[layevymed]

I'm guessing but since all his dawah activity was inspired by the late Ahmed Deedat (who always wore a tie-less suit) he is copying him in dress (and lecture content). Most of the other speakers on his Peace TV station wear a more typical Islamic style dress. Not a criticism of ZN just an observation!

[Anavaralo]

I'm guessing but since all his dawah activity was inspired by the late Ahmed Deedat (who always wore a tie-less suit) he is copying him in dress (and lecture content). Most of the other speakers on his Peace TV station wear a more typical Islamic style dress. Not a criticism of ZN just an observation!

Seriously,

Is there a problem?

[Diandaplaipsy]

Maybe it is because he is seeking to reach beyond the Muslims.

sunnah clothes tend to close the ears of non-Muslims and westernized Muslims, but they are conditioned to respect people in suits.

However it would be nice to see him in a thobe or salwar khamise occasionally too?

[RalfDweflywex]

Maybe it is because he is seeking to reach beyond the Muslims.

sunnah clothes tend to close the ears of non-Muslims and westernized Muslims, but they are conditioned to respect people in suits.

However it would be nice to see him in a thobe or salwar khamise occasionally too?

Where in the Quran did it say its haram to wear suits?

[Niobaralegra]

Where in the Quran did it say its haram to wear suits?

is the shariah limited to the quran?

regardless most contemporary ulema do not hold it to be haram.

however wearing western style clothing is a departure from the sunnah. but it's not like don't do the same thing when i wear western clothes when i go to university.

one of the notions in India afghanistan pakistan is that ties are a symbol of the cross and that is why they are haram. however this notion has been refuted. but if someone beleives it to be a cross and thus haram, there is no point stirring up trouble and maling them accept that it isn't.

Personally i choose not to wear a tie and always wear a suit, when required, without one, I choose not to do so because culturally pashtuns look down upon them. it's viewed as putting yourself in bondage to the english. that's why i avoid it.

[duceswild]

is the shariah limited to the quran?

regardless most contemporary ulema do not hold it to be haram.

however wearing western style clothing is a departure from the sunnah. but it's not like don't do the same thing when i wear western clothes when i go to university.

one of the notions in India afghanistan pakistan is that ties are a symbol of the cross and that is why they are haram. however this notion has been refuted. but if someone beleives it to be a cross and thus haram, there is no point stirring up trouble and maling them accept that it isn't.

Personally i choose not to wear a tie and always wear a suit, when required, without one, I choose not to do so because culturally pashtuns look down upon them. it's viewed as putting yourself in bondage to the english. that's why i avoid it.

Good for you. Its your life and your choice.

[67Irralphaisa]

Actually I once came across a video on YouTube where in one of Zakir Naik's huge gatherings where he's taking questions on stage, one brother (I think it was in Pakistan) asked him why he always wears a suit. Zakir Naik replied saying something to the effect of that it helps when he goes into 'dawah grounds', and then he explained that it is not haram to wear a suit, etc, and that it's up to the Muslim if they feel comfortable wearing one then there is no harm in it, but if they don't like it then they don't have to wear it (that's what he said, I am not saying that is my opinion).

So yeah, from what he said, it would seem that he wears it to make it easier when making dawah to non-muslims and what not.

Allah knows best.

[leahjhburton]

Where in the Quran did it say its haram to wear suits?

Who said the Qur'an said that it was haram to wear a suit? Your question is strange and not relevant to anything I have said.

However, the Sunnah clothes are and always will be superior to the western clothes like suits (clothes which have only become permissible to Muslims due to their widespread adoption by Muslims).

In general the Prophet (saws) spoke strongly on the issue of Muslims imitating the disbelievers and he warned that “whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Abu Dawood 4031) therefore Muslims should be careful in this matter.

[Worseacar]

P.S.

Just YouTube "Zakir Naik tie" and you will find a few videos where he talks about this.

[affewheillMapew]

Someone forwarded me a mail on safety Hazards of neck tie.. thought i would share..

Health and safety hazards of Neck Tie

Necktie opponents cite risks of wearing a necktie as argument for discontinuing it. Their cited risks are entanglement, infection, and vasoconstriction. Entanglement is a risk when working with machinery or dangerous, possibly violent jobs such as policemen and prison guards, and certain medical fields.[11]

The answer is to avoid wearing neckties, or to wear pre-knotted neckties that easily detach from the wearer when grabbed; vascular constriction occurs with over-tight collars. Studies have shown increased intraocular pressure in such cases, which can aggravate the condition of people with weakened retinas.[12]

There may be additional risks for people with glaucoma. Sensible precautions can mitigate the risk. Paramedics performing life support remove an injured man's necktie as a first step to ensure it does not block his airway. Neckties might also be a health risk for persons other than the wearer. They are believed to be major vectors in disease transmission in hospitals.

