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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #21
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can you explain why hizb us shaytaan and IRG are fighting in syria alongside bashar ul assad? or do you think bashar ul assad has the right to slaughter all those innocent people? why are shiahs supporting the wrong done by people of similar sect? is this not sectarianism?

you quote from presstv, which is rubbish. have you visited Golan heights? if not how can you comment upon assad-israel relations?
And you are talking American rubbish. If the pilgrims captures in Syria were the members of Hizbollah or IRGC, the so called pro-western fighters should have kept them alive and present in the international media. This is just baseless.

I am quoting from presstv. So, is it the fabrication of presstv? Do you want me to present the links from the other than presstv?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #22
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And you are talking American rubbish. If the pilgrims captures in Syria were the members of Hizbollah or IRGC, the so called pro-western fighters should have kept them alive and present in the international media. This is just baseless.

I am quoting from presstv. So, is it the fabrication of presstv? Do you want me to present the links from the other than presstv?
pilgrims?
son i have videos showing hizb us shaytaan fighters and their tanks inside syria. they werent captured they were fighting.

go ahead. show me why on earth would israel not want assad to stay.
remember: nothing from hypocrite american media.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #23
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UK Offers More Nonlethal Aid to Syria's Opposition
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ebels-16975419

Obama Promises American Support for Syria Opposition
http://www.democracychronicles.com/o...ia-opposition/

Moreover, did you forget the UN resolutions presented by US, UK in the UN that vetoed by Russia and China ???
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #24
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pilgrims?
son i have videos showing hizb us shaytaan fighters and their tanks inside syria. they werent captured they were fighting.

go ahead. show me why on earth would israel not want assad to stay.
remember: nothing from hypocrite american media.
Because Bashar's government is in strong oppositon with Israel and supports Hamas, Hezbollah and other resistance movements against Israel.

OK show me the videos.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #25
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pilgrims?
son i have videos showing hizb us shaytaan fighters and their tanks inside syria. they werent captured they were fighting.
Had this happened (Hezbollah or IRGC fighters had been captured inside syria) the US and west hadn't spare a minute to unfold them in the international media. Show me where this came in any of the prominent media with proofs. Not just a baseless allegations.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #26
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Because Bashar's government is in strong oppositon with Israel and supports Hamas, Hezbollah and other resistance movements against Israel.

OK show me the videos.
"Technically, the two countries have been in a state of war since 1948. Israel also continues to occupy the Golan Heights, Syrian territory which it captured in 1967 and later annexed, in a move that is not internationally recognised.

Yet under President Bashar al-Assad, there has been a long-standing truce and for the past 40 years the border between the two countries has been relatively calm."
from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19017502

also see this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights

not exactly strong opposition is there?

here are two videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO_-Q_B5MCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBTKc...eature=related

i will post the tank and hizb ush shaytaan marching video too when i find it. its from july.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #27
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here are two videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO_-Q_B5MCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBTKc...eature=related

i will post the tank and hizb ush shaytaan marching video too when i find it. its from july.
Very ridiculous. Is this your proof against Hezbollah actually have fighters in Syria ?????? !!!!,

If so, it shows the weakness of your belief. Anyone, can made and upload this type of video over the youtube. And you want the world to believe blindly over it. Alas.

I asked for genuine and strong proofs, my elder brother.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #28
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//Because Bashar's government is in strong oppositon with Israel and supports Hamas, Hezbollah and other resistance movements against Israel.//

Big comedy, why he is killing innocents...

Shia unity thread??
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #29
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"Technically, the two countries have been in a state of war since 1948. Israel also continues to occupy the Golan Heights, Syrian territory which it captured in 1967 and later annexed, in a move that is not internationally recognised.

Yet under President Bashar al-Assad, there has been a long-standing truce and for the past 40 years the border between the two countries has been relatively calm."
from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19017502

also see this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights

not exactly strong opposition is there?
This is why Israel is helping Syrian rebels

Israeli MP: Syrian Rebels Want to Be Friends With Israel
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/02/29/i...s-with-israel/
Israeli MP Isaac Herzog, a member of the powerful Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, says that he has been contacted by members of Syria’s opposition who have assured him that they “want to be friends” with Israel.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #30
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//Because Bashar's government is in strong oppositon with Israel and supports Hamas, Hezbollah and other resistance movements against Israel.//

Big comedy, why he is killing innocents...

