LOGO
Reply to Thread New Thread
Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #21
Frierlovene

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
458
Senior Member
Default
I understand about the perfume bit though some sisters should also take care not to smell of food either... but beautiful clothes? melodramatic much? No one here wears beautiful clothes all the sisters wear jilbab or an abaya to the masjid.
not sure where you are...but i have personally seen a sister enter the masjid in a mini skirt
Frierlovene is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #22
trettegeani

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
466
Senior Member
Default
Brother AbuZaid I prefer praying in the comfort of my home actually that way 8 dont have to jostle for space ...plus in the summer months like now and considering UK hasnt discovered such a thing as ACs it is quite unbearable. But for Ramadan and Eid it is a must for me. thank goodness for the welcoming masajid that make space to accommodate sisters, and alhamdullilah desi masajid are also catching up.
trettegeani is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #23
bgsavings

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
410
Senior Member
Default
not sure where you are...but i have personally seen a sister enter the masjid in a mini skirt
And so because of that one sister you believe women shouldn't attend? Why are you generalising?
bgsavings is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #24
pertikuss

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
383
Senior Member
Default
The anecdote is old, but certainly not cold. It exemplifies exactly how we make our decision in most of these issues. Whether it is wearing niqab, going to masajid, keeping beard, or even being good to one's wife. It all boils down to... who's worth is more?

--

Maulana Jalaluddeen Rumi (Rahmatullah ‘alaih) mentions in his Mathnavi, a story of Sultan Mahmood : One day the Sultan decided to test his ministers and ordered them to crush the most prized pearl of his treasury. One by one, each of 65 ministers declined, stating that the pearl was far too valuable to be destroyed.

The King then summoned his closest and trusted courtier, Ayaaz, and ordered him to crush the pearl. Without any delay or hesitation, Ayaaz crushed the pearl into fragments. When the ministers expressed disbelief and shock at such audacity, the King asked Ayaaz to inform them as to the reason for him having broken the pearl.

In response, Ayaaz asked these ministers : “ Which is more important, the Royal Decree or the pearl ? ”

The question we pose to ourselves is : “ Which is more important, the command of my Allah or the desire of my heart ?”

The desires of the heart are akin to pearls, which appear to be quite beautiful but we should not fulfil these desires at the cost of breaking the decrees of Allah Ta’ala.

Ayaaz attained closeness to the king through his loyalty and faithfulness and his obedience and submission. Similarly, we will gain the extreme nearness and intimate closeness to the King of Kings through loyalty and faithfulness. This in turn is dependent upon sincere obedience and complete submission to His decrees.

--
pertikuss is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #25
Unamannuato

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
365
Senior Member
Default
And so because of that one sister you believe women shouldn't attend? Why are you generalising?
I am not saying they shouldn't attend...i too think that deobandi mosques should have a small section for those women who need to pray and are not at home at the time of prayer...but at the same time i understand why they have deemed it as mukruh

I go to the masjid often as im not at home for prayer time, it is a regular thing for non-hijabis to enter the masjid, or we have hijaabis who are wearing tight jeans and other inappropriate clothing...just the other day i saw a sister perfuming herself inside the masjid...the masjid also has the same entrance and exit for men and women...after jummah there is a whole crowd of men outside and women must pass through them
Unamannuato is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #26
pXss8cyx

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
471
Senior Member
Default
And so because of that one sister you believe women shouldn't attend? Why are you generalising?
Please use the SF search function. the issue has already been dicussed many many times. No need to go back and forth ...
pXss8cyx is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #27
erelvenewmeva

Join Date
Nov 2005
Posts
540
Senior Member
Default
2012 we cant even agree on small issue such as this

seriously?
erelvenewmeva is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #28
dodsCooggipsedebt

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
461
Senior Member
Default
2012 we cant even agree on small issue such as this

seriously?
You think that a community of Muslims made up of 1 billion people globally are all going to agree on everything? Impossible.
dodsCooggipsedebt is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #29
spacecrafty

Join Date
Nov 2005
Posts
544
Senior Member
Default
I understand about the perfume bit though some sisters should also take care not to smell of food either... but beautiful clothes? melodramatic much? No one here wears beautiful clothes all the sisters wear jilbab or an abaya to the masjid.
assalamu alykum sister Idil

women going to mosque have been dealt with many times over and been proven to you that its not liked and discouraged by many sahaba's per according to wishes of Beloved Rassolulah sallalahu alyhi wassalam.
spacecrafty is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #30
11Pecepebra

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
412
Senior Member
Default
In many parts of the west the imams of the masajid are paving the way for the women to enter and make salaah or "get involved" in masjid activities.
Fund raising and other activities,

Even in masjid you need to guard your gazes . People are becoming so modern.
11Pecepebra is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #31
inmeirulez

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
489
Senior Member
Default
I understand about the perfume bit though some sisters should also take care not to smell of food either... but beautiful clothes? melodramatic much? No one here wears beautiful clothes all the sisters wear jilbab or an abaya to the masjid.
Sorry to say this sister,
In India, I used to respect women with hijab, even if they wear Salwar/Saree and cover their heads.
In US, because of the fancy colored dresses, fancy hijabs which is attracting people. this is the creativity of Shaitaan.
I am not going to masjid nowadays when girls come. Its better for them to pray at home , wearing all fancy colors...etc etc
inmeirulez is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #32
DenisLevvin

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
524
Senior Member
Default
why would women want to pray in the mosque when it is more rewarding to pray at home?

i can understand if she is traveling or out of the house and salaat time would end if she were to try to go home to pray.

to me it just seems to be to fulfill the nafs.
DenisLevvin is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #33
Creelaleps

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
356
Senior Member
Default
why would women want to pray in the mosque when it is more rewarding to pray at home?

i can understand if she is traveling or out of the house and salaat time would end if she were to try to go home to pray.

to me it just seems to be to fulfill the nafs.
I agree to it. IF you tell this even the male ll come and argue to you, that in a country like AMERICA you need this kind of things.
These ppl didnt come to spread/preserve deen, instead they came to earn money in Dollars. So lets ignore these males.

