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Old 09-04-2012, 03:22 AM   #1
k5wTvu9f

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Default Where am I on the 'Muslim authenticity score according to deoband?
Where would people schooled and inspired by deobandi views rate me on a "deobandi scale of an ideal Muslim" from 0-10. 0 is according to deobandi wisdom totally errant Muslim and misguided fool versus ten following the salaf and sahaba, tabi'in and great classical Muslim greats.

Many of the below views I have received trouble from alot of Muslims and called liberal, modernist, changing sunnah and Islam e.t.c. Someone basically in conclusion people say I am not worthy of listening opinions too.

These are the things which people find extremely controversial and I basically just feel passive and find the controversy non-existant or non-important.
  1. I believe in the modern nation state for administrative purposes but believe the boundaries are just arbitrary and an Islamic Union needs to be emergently formed.
  2. I believe in modernization aspirations for society - I admire the west for its science/technology, infrastructure, relative lack of corruption, commendable administraion systems including many governmental concepts and nothing else do I see of exciting value. I dont need to talk about things in the west I dislike or am averse too.
  3. I believe in Islamic democracy and am not averse to the idea of laicism in government
  4. I believe health, food and education in basic form are universal priorities which ALL muslims need to be provided with. Following that belief: I believe taxation is justifiable by a nation until the whole Ummah -country joins in a union and nation resources and zakat is distributed across borders.
  5. I believe not all music is haram and it has occassional benefit and feeling good to good music is not haram. I feel I am allowed to dance occassionally also in an appropriate setting.
  6. I believe in free consience based choices rather than forcing strict adherence to law. Law should regulate environment and society but not impose and execute punishments until and unless Islam has enfolded people in spirit like the medina polity. Then Quranic and sahih hadith statutes can be made law.
  7. I believe women should work in society and have an important role to play in both dunya and religious affairs. Men however are more important in that dunya-work aspect. However women can be teachers, doctors and other proffessions of modern day. I interact with such women both Muslims and non-Muslims.
  8. I take and watch videos and photographs. I dont see any wrong in that.
  9. I believe in compromising for unity purposes. Even shia-sunni unity is possible if shia's compromise on two basic mischief - tehreef of quran and cursing sahabas.
  10. I believe in Abrahamic unity. Muslims should look after christian and jews and not hate them and seek their destruction. More unpopularly, I recognize the history of jews both recent and ancient and acknowledege that Palestine/Israel has to be shared with Jews. Jerusalam should be Muslim run though.
  11. I believe milad-un Nabi is unneccessary but perfectly ok.
  12. I believe salafi's are good people, academic but errant in a few subject.
  13. I believe Islamic revival is going at an unprecedent rate.
  14. I think the Turks will lead the Muslim world again this century.
  15. I believe that Harun yahya is a magnificent and the finest Muslim of recent times.
  16. I consider myself fully affiliated to AhlusSunnah Wal Jamah and feel connected to the community enlightened by men like Imam Ghazali, Bediuzzam, Abu Hanifa, Imam Rabbani and all other scholarly gems of Ahlus Sunnah.
  17. I think deobandi ilm and scholarship is very good and tries its best to be true to tradition. Sincerity is unquestionable.
  18. I feel beard's are strongly recommended, an Islamic sunnah, but not an obligation.
  19. I feel women who dont wear hijab should be given benefit of doubt as good Muslims and initial judgement not biased on that factor.
  20. I believe Taliban, al-qaeda, al-shabab are severely flawed Muslims who have got things severely wrong.
  21. I believe only in defensive G!had.
  22. I wear shirt, trouser, belts, t-shirts, jeans. I avoid shorts.
  23. Foremost is that a Union be formed of todays Muslim nations and most problems will start to sort themselves. However no need to change things radically. Just an honest, sincere pledge and pushed by people of the 50 or so Muslim majority nations that we want a strong union of brotherhood and practical economic and societal links and trade.
  24. I believe in everything else - prayer, quran, fasting, zakat, qadr, day of judgement, angels, enjoing good, forbidding evil, all basic morals of Islam, pursuing excellence in character, charity, race for goodness, ilm seeking, following the salaf, excellence of sunnah - miswak, white dress, cleanliness, beard keeping, evil of riba/usury.


SO Where am I on the 'Muslim status according to deoband score? Please reply so that I can look more into these things. Because I feel I have already firmly thought these things and issues.

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