Shia unity thread??
So, do you think any government should not fight armed rebellion in the country. Is this what you expect from Bashar. He is just fighting the armed rebels. Can you tell me if the Bashar killed his people innocently before the starting of the armed rebellion.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #31
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If the Syrian civil war
- is really between the ordinary people of Syria and the Bashar's Government; and;
- the opposition is of true Islamic nature
then:

1) Why US, West and Israel and constantly supporting Syrian opposition parties, provided the history of arrogance of US is to always suppress the Islamic movements by all possible means?
[...]
(also just Google US and Israel support for Syrian rebels)

The hypocrite America just supports the hypocrite ones among the Muslim Ummah. In fact, the so called syrian opposition could never be in the favor of Islam and Muslim Ummah ... Ya Ulil Absaar ........... !
The opposition is not only islamic and like in Tunisia, Lybia and Egypt previously, there is many groups, some of them Islamic, some of them leftist, some of them Nationalist etc.

Let's me ask you a reverse question : if a kuffar start having a common interest with you... will you stop give attention to this interest because he is a kafir ?

Yes, the US and the West and Israel could consider it as an opportunity for them. Like the 1st Afghanistan war was an opportunity for the US to give to the Russians a Viet-Nam-like..


Nevertheless, the atrocities of this regime (and Bashar is just walking in the steps of his dad) is well-known and what they've done against Islam in Syria and the Ulemas and the pious amongst them must be enough for us to support the opposition.


You'll notice that except Shaykh Ramadân Al-Bûti (may Allah forgive his mistakes), many syrians ulemas (from different background) have spoke against the regime :
-The late Mufti of Aleppo, Shaykh Ibrahim As-Salqîni whose death have followed pressions of the regime on him after he criticizes it openly
-Shaykh Kârim Rajih
-Shaykh Usâma Ar-Rifa'î - have been wounded last year (the 27th night of Ramadan...1432) when some armed men entered the masjid Ar-Rifa'î where he preached
-Shaykh Muâdh Al-Khatib (have been a khatib in the Ummayads Mosque)
and many others

Shaykh Muhammad Al-Ya'qubi
Shaykh Muhammad Al-Sabûni, even if he has emigrated to Saudi Arabia since many years

And they're far from being salafi.
(I said this because it's a trend amonst some muslims to chose to not associate with the salafi in every matter even where they're right !)

I've quoted only the names of those scholars which critics of the regime is easy to find on youtube.

The hypocrite America just supports the hypocrite ones among the Muslim Ummah. In fact, the so called syrian opposition could never be in the favor of Islam and Muslim Ummah So, can I ask you, according to yourd standards who are not the hypocrite amongst the Muslim Ummah ? Open our eyes please.


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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #32
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And you are talking American rubbish. If the pilgrims captures in Syria were the members of Hizbollah or IRGC, the so called pro-western fighters should have kept them alive and present in the international media. This is just baseless.

I am quoting from presstv. So, is it the fabrication of presstv? Do you want me to present the links from the other than presstv?
Plenty of gangs of foreign Shiah murderers have been caught and videoed.

Press TV support the Assad tyranny because they don't want Syria to be ruled by the Sunnis and Iran to loose one of its few allies.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #33
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So, do you think any government should not fight armed rebellion in the country. Is this what you expect from Bashar. He is just fighting the armed rebels. Can you tell me if the Bashar killed his people innocently before the starting of the armed rebellion.
This illegitimate and murderous Assad dynasty that has tortured the should grab its belonging and run away to Iran while it still can.

It is banking on being able to keep hold of an enclave at the end of the day.

It is a big gamble as those who do not defect from this regime are going to face a very stern retribution in this life and the next InshaAllah.


Rats jump from a sinking ship - its time for the Baathist and Nusayri Alawite rats to jump while they still can.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #34
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Because Bashar's government is in strong opposition with Israel and supports Hamas, Hezbollah and other resistance movements against Israel.

OK show me the videos.
What a joke Bashar al Assad is a British trained ophthalmologist who dallied with the rich Freemasons of the west during his time here.


All he cares about is himself, his evil family and his evil sect.


Hezbollah are an Iranian puppet and a threat to the safety of Sunnis.


Hamas does not need friends like the Assad family.


The funny thing is that history shows the Nusayri Alawites hate Twelver Shiah like you as well as Sunnis.


