[indocrew]

Sources: HereTodayGonetoHell.com, MyGnR.com

Album Title
Chinese Democracy (2000 Intentions and Cock-a-Roach soup are other titles being considered).

LiNe uP
Axl Rose [ Vocals, Guitar ]
Dizzy Reed [ Keyboards ]
Tommy Stinson [ Bass ]
Paul Tobias [ Guitar ] +
Buckethead [ Guitar ]**
Brain [ Drums ]
Robin Finck [ Guitar ]
Richard Fortus [ Guitar ] ++
Josh Freese [ Drums ] *

NoTeS
+ = was not touring with GN'R in 2002. Status in band is unknown. Replaced by Richard Fortus.
++ = replaced Paul Tobias in GN'R. Has recorded guitar parts on the albums.
* = has left GN'R (Josh went on tour with A Perfect Circle). According to Axl, Josh will be on the album.
** = left Gn'R to pursue his singles career (some say he joined GnR solely for the publicity/media attention.)

ProDucTioN
Release:
200x (unknown at this point)

Producer:
Sean Beavan

Engineer:
Critter

Additional
production:
Roy Thomas Baker [2000?-2002]
Bob Ezrin (A&R)

Mixing:
Chris Pittman?

PossiBLe TrAcKs
These four songs were performed during the 2002 tours:

+ The Blues - first performed in Las Vegas

+ Chinese Democracy (Freese/Rose) - "almost grungy" according to RS, first performed in Las Vegas

+ Madagascar - first performed in Rio de Janeiro

+ Riyadh And The Bedouins (aka Rhiad & The Bedouins) - first performed in Las Vegas

+ Dust in the Wind

Titles from the press/concerts:
(uncertain if these will appear on the first album)

+ Silk Worms (Pittman/Reed) - performed in Las Vegas & Rock In Rio 3)

+ Catcher In The Rye - mentioned in RS (Rolling Stone)

+ Oklahoma - mentioned in RS

+ I.R.S - mentioned in RS, supposed to have been played on Eddie Trunk's radio show on Aug 30th, 2003

+ Twat - mentioned in RS
Prostitute + - working title, mentioned in Spin magazine

Previously released:

+ Oh My God (Huge/Reed/Rose)
Used in the End of Days film.

+ Sympathy for the Devil
Used in Interview with the Vampire

Unreleased demos:

+ Crash Diet

+ Just Another Sunday

+ Somethin' for Nothin'

+ Sentimental Movie

+ Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover)

+ Shadow of Your Love

+ Livin' Loud

+ Strip Bar

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Most of the unreleased demos (above) can be found on peer-to-peer networks (KaZaa, LimeWire, etc.). The reason I post this info. now is that there's been a sudden influx of tracks/demos never heard before and I've noticed there's a lot of Guns n' Roses fans on here.

Here's my opinion of what I've heard so far:

= Madagascar rocks, if you get the chance to d/l anything, download that.

= Axl Rose has lost some of his voice (as seen at the MTV VMAs in 2002). As a result, he's altered the music's pace so he can deliver on the vocals-side of things. He can still sing well. There's no doubt about that. But don't expect him to pull out any high-pitched tones like in Paradise City or Welcome to the Jungle.

= The music sounds like the old Guns n' Roses toned down a tad on the vocals (as said before) with a very 'electric' feel. The majority of the new songs sound pretty good. Another favorite is Crash Diet for it's profound electric solos at the end and catchy lyrics.

= The album feels like a combination of Use Your Illusion I and II. In the sense that the lyrics are idealistic and not shallow like their previous hit, Appetite for Destruction. And the material doesn't stick to one specific rock style (grunge, hard rock and soft rock can all be found in amongst the new material). The songs also differ in pace.

= I'm pleased with the way the band is progressing. The Buckethead absence will need someone to fill the void. But if the band can get over that road block, they will be good as gold.

= If anyone's interested in d/l'ing some of their new material. Here's my recommendations:

1. Madagascar- beautiful song that sounds like a cross between Civil War and November Rain.

2. Crash Diet- faced-past power ballad. Axl does a good job with the vocals here. Listen for the solos too.

3. Chinese Democracy- sounds like classic Gn'R. The lyrics are somewhat vague but makes you think Axl's a really complex guy.

4. Shadow of Your Love- great song. Has a little 'soft' feel like Madagascar.

5. Oklahoma- another power ballad. Has a profound 'grunge' sound to it. The vocals sound....different (they don't sound like Axl in his previous albums). But overall, it's a good song.

[ April 14, 2004, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Shocker ]

[rhiniddibiarmr]

Yea, from what i remember they first announced this album in like 2000. Prolly before that. But i ben anticipating this album, and the way Axl is nowadays, hes prolly never gonna finish it. plus I WANT SLASH!!!

[rockboyzaza]

Yo~

So when the hell is this thing coming out?!?! LoL. I remember how Offspring wanted to call their album "Chinese Democracy: You Snooze, You Lose", because GNR was taking so long.

Buckethead is funny, I wanna check out his new solo album, he can do some strange things with a guitar.

-Ele

[suiviouse]

I agree with Kayta and Ele! lol! GUNS N ROSES is one cool band and if this album comes out it'll be cool.

[Clilmence]

Wow, I remember that I did a report for Music Exploration in the 9th grade on Guns N' Roses, and said that they were in the middle of recording or writing Chinese Democracy. That was soooo long ago