Notwithstanding such fears, doctors and dentists wear neckties for a professional image. Hospitals take seriously the cross-infection of patients by doctors wearing infected neckties,[13] because neckties are less frequently cleaned than most other clothes.

On 17 September 2007, British hospitals published rules banning neckties.[14]In the UK it is a popular prank to pull someone's tie so that it tightens, this prank, known as peanuting, is often used to embarrass the victim but may, more rarely, be used as a form of bullying. In March 2008, a 13 year old boy from Oxted in Surrey was rushed into hospital with spinal injuries after being 'peanuted'. He was kept in hospital for 3 days.[15]

References:-

^ Kuhn, W. (January). ""Violence in the emergency department: Managing aggressive patients in a high-stress environment"". Postgraduate Medicine 105 (1): 143–148. PMID 9924500. http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/1999/01_99/kuhn.htm. Retrieved 2006-06-08.

^ Teng, C; R Gurses-Ozden, J M Liebmann, C Tello, and R Ritch (August 2003). ""Effect of a tight necktie on intraocular pressure"". British Journal of Ophthalmology 87 (8): 946–948. doi:10.1136/bjo.87.8.946. PMID 12881330. http://bjo.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/87/8/946. Retrieved 2006-06-08.

^ Nurkin, Steven; Carl Urban, Ed Mangini, Norielle Mariano, Louise Grenner, James Maurer, Edmond Sabo, James Rahal (May 2004). ""Is the Clinicians' Necktie a Potential Fomite for Hospital Acquired Infections?"". Paper presented at the 104th General Meeting of the American Society for Microbiology May 23–May 27, 2004, New Orleans, Louisiana. pp. 204.

^ Satter, Raphael; Lindsey Tanner (17 September 2007). "U.K. Hospitals Issue Doctors' Dress Code". http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070918/D8RNKDPG0.html. Retrieved 2007-09-19.

wa assalam..

[viagra-kaufen]

The Khaleej countries have retained a semblance of self identity which the rest of the Muslim world could capitalize on and grow with.
In formal settings, such as business, political events, court hearings, weddings, a business suit meets the standard as does national dress: ghutra, dishdasha for men, abaya and sheila for women. Thus, Khaleeji national attire is equal to a business suit here.

In countries like Egypt, Algeria, Syria: there is NO national dress, rather the suit ( a European suit) is the only formal attire for all settings. This reflects very poorly on the Muslim world. The business suit IS a Western invention. It is NOT born of Islamic culture. It was originally a matter of colonization and assimilation to colonial culture to outlaw Islamic attire and enforce Western attire in all formal settings, indeed in public.

I recently spoke with an Egyptian friend of mine about this: now that a Muslim is president of Egypt, what did he think about Egypt adopting a national dress like khaleejis do?
He did not think it likely or even conceivable. But I consider that a result of his unwillingness to think beyond the confines of 100 years of Egyptian capitulation to Western culture and the subsequent inferiority complex which has emerged towards outward, physical manifestation of Islamic identity, from beards to attire.


Egyptian president Mursi should invoke new standards for Egypt which ties it Islam, Islamic identity: an Egyptian national attire of a dishdasha. It would serve to unite the common man who wears dishdasha with the president. That would be a gradual step towards reclaiming Islamic identity and acknowledging inferiority complex and contempt.

[Ygxejxox]

An under-current issue I am constantly seeing among the Muslim community actively engaged in dawah work whether it be dawah to non practicing Muslims or dawah to non Muslims (especially when dealing with youth) is leniency, how lenient do we become when giving dawah? Do we take the most lenient taqwa fiqhi position ourselves just so that we can attract the crowd or do we keep ourselves on our position but use wisdom with the audiance? What was the dawah method of Huzoor salallahu alayhi wa sallam and what were his instructions to his governor appointees in the different lands he sent them to? Did he tell them "look Muaz, look so and so, in order to give dawah in the area you are going youre going to have to dress like the people act and look like the people then give dawah and build them up to how you are now." or did he say, "First call the people to belief in Allah, then call the people to salaah, then call the people to zakaah....etc" gradually building the practicing capacity of the public?

