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snislarne 12-31-2007 02:47 AM

Download Uproar: Record Industry Goes After Personal Use
 
Download Uproar: Record Industry Goes After Personal Use

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By Marc Fisher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 30, 2007; Page M05


Despite more than 20,000 lawsuits filed against music fans in the years since they started finding free tunes online rather than buying CDs from record companies, the recording industry has utterly failed to halt the decline of the record album or the rise of digital music sharing.
Still, hardly a month goes by without a news release from the industry's lobby, the Recording Industry Association of America, touting a new wave of letters to college students and others demanding a settlement payment and threatening a legal battle.
Now, in an unusual case in which an Arizona recipient of an RIAA letter has fought back in court rather than write a check to avoid hefty legal fees, the industry is taking its argument against music sharing one step further: In legal documents in its federal case against Jeffrey Howell, a Scottsdale, Ariz., man who kept a collection of about 2,000 music recordings on his personal computer, the industry maintains that it is illegal for someone who has legally purchased a CD to transfer that music into his computer.
The industry's lawyer in the case, Ira Schwartz, argues in a brief filed earlier this month that the MP3 files Howell made on his computer from legally bought CDs are "unauthorized copies" of copyrighted recordings.
"I couldn't believe it when I read that," says Ray Beckerman, a New York lawyer who represents six clients who have been sued by the RIAA. "The basic principle in the law is that you have to distribute actual physical copies to be guilty of violating copyright. But recently, the industry has been going around saying that even a personal copy on your computer is a violation."
RIAA's hard-line position seems clear. Its Web site says: "If you make unauthorized copies of copyrighted music recordings, you're stealing. You're breaking the law and you could be held legally liable for thousands of dollars in damages."
They're not kidding. In October, after a trial in Minnesota -- the first time the industry has made its case before a federal jury -- Jammie Thomas was ordered to pay $220,000 to the big record companies. That's $9,250 for each of 24 songs she was accused of sharing online.


Whether customers may copy their CDs onto their computers -- an act at the very heart of the digital revolution -- has a murky legal foundation, the RIAA argues. The industry's own Web site says that making a personal copy of a CD that you bought legitimately may not be a legal right, but it "won't usually raise concerns," as long as you don't give away the music or lend it to anyone.
Of course, that's exactly what millions of people do every day. In a Los Angeles Times poll, 69 percent of teenagers surveyed said they thought it was legal to copy a CD they own and give it to a friend. The RIAA cites a study that found that more than half of current college students download music and movies illegally.
The Howell case was not the first time the industry has argued that making a personal copy from a legally purchased CD is illegal. At the Thomas trial in Minnesota, Sony BMG's chief of litigation, Jennifer Pariser, testified that "when an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Copying a song you bought is "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy,' " she said.
But lawyers for consumers point to a series of court rulings over the last few decades that found no violation of copyright law in the use of VCRs and other devices to time-shift TV programs; that is, to make personal copies for the purpose of making portable a legally obtained recording.
As technologies evolve, old media companies tend not to be the source of the innovation that allows them to survive. Even so, new technologies don't usually kill off old media: That's the good news for the recording industry, as for the TV, movie, newspaper and magazine businesses. But for those old media to survive, they must adapt, finding new business models and new, compelling content to offer.
The RIAA's legal crusade against its customers is a classic example of an old media company clinging to a business model that has collapsed. Four years of a failed strategy has only "created a whole market of people who specifically look to buy independent goods so as not to deal with the big record companies," Beckerman says. "Every problem they're trying to solve is worse now than when they started."
The industry "will continue to bring lawsuits" against those who "ignore years of warnings," RIAA spokesman Jonathan Lamy said in a statement. "It's not our first choice, but it's a necessary part of the equation. There are consequences for breaking the law." And, perhaps, for firing up your computer.

washingtonpost.com

eskimosik 12-31-2007 02:57 AM

easy solution..........boycott music

jgztw2es 12-31-2007 03:14 AM

I'm almost with ya.. its getting rediculous

Gaxiciverfere 12-31-2007 03:15 AM

easy solution .. don't keep shit in your Shared Folder

suingincentix 12-31-2007 03:21 AM

But its saying that copying purchaced music to your computer is against the law all together...

maysubers 12-31-2007 03:25 AM

they can't search your whole pc .. only your Shared Folder ... or that is my understanding

fudelholf 12-31-2007 03:51 AM

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they can't search your whole pc .. only your Shared Folder ... or that is my understanding

I doubt very much if they want to do a search they would do it online, as in networking to search. They would/could get a search order to search your computer, in which case they would find the music files unless you got some supa dupa hiding thingy they can't crack.

itepearce 12-31-2007 03:54 AM

They have to have a cause to obtain a search warrant (or a way to know who's machine to search) .. they get the warrants by doing searches online .. they search people's Shared Folder .. that is the only folder that is open to the public on your machine.

That's where you store videos/songs if you are sharing them .. like on limewire .. they have to be avaliable in that particular folder to work.

iH1wMOhE 12-31-2007 03:55 AM

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easy solution .. don't keep shit in your Shared Folder
http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/homo.gif Dont share and you dont get busted http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ninja.gif

valensds 12-31-2007 03:57 AM

When I download stuff .. I immediantly move it to my hard drive and OUT of the shared folder (which is where downloaded stuff usually downloads to).

Heliosprime 12-31-2007 04:50 AM

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When I download stuff .. I immediantly move it to my hard drive and OUT of the shared folder (which is where downloaded stuff usually downloads to).
and then get online and openly admit you download songs illegally. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/tongue2.gif

inchaaruutaa 12-31-2007 04:51 AM

Those fines are absolutely ridiculous. They charge 15 bucks for a CD they produce for 3 bucks. and then charge someone 9250 bucks a song they illegally downloaded? Sounds like the rich get richer, the poor get poorer scheme.

joanasevilyboaz 12-31-2007 04:53 AM

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and then get online and openly admit you download songs illegally. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/tongue2.gif
Doens't matter .. they have to fnd the song to get the warrant. Probable cause is a biotch. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ninja.gif

melissa 12-31-2007 04:54 AM

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Those fines are absolutely ridiculous. They charge 15 bucks for a CD they produce for 3 bucks. and then charge someone 9250 bucks a song they illegally downloaded? Sounds like the rich get richer, the poor get poorer scheme.
they're trying to make a point .. and they ar eusing her to do it. She is the sacrificial lamb so to speak.

nemoforone 12-31-2007 04:55 AM

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Doens't matter .. they have to fnd the song to get the warrant. Probable cause is a biotch. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ninja.gif
With the way these cases have been going, aka easy wins for the RIAA, it wouldn't surprise me if a simple admission gets them a warrant for a search.

Xlkl9SFd 12-31-2007 05:03 AM

be kind sad if they did that and found nothing .. and then I sued them tho .. huh?

yasmin 12-31-2007 05:07 AM

I wouldn't be sad. I'd be outside the courthouse pointing and laughing at them.

MineOffedOvex 01-01-2008 04:05 PM

Personally, I'm old fashioned and if I want music, I buy a CD.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/smiley24.gif

Chiquita 01-01-2008 04:06 PM

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Personally, I'm old fashioned and if I want music, I buy a CD.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/smiley24.gif
i miss vynylhttp://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/frown.gif

CDCL7WKJ 01-01-2008 10:59 PM

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Personally, I'm old fashioned and if I want music, I buy a CD.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/smiley24.gif
if more than 2 songs per 17 didn't suck .. I'd still buy cd's too .. but lately .. that's all that usually is worth a crap on a cd.


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