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Old 09-02-2012, 11:14 AM   #1
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Default Deobandi Shaykh Husain Ahmad Madani on Stamp Paper !!
Asslamulaikum,

Today morning I was pleased to read the newspaper; to see that the Republic of India has issued a new "Postal Stamp" having Shaykh-ul-Hind Maulana Husain Ahmad Madani.

Source: http://epaper.inquilab.com/epaperhom...012&edd=mumbai

In my memory this has been the second presense of Deoband on the Postal Stamps, earlier the picture of the institute "Darul-uloom-Deoband India" was issued by the Government.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:17 PM   #2
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Asslamulaikum,

Today morning I was pleased to read the newspaper; to see that the Republic of India has issued a new "Postal Stamp" having Shaykh-ul-Hind Maulana Husain Ahmad Madani.

Source: http://epaper.inquilab.com/epaperhom...012&edd=mumbai

In my memory this has been the second presense of Deoband on the Postal Stamps, earlier the picture of the institute "Darul-uloom-Deoband India" was issued by the Government.
I am a bit undecided - we do not promote pictures of our elders. So this is an anti-news in a sense.
May be we should seek some answers from Deoband.
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Old 09-02-2012, 08:43 PM   #3
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are photographs also halal now?
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:04 PM   #4
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What page of inquilab is this article on?
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:22 PM   #5
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What page of inquilab is this article on?
The Last Page (No 16)
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:25 PM   #6
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I am a bit undecided - we do not promote pictures of our elders. So this is an anti-news in a sense.
May be we should seek some answers from Deoband.
Assalamu alaykum

It is a stamp and from a normal distance the man in the stamp cannot be identified, according to ulema that is valid.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:29 PM   #7
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Assalamu alaykum

It is a stamp and from a normal distance the man in the stamp cannot be identified, according to ulema that is valid.


you cant recognise this image is a man?

-clip-

which ulama said this?

btw according to the ulama you have cited, this image does not break sunniforum rules.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:35 PM   #8
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you cant recognise this image is a man?

-clip-

which ulama said this?

btw according to the ulama you have cited, this image does not break sunniforum rules.
Assalamu alaykum

May be you can go and ask the ulema in your place.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:42 PM   #9
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Assalamu alaykum

May be you can go and ask the ulema in your place.
inshallah i will. can you tell me which ulama you cited.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:08 PM   #10
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inshallah i will. can you tell me which ulama you cited.
Please check with Jamiat Ulema e Hind. They have their representatives in the UK
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:14 PM   #11
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Please check with Jamiat Ulema e Hind. They have their representatives in the UK
i just want to know which ulama the brother cited when he said it is ok to have a pic which is not recognisable at normal distance.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:25 PM   #12
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i just want to know which ulama the brother cited when he said it is ok to have a pic which is not recognisable at normal distance.
Assalamu alaykum

My local Aalim. normally I ask for rulings from ulema who give fatwa of permissible or non-permissible. Not from ulema who think of highest taqwa while giving ruling.

I have followed a simple advice from your elders. Look for taqwa when it is for yourselves, look for permissible when it is in others.

And in practical life I have seen brothers collapsing, these brothers were hardcore in looking for taqwa in others because they were on taqwaa
(why pant below a jubba, why not lungi, why not pajama, why a perforated topi, why a belt in your pant, what about your collar, why no miswak, watching you coming late in fajr etc.). But circumstances changed when they were put to hardships they collapsed and they have to run for cover. Many of them stopped visiting the masjid itself. Because they have to face the people whom they had pricked.

Secondly this type of behavior made things easy for the salafees.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:29 PM   #13
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Assalamu alaykum

My local Aalim. normally I ask for rulings from ulema who give fatwa of permissible or non-permissible. Not from ulema who think of highest taqwa while giving ruling.

I have followed a simple advice from your elders. Look for taqwa when it is for yourselves, look for permissible when it is in others.

And in practical life I have seen brothers collapsing, these brothers were hardcore in looking for taqwa in others because they were on taqwaa
(why pant below a jubba, why not lungi, why not pajama, why a perforated topi, why a belt in your pant, what about your collar, why no miswak, watching you coming late in fajr etc.). But circumstances changed when they were put to hardships they collapsed and they have to run for cover. Many of them stopped visiting the masjid itself. Because they have to face the people whom they had pricked.

Secondly this type of behavior made things easy for the salafees.
i see.

so according to your local alim, this stamp is not allowed as the image can be clearly seen at a normal distance.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:30 PM   #14
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i see.

so according to your local alim, this stamp is not allowed as the image can be clearly seen at a normal distance.
Fix a stamp on paper of a letter size. keep at a distance of 3 to 4 feet. Not on computer.
And I shall not unnecessary make a photograph of a stamp size. That is for me.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:35 PM   #15
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Fix a stamp on paper of a letter size. keep at a distance of 3 to 4 feet. Not on computer.
the pic i posted is a scan of the stamp and is a normal stamp size. due to it being a scan there will have been some loss of quality. yet it can clearly be seen.

3 to 4 feet distance would not be normal distance viewing for the stamp. stamps, as you said, are usually on an envelope, and the normal viewing distance of an envelope is when its in your hands, which would make it a normal viewing distance of 0.5 to 1 foot.

even the scanned reproduction can be comfortably seen at a distance of 1 foot. a real stamp would be even easier to see at a distance of 1 foot.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:38 PM   #16
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the pic i posted is a scan of the stamp and is a normal stamp size. due to it being a scan there will have been some loss of quality. yet it can clearly be seen.

3 to 4 feet distance would not be normal distance viewing for the stamp. stamps, as you said, are usually on an envelope, and the normal viewing distance of an envelope is when its in your hands, which would make it a normal viewing distance of 0.5 to 1 foot.

even the scanned reproduction can be comfortably seen at a distance of 1 foot. a real stamp would be even easier to see at a distance of 1 foot.
I repeat, Do the exercise of fixing a stamp on paper then let us come back. There is difference between scan and a real stamp.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:44 PM   #17
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I repeat, Do the exercise of fixing a stamp on paper then let us come back. There is difference between scan and a real stamp.
the difference is deterioration of quality. the actual stamp would be even more clear and easier to see.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:22 PM   #18
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the difference is deterioration of quality. the actual stamp would be even more clear and easier to see.
When a coin or paper currency falls from your pocket while you are praying salah, it does not invalidate your salah. Because, if you are standing and the currency is on the ground; with that distance the face is not very much visible.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:27 PM   #19
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When a coin or paper currency falls from your pocket while you are praying salah, it does not invalidate your salah. Because, if you are standing and the currency is on the ground; with that distance the face is not very much visible.


what has this got to do with the stamp?
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:28 PM   #20
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Shaikhul Islam Hazrat Moulana Husain Ahmad Madani (Rahmatullahi Alaih)

“I never ever had my photo taken knowingly and voluntarily. That takes place when I am unaware, and I do not consider it permissible. Those who do that [i.e. take other peoples’ pictures] are responsible for their actions.”

(Ma’aarif wa Haqaaiq, 380)


rulings from other deobandi ulama here
http://www.thejamiat.co.za/index.php...tid=34:general
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