I think when buzrughs of the common dawat and tabligh format we have today sat down to make the usool of the work of dawat they never had the approach of taking the daee off of a'maal and then give dawah but rather they wanted the daee himself to first be out in the path of Allah swt leave his home stay in masjid environment, meaning, be actively engaged in a'maal and then give dawah.

[Adwetyren]

I'm not sure whether wearing a suit is "less Islamic" than wearing a "shalwaar kameez" for an Indo-Pak Muslim as shalwaar kameez comes from a non-Muslim culture too - Hindus. In fact the Qur'an in sura Yusuf mentions a shirt Hadhrat Yusuf was wearing so it looks like a shirt was the norm?

Is not the idea basically modest dress - provided Western dress / suit is loose, covers the 'awrah and (as Hamza Yusuf said in a lecture that Western clothing is tight around the privates) does not define the private region - any culture's "dress" is OK? Why do many Muslims eat Indian curry because you are then copying Hindu culture?

Back to my original question - it would be nice if ZN could on the odd special occasion wear something different just like many "scholars". Anyway come to think of it Tariq Ramadan always wears Western suits as well!

[Binuilienzync]

I'm not sure whether wearing a suit is "less Islamic" than wearing a "shalwaar kameez" for an Indo-Pak Muslim as shalwaar kameez comes from a non-Muslim culture too - Hindus. In fact the Qur'an in sura Yusuf mentions a shirt Hadhrat Yusuf was wearing so it looks like a shirt was the norm?

Is not the idea basically modest dress - provided Western dress / suit is loose, covers the 'awrah and (as Hamza Yusuf said in a lecture that Western clothing is tight around the privates) does not define the private region - any culture's "dress" is OK? Why do many Muslims eat Indian curry because you are then copying Hindu culture?
Back to my original question - it would be nice if ZN could on the odd special occasion wear something different just like many "scholars". Anyway come to think of it Tariq Ramadan always wears Western suits as well!

Indian Muslims donot wear Idli sambar on thier necks to promote hindu culture.. they may eat curry in India and Sheesh taouk in Iran.. and still remain Muslims..

the point is WHY a western suit while engaged in dawah work.. when wearing that to a western gathering u have already submitted that..
" hey.. im hear to give u a custom made cut piece deen.. chose what is palatable and throw what hits on the nafs.. my concept of deen is for the cultural elite who would happily take it from a Dr John and belittle a Mullaji who speaks from the pulpit.." and sadly this has become the attitude of many youtube Mureedin..


wa assalam..

[Hetgvwic]

I'm not sure whether wearing a suit is "less Islamic" than wearing a "shalwaar kameez" for an Indo-Pak Muslim as shalwaar kameez comes from a non-Muslim culture too - Hindus. In fact the Qur'an in sura Yusuf mentions a shirt Hadhrat Yusuf was wearing so it looks like a shirt was the norm?

Is not the idea basically modest dress - provided Western dress / suit is loose, covers the 'awrah and (as Hamza Yusuf said in a lecture that Western clothing is tight around the privates) does not define the private region - any culture's "dress" is OK? Why do many Muslims eat Indian curry because you are then copying Hindu culture?

Back to my original question - it would be nice if ZN could on the odd special occasion wear something different just like many "scholars". Anyway come to think of it Tariq Ramadan always wears Western suits as well!

Sister Husnaa, we have been hearing Zakir Naik i guess way before he came in the lime-light.

I am not sure, however want a confirmation upon the fact that off-late he has abondoned the tie and started wearing Sherwani in all of his talks. This change may be a result of some dialog our scholars around his area are trying to have with him.

When he used to wear a tie, he also gave some theory that Tie was an Islamic dress. This shook me off my chair . Then; as he was explaining he said which more or less meant "if resemblance is what matters, then salwar / kameez looks more like the christian cross" thus we should not wear that.

Upon your quote that salwar kameez is a hindu attiare, I hardly see any hindu wear shalwar kameez, what they may rarely wear is a Kurta / Kurti.

May be Mufti Saheb can help us regarding a quote I heard from my Grandfather, that the prophet was presented shalwar / kameez or something close to that by Iran and he did not wear it but praised the dress and said that it was a good becoz it covers / hides the body well.

[ManituIKOL]

.. they may eat curry in India and Sheesh taouk in Iran.. and still remain Muslims..