Whenever I go for Salah in the masjid, I see ladies moving here and there. Masha Allah, brothers are bringing their wives for Fajr too and decreasing their rewards.

In few masjids, girls do Qiyam.
Inna lillahi...
Creelaleps is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #34
pseusawbappem

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
472
Senior Member
Default
i understand about women praying at home in their own town etc but when in makkah madinah i feel like Allah had given me this great opportunity to be here and why not make the most of it and pray in the haram, and its so beautiful etc. if we don't wear fancy colors and just wear simple abaya then that is ok right? i feel like the haram is only 5/10 minutes away so rather pray there...
pseusawbappem is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #35
Aqgkvwzm

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
482
Senior Member
Default
why would women want to pray in the mosque when it is more rewarding to pray at home?

i can understand if she is traveling or out of the house and salaat time would end if she were to try to go home to pray.

to me it just seems to be to fulfill the nafs.
For regular prayers I agree, but it's difficult to pray taraweeh alone.
Aqgkvwzm is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #36
ArrereGarhync

Join Date
Nov 2005
Posts
416
Senior Member
Default
@ brother abuhajira

Where is the best place for women to pray when on umrah/hajj?
ArrereGarhync is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #37
Flirigor

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
402
Senior Member
Default
why would women want to pray in the mosque when it is more rewarding to pray at home?

i can understand if she is traveling or out of the house and salaat time would end if she were to try to go home to pray.

to me it just seems to be to fulfill the nafs.
But our Masajid / the People who run them are so extreme in this matter thAt we don't allow women to pray in the Masjid even when there is a need. We don't even provide a facility for them
Flirigor is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #38
Kuncher

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
507
Senior Member
Default
not sure where you are...but i have personally seen a sister enter the masjid in a mini skirt
Without getting into the fiqh, If I saw this I'd say alhamdulillah that Allah has given her the tawfeeq to come to the Mosque! Do you really think such a woman would have thought of Allah swt at her house? In fact would she have even stayed in at her house at taraweeh/salah time?

The Mosque is at fault if it's not providing a separate entrance or asking the men to wait so the women can leave first, as the Prophet pbuh did.
Kuncher is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #39
Reftsheette

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
529
Senior Member
Default
why would women want to pray in the mosque when it is more rewarding to pray at home?

i can understand if she is traveling or out of the house and salaat time would end if she were to try to go home to pray.

to me it just seems to be to fulfill the nafs.
Reasons differ, but a few:

1. Taraweeh at home will take 20 min with the last 10 surahs. Taraweeh at the masjid will mean having heard the whole Quran as well as daily chance to do du'a with imam. It's the same as why you go to the Mosque for taraweeh instead of praying at home. Why do you pray taraweeh in jamaa'ah? The Prophet SAW didn't and jamaa'ah is optional.

2. Some people can't pray taraweeh at home. Full stop. I'm sure men can relate to this too.

3. Some women are afraid to stay at home alone late at night. So they join their husbands.

4. The Mosque is the house of Allah. There is sukoon & Barakah there that is rarely found elsewhere.

Women that come and stand 2 hours in taraweeh instead of 20 min max at home on their own, are NOT doing it for their 'nafs', they are doing it to seek Allah's pleasure, love and forgiveness. just think about it.

Ask your women folk whether when they go to Saudi (if they've been) how they'd feel about praying in the hotel instead of in haram ...
Reftsheette is offline


Old 09-03-2012, 11:22 PM   #40
juspimoubbodo

Join Date
Nov 2005
Posts
372
Senior Member
Default
Reasons differ, but a few:

1. Taraweeh at home will take 20 min with the last 10 surahs. Taraweeh at the masjid will mean having heard the whole Quran as well as daily chance to do du'a with imam. It's the same as why you go to the Mosque for taraweeh instead of praying at home. Why do you pray taraweeh in jamaa'ah? The Prophet SAW didn't and jamaa'ah is optional.

2. Some people can't pray taraweeh at home. Full stop. I'm sure men can relate to this too.

3. Some women are afraid to stay at home alone late at night. So they join their husbands.

4. The Mosque is the house of Allah. There is sukoon & Barakah there that is rarely found elsewhere.

Women that come and stand 2 hours in taraweeh instead of 20 min max at home on their own, are NOT doing it for their 'nafs', they are doing it to seek Allah's pleasure, love and forgiveness. just think about it.

Ask your women folk whether when they go to Saudi (if they've been) how they'd feel about praying in the hotel instead of in haram ...
+1 .. We need to give women their rights, Islam has provided evrything for women. But we men don't implement it at these times.
If my women wants to go to the mosque, I hae no right to stop her! If she wants to help around in the mosque, who am I to stop her? Specially if I don't help around in the mosque? Why stop her from being pious just because I can't be?
juspimoubbodo is offline



Reply to Thread New Thread

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:09 AM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Design & Developed by Amodity.com
Copyright© Amodity