Stop supporting a man who orders others to worship him or stop calling yourself a Muslim.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #35
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107 SCHOLAR DENOUNCE THE ASSAD REGIME AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT OR DEFEND IT

THESE SCHOLARS SUPPORT THE SYRIAN REVOLUTIONARIES AND CALL UPON THE MUSLIMS TO SUPPORT THEM

We call for the support and the strengthening of the Free Syrian Army.....

We also call on Muslims and on the free world to support and assist this army in any way possible, materially and morally, in order for it to carry out its mission and to organise its ranks.

It is a duty to support the revolutionaries in Syria in all their material and psychological requirements, so that they can successfully complete their revolution..
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Sheikh Dr. Yusuf Al Qaradawi
Qatar

Sheikh Dr. Ali Jumua
Egypt

Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayya
Mauritania

Sheikh Dr. Rachid Ghanouchi
Tunisia

Sheikh Sadiq Al-Ghiryani
Libya

Sheikh AbdulMajeed Az-Zindani
Yemen

Sheikh Dr. Mahmoud AlMeera
Syria

Dr. Issam Al Basheer
Sudan

Sheikh Dr. Khalid Al Mathkour
Kuwait

Sheikh Nasr Fareed Wasil
Egypt

Dr AbdulWahhab Delami
Yemen

Sheikh Dr. Ali Qurra Daghi
Qatar

Ustadh Dr. Naser Bin Sulayman Al Umar
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Muhammad Farooq Al Batal
Syria

Sheikh Muhammad Ezziddeen Tawfeeq
Morocco

Sheikh Dr. Ahmad Raysooni
Morocco

Ustadh Dr. Saud Al Faneesan
Saudi Arabia

Dr Ajeel Al Nashmi
Kuwait

Ustadh Dr. Muhammad Ahmad As-Saleh
Saudi Arabia

Ustadh Dr. Muhammad Uthman Saleh
Sudan

Ustadh Dr. AlHabr Yusuf
Sudan

Ustadh Dr. Ghaith Mahmoud Al Fakhiri
Libya

Dr. AbdulLateef Al-Mahmoud
Bahrain

Dr. Muhammad Al Huwari
Germany

Dr. Safwat Hijazi
Egypt

Ustadh Dr. AbduRahman AbdulHameed Ahmad Al-Birr
Egypt

Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Mukhtar Al Mahdi
Egypt

Sheikh Muhammad Hassaan
Egypt

Sheikh Abu Ishaaq Al Huwaini
Egypt

Sheikh Majd Ahmad Makki
Syria

Ustadh Dr. Shaker Theeb Fayyadh
Jordan

Ustadh Dr. Sharaf Al Qudhah
Jordan

Ustadh Dr. Ali As-Sawwa
Jordan

Dr. Muhammad Ali Al Juuzu
Lebanon

Sheikh Dr. Ahmad Al Umari
Lebanon

Sheikh Ahmad Qatarji
Lebanon

Sheikh Dr. Hamza Abu Fares
Libya

Ustadh Dr. Tareq As-Suwaidan
Kuwait

Dr. Khaled Al-Ujaimi
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Awadh Al-Qarni
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Ali Badahdah
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Abdullah Wakeel Ash-Sheikh
Saudi Arabia

Dr AbdulMajeed An-Najjar
Tunisia

Dr. Salman Bin Fahd Al-Oadah
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Saeed Bin Naser Al-Ghamdi
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Muhammad Bin Mousa Ash-Shareef
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Muhsin Al Awaji
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Yusuf Ash-Shubaili
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Yahya Ibraheem Al-Yahya
Saudi Arabia

Dr. AbdulAzeez bin Fozan Al-Fozan
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Saleh Ad-Darweesh
Saudi Arabia