Looks beautiful.

[Broorbbub]

Assalamu alaykum

Let us analyze the results:

Dawah with "jaisa desh waisa bhes" (you be a roman when you are in rome)

Dawah with sunnah.

Let us collect the results (I mean results, not who were your receivers).

I can say that the contributions towards deen are exponentially higher with sunnah culture.

But publicity through media is higher in "jaisa desh waisa bhes". Our collection of information is only through TVs.

But I don't criticize ZN for the culture he follows. There is a saying "jaisee praja waisa raja", (the king reflects the public). The people around him, I mean the sponsors, the audience feel it hurts; (it hurts them or the dawah) if they follow the sunnah culture.

I heard a lecture given by ZN claiming the suit with tie is the culture started by Spanish Muslims............ (Is it sunnah to follow the spanish muslims?)

One of his followers was claiming that if Rasulullah SAS would have been alive today he too would have been wearing the western dress!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laa haula wala quwwata illa billah!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Shemker394]

Assalamu alaykum

And this for them who are really serious about sunnah of Rasulullah SAS


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In Madinah Munawwarah even now a teacher, SHIEKH ABU BAKAR JABER AL-JAZA-IRI, is present in whose Hadith lecturers nearly four hundred Arab scholars used to present themselves-the teaching circle would be held between Maghrib and Isha prayers.



MOULANA ABDUL HALEEM SAHAB jodhpuri (rh) heard the following (his letter is present with me)in that circle, he said that (one day) he came for the lecture, opened the book and soon got overwhelmed by hick-ups (of crying).

The crowd was looking at him with surprise. Shaikh today you are rather overwhelmed, they said. His eyes were already swollen and rather than starting the lecture his again went into weeping with hick ups. After that he closed the book and came to the courtyard of Maslid-e-Nabwi and made the announcement that today I saw a dream.

In the dream I saw a grave in the courtyard of Masjid-e-Nabwi and it is open and there is the restlessness of changing sides in the grave. I was puzzled as to why a person is changing sides in the grave-in that life after death. Immediately I heard a voice that to the pious we life and to the doers of good deeds Allah(SWT)'s dealing is of the highest level.

If this is the dealing of Allah(SWT) with the pious then what will be His dealing with the leader of the pious Muhammed Rasoolallah ? When I raised my eyes I got the glimpse of the Leader . He is strolling from his chambers towards Bab-us-Salam. I thought of presenting my Salam in the service of the Leader . I went behind him with cautious steps.

(The whole gathering is listening in Masjid-e-Nabwi and the teacher of the times of Hadith is narrating his dream.)

He continued-when I reached near him he sat on a stone chair that I saw near Bab-us-Salam. I presented my Salam with courtesy and Rasoolallah answered my Salam. I said O Prophet of Allah kindly supplicate for the Ummah. When I said this then the Leader's expression changed and he took his forehead in his palm. When he raised his blessed face an Egyptian youth, completely engrossed in European culture, was passing by. He looked at him with disgust and asked should I supplicate for such an Ummah? Then he continued that you people have given me lots of pain and you have made me restless. I feel like migrating to India.

The Shaikh said , at this, a sharp shriek escaped me. 'O beloved Leader if you go away then what will remain in Madinah. I woke up with the same shriek and since then I am crying. I am saying this same to you also, tell me what is there so special in India that our Leader wants to go there? If it is there then it is Dawat-il-Allah that people are in Allah's path with their beds on their heads and they have left their wives and children behind them. You traveled to USA for enjoyment, you traveled to Paris but you did not make the pain of Rasoolallah your own pain. Then what else do you want to do?

Thus the Shaikh cried himself and made others also cry and with this the courtyard resonated with hick ups. After that he said that promise to me that you'll make Dawat-il-Allah your object of life and you'll work for this.

Friends Allah(SWT) is helping this effort with unseen helps. So be active in this till your death.

[Marinausa]

Looks beautiful.

Tastes good too.. along with Kebab Koobideh.. Chelow Kebab..etc.. i normally order a mushakkal (mixed Grill) at this haunt.. one more reason not to bomb iran..

[Tndfpcin]

I Just Seen Him In Masjid Haram After Asr Salah Which Was Led By Sheikh Maher Al Muayqili On Sunday Before He Walked In To The ZamZam Towers. I May Not Be One That Watches His Videos However I Recognised Him Because Of His Hat. He Was Wearing A Kafni.