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Old 11-05-2011, 03:24 PM   #1
ArrereGarhync

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http://daledamos.blogspot.com/2011/0...-rest.html?m=1
In The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims, Andrew Bostom provides primary and other sources that document Jihad and the consequences non-Muslims faced. In Part 5: Jihad, Seventh through Eleventh Centures, Bostom quotes from the Atlas of Islamic History, by Harry W. Hazard.

Hazard gives a breakdown of Muslim conquests and occupation.
Here are some of the more salient events:

7th Century:

Europe:
  • Balkans (Constantinople attacked)
  • Daghestan

Mediterranean:
  • Sicily (pillaged by Muslims in 652 and 668)
  • Crete (occupied briefly by Muslims in 674)
  • Rhodes (occupied by Muslims in 672-679)
  • Cyprus

Africa:
  • Morocco and Algeria
  • Tunisia
  • East Africa
  • Egypt

Asia:
  • Arabia
  • Syria
  • Anatolia
  • Mesopotamia
  • Persia
  • Afghanistan
And that was after just the first century of the Muslim Empire

Don't forget the back and forth over the centuries that followed--not only between Muslims and non-Muslims, but also the constant fighting among the Muslims themselves: something that has continued throughout Muslim history and continues to this day.

Some of the more familiar countries that were attacked, conquered and occupied by Muslims in whole or in part include:
  • Spain
  • France
  • Italy
  • The Sahara
And let's not forget, as Goitein reminds us, that the various Muslim occupations resulted in the displacement of millions of people

So it's not that the Muslim world today is opposed to occupation of other countries--they just don't like the competition--something to keep in mind every time we witness the spectacle of Islamists whining about being victims of the West.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:26 PM   #2
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The Jewish Nakba:

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/201...ats-naqba.html
http://blogs.jpost.com/content/remembering-jewish-nakba

It would be nice to believe the myths that they left their homes in pursuit of the Zionist dream, but 95% of my encounters have been with elderly people who have told me the horrors of escaping raging mobs with nothing but a single suitcase in their hand. On May 15th their testimonies will be heard.

Matti Haron will be telling us how his grandfather lived as a Muslim in Iran and even went on pilgrimage to Mecca to hide his Jewish identity. For centuries, Jews were dhimmis, a subjugated minority who could only achieve true equality if they converted to Islam. Many of my North African Muslim friends have told me about having Jewish grandparents. One wonders what percentage of Muslims had Jewish ancestors who chose or were forced to convert to Islam to have an easier life?

Why don’t we know any of these stories? We are told that Jews and Muslims coexisted happily together through the ages. Here in London trying to tell the truth through film showings and testimonies at Jewish events is an uphill struggle. A blogger friend was told by one of our Israel advocacy organizations – “Jews from Arab countries are not sexy news.” She was stunned. “By 'sexy' I suppose he meant topical” she told me, “yet hardly a day goes by without some Palestinian, somewhere, telling how his land was 'stolen by the Zionists', as recently as... 63 years ago. Hardly topical, and yet the news media lap it up.”

It is too late to save the Jewish communities of the Arab world. Hardly any Jews are left. But the turmoil in the Arab world gives us a golden opportunity to press for the rights of all non-Muslim minorities, and to insist on the legitimacy of Israel, which gave safe haven to the beleaguered Jews of the region. As far as the Israel-Arab conflict is concerned, acknowledging that there was suffering on both sides is the key to reconciliation.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:07 PM   #3
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I expected more contemporary examples. E.g. the Arabization of Kirkuk.
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