Dr. Muhammad Ali Al-Mansouri
UAE

Dr. AbdulHameed Al-Kumaiti Ash-Shamsi
UAE

Dr. Muhammad AbduRazzaq As-Siddeeq
UAE

Dr. Ahmad Saleh Al-Hamdi
UAE

Dr. Jasem Yaseen Al-Muhalhil
Kuwait

Dr. Nabeel Al Awadhi
Kuwait

Dr. Shafi Al Ajami
Kuwait

Dr. Nayyif Al Ajami
Kuwait

Dr. Yusuf As-Sanad
Kuwait

Dr. Badr Ar-Rakhees
Kuwait

Dr. Salem Ash-Shimmari
Kuwait

Dr. Tareq At-Tuwari
Kuwait

Dr. AbdulHayy Yusuf
Sudan

Dr. Ali Al Sallabi
Libya

Dr. Salem Ash-Sheikhi
Libya

Dr. Salem Jabir
Libya

Dr. Usamah Al Sallabi
Libya

Dr. Muhammad Abu Sudra
Libya

Dr. Nader Al Umrani
Libya

Dr. Muhammad Hamdawi
Morocco

Dr. Abdullah Al-Bukhari
Morocco

Dr. AbdulMunim At-Tamsamani
Morocco

Dr. Muhammad Bulouz
Morocco

Dr. Mawlay Umar Bin Hammad
Morocco

Sheikh Abdullah Wild Aal Salim
Mauritania

Sheikh Muhammad Fadhil Wild Muhammad Al Ameen
Mauritania

Sheikh Muhammad Mukhtar Wild Ambalah
Mauritania

Sheikh Muhammad Hassan Ad-Diddo
Mauritania

Dr. Muhammad Al-Ahmari
Qatari

Dr. Saleh Yahya Sawwab
Yemen

Dr. Saleh Abdullah Adh-Dhibyani
Yemen

Dr. Adil Al Maawdah
Bahrain

Dr. Adnan Al-Qattan
Bahrain

Dr. Mamoun Mubayidh
Germany

Dr. Hassaan As-Safadi
Germany

Dr. Mutaz Faisal
Germany

Ustadh Dr. Ahmad Muhammad Zayyid
Egypt

Ustadh Dr. Sameer Al-Arky
Egypt

Dr. Ali Ad-Deenary
Egypt

Dr. Abdullah Hussain Barakat
Egypt

Sheikh AbdulKhaliq Hassan Ash-Shareef
Egypt

Ustadh Dr. Jamal AbduSattar Muhammad
Egypt

Sheikh Ahmad Haleel
Egypt

Dr. Jaber Tayyi Yusuf
Egypt

Ustadh Dr. Salahuddeen Sultan
Egypt

Dr. Nashaat Ahmad Muhammad
Egypt

Dr. Ayman Salah Ahmad Muhammad
Egypt

Dr. Muhammad Yanbou
Egypt

As-Sayyid Jameel Muhammad
Egypt

Dr. Ibraheem Mustafa Abu As-Saud
Egypt

Dr. Faraj AbdulHaleem Qindeel
Egypt

Dr. Al Husaini Mussali As-Sayyid
Egypt

As-Sayyid Mahmoud AbduRahman
Egypt

Dr. Yasir Fath Antar
Egypt

Dr. Ghazi At-Taubah
Kuwait

Sheikh Sulaiman Al Baraheem Ar-Rushoodi
Saudi Arabia

Shaikh Dr. Haitham al-Haddad
United Kingdom
contrary to what has been said there are many highly respected and highly esteemed scholars on here.

Maybe some people only respect Indo-Pak scholars and not the scholars of the Gulf, Egypt and North Africa.

Maybe Azharis, Wahhabies and Malikis don't count in their world.

That said, it would be nice if the Deobandis were louder and clearer in supporting the Sunnis of Syria, rather than just praying for them after Juma prayers.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #36
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And once again it's the West that will come to the rescue the ummah............
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #37
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correct.........
No, I should have said a few hundred Americans in Washington together with their internationalist bankers and masters and the Zionists are the boss.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #38
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And once again it's the West that will come to the rescue the ummah............
Actually, if any real rescue comes, it will be the mujahideen...just like it was in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #39
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And once again it's the West that will come to the rescue the ummah............
if they can get oil deals like in Libya or they do it to weaken the so called Islamists they will try to 'come to the rescue' brother.



the best thing for Syria is if the West do not 'save' them from the Assad regime and they get rid of him with only Muslim support

then they have more freedom to do what they want in the new Syria


if the West get directly involved they will have greater chance of slipping in a misguided secularist regime into power there

it would be better than the current one as it would be a Sunni dominated and less tyrannical regime

but it would likely be one where Islam remained a personal affair and would not guide the country as it should


there are many people who would be willing to try and continue policies of de-Islamization in a post revolution Syria

they may not be torturers but they are just as big enemies of Islam as the Assad regime, just less aggressive.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #40
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Sigh. The so called west means the bankers and ruling class criminals who run things. They create the problems and put tyrants in charge and they bring them down. Muslims should be creating one unified command across the Muslim world.

And once again it's the West that will come to the rescue the ummah............
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