Shaykh by telephone or email?

any info would be appreciated.


Jazkallah Khair!!

Which Shaykh do you want to contact the cricklewood one?

[Pete789]

Which Shaykh do you want to contact the cricklewood one yes I believe his name is Shaykh Babikr Ahmad Babikr (May Allah Protect Him)

[Evoncalabbalo]

why are u acting so intolerant to a point of view stated by the brother. it is obvious he doesn't know about Sh Ba Bikir As-Sudani (DB) and hence made his comments. We should inform the brother regarding traditional islam rather than ban him.

Can someone ban this above guy. Insulting the ulama is against the rules of this forum. Shaykh Abu Bakr as Sudani is a kamil shaykh and one of the leaders of ahle sunnah wal jammah of our times.
Comparing his activities to African evangelical practice just shows your lack of knowledge and understanding in this matter. May Allah SWT guide and me to the correct path.

[streMunford]

i find it troubling that sane grown men should so venerate another fallible human being....and attribute esoteric powers to him.

if this guy can really "heal", why doesn't he go and cure sick kids in Africa....?

instead of wooing gullible pseudo-spiritualists in London.

this just confirms my deep suspicion of "bakthi" or devotional sufism that puts a dangerous amount of emotional capital in another human being.

a dark and primitive custom sourced in the indigous cultures of Africa...leads to superstition and ruin.

best avoided.


may Allah guide us all.

[jarsbars]

Br. I think you are drifting from the issue. We have all accepted and established that healing and cure ONLY comes from Allah. But Allah is not sitting there to physically remove ailment for you.. That is not befitting his devinity..He merely wills and it is. He creates means and Asbaab. These healers are a means of that cure.

Does tylonol or asprin cures headache? Yes its does. Allah makes it so. But we muslims are not saying that the pill is the origin of the cure..

Spiritual healing is a valid field within Islam, also practiced by none other but Rasulullah . The methods used would differ.. ruqiya, recitation, wazaif.. etc.. As long as the method does not include anything contrary to shariah, it will be permissible.

Now discuss from hereforth.. dont keep siting on the same thing, on and on..