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Old 02-02-2012, 03:35 PM   #1
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Default Why are UFO's such a mystery?
I just don't understand why would extraterrestrial life would be such a big deal. If it's all true why all the lies and hiding?

If anyone as any clue why it is so secret and obscure for the public to know about it express your opinion.
Ho, and if you're one of "them", why are you hiding?

The mystery for me is not if they are real or not, I can deal with that. What is really bogging me is why it would have to be such a big secret?
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:58 AM   #2
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So i recently "awoke" as a consequence of seeing a UFO. The day was November 15th 2011 I was at work and had to go outside for a few minutes, after spending a month on afternoons I was prone to looking for stars when i was having a smoke break, anyway as I was waiting for my co worker i saw a strange looking air craft about 200 feet in the air. It was just about dusk but still light in the sky so I could see the bottom of the ship pretty clearly 3 orange lights spinning in a triangle shape with a darker light pulsing and rotating in the center. So after a minute my co worker came outside so i showed him and we watched it fly away for about 3 min, I knew it was a UFO but the other person who saw it thought it was a satellite. But as i said it was barely cloud level.

Anyway that event changed my life for the better I think since then I've begun learning so much about the planet, universe, mankind and myself.
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:49 AM   #3
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I think the reason they are kept secret is because knowledge is power. As long as The Powers That Be(or rather the powers that were ) know more than the masses the easier it is to control them. Anyone watch Ancient Aliens? The people of earth have known about ET's for who knows how long, but when certain people started to want to control everyone else it was easy to "make them forget". Just lie to them like the news does. If enough people lie, especially people of "high status" everyone will start to believe those lies and then kill the people who knew the truth or make them look like fools. If you have more knowledge than someone who doesn't it's easy to get them to believe lies. Why do you think that are education system sucks so bad? They want us to be ignorant. They want people to stay uninformed and unknowledgeable.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:32 AM   #4
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When it comes to UFOs---both "the powers that be" and much of their media machine did a pretty good job of "debunking" the whole idea of UFOS, ETs, etc.

Very rarely does the media take such topics seriously---it always has to be done with a wink and a smirk. It seems like that the anchors always have to mention "Did they see any little green men, Gretchen?" To that--I yell at the screen: "Dude---little green men is so 1950s!!! Everyone knows that they are the GREYS now!! At least get with the latest stuff!!"

Surely--the government has done their best to scare, intimidate or otherwise ward off people like pilots, law enforcement officers, their own people and others from often saying anything about the subject at all---how many cases have we heard about a pilot making an initial report of something strange or even an ATC person calling a plane asking if there traffic out at some point along their flight line---if the pilot says "Roger, Detroit Center--the thing looks like a flying disc with glowing lights and from this distance it looks to be the size of several football fields, Oh sh*%, the thing just took straight off at like Mach 8!!!" "Uhh copy that United 7295, do you wish to make a report?" "Detroit center, this is United 7295, negative on that, no freaking way!" "Roger that, United 7295, resume your original course and contact Des Moines center at the outer marker." "Copy that Detroit center."

In other words--if you are a pilot and you don't want a bunch of grief--if ya see a "UFO"-- ya keep your mouth shut about it----it might be one the size of a small city, make moves that nothing from this world could do and at such speeds, and be on every radar for a thousand miles--- BUT---you never saw a thing and neither did anyone else for that matter!!!

When I was a kid--we lived in a community that had a ton of Air Force personnel and many of them were pilots of B-52s that carried nukes in their bellies during the height of the Cold War. I recall them talking all the time about "last night's mission up over Greenland or Iceland" with them once again seeing UFOs following them. For those guys--it was standard ops, par for the course, business as usual to see UFOs following along--and they said they weren't Soviet aircraft dogging them!! But---they may have talked about it at home--but they said they never actually reported it--as much as anything because it was so routine and the things pacing them---never apparently acted in a threatening or aggressive manner.

When they actually did have a Soviet MiG or maybe see one of the "Russian Bear" nuke bombers come near them while on one of those missions---those guys could not stop talking about that!!!

I have to say that while I have never seen a UFO (at least directly)--I am very convinced that they do indeed exist and I will be posting up something about that topic.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:08 AM   #5
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I'd say because the folks in the UFOs have a different agenda from "our" leaders (the Powers That Were but still officially run the show) and the latter don't like that. Very short answer, but you get the point.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:09 PM   #6
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It's this special group of people like us who 'r very much into this.
I've asked a couple of friends for example.

- ''Do you believe in extraterrestrial life?''

- ''Naah, I don't know man''

When you come to think of it, I find it rather obvious there is.
But people who aren't in to this stuff don't since they're not looking for an answer.
Also if the government would go out about extraterrestrial life being real and have communicated with the government before. A lot of people would panic and be afraid that we were under any kind of attack or so. People are not ready until they go into the subject for a few days-weeks, in my opinion.
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Old 03-02-2012, 06:23 PM   #7
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There was one major reason and it was not the fear of meeting a new group of people.

Imagine the time when we "weren't" aware of other continents and other tribes of people.
What you are comparing the ET question to is like that, what happens when our acceptance of different people is challenged?

There is a far deeper reason for keeping it secret. Imagine telling a two year old that anything they can imagine can be created.

Ya but think about it for a few more minutes. Two year old's don't have very developed emotional restraints.
So what happens if you make a two year old mad?



I'm saying the collective society wasn't ready for the gift of infinitance.
The people who were ready for such a gift were considered advanced and pulled into the group controlling who gets to know about it.
I believe once the collective society is ready to accept that ANYTHING is possible and no one NEEDS to be enslaved......Then we will have truth.

The big thing is, that less than the majority of our greater society, is ready to let go of the artificial whips they are holding.
If we are givin the give of the infinite, then some of us would make an infinite whip to hold over the infinite.
So you can see it's a little bigger than meeting some new neighbors.

JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:35 AM   #8
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Apophis, I think you're leading to a good point.

Basically, us humans are here to do the 'long division' and show our work on the worksheet. We are a population of people who only came out of animalship fairly recently and as a result, we are challenged to learn the ways of love first hand. Perhaps our access to a whole different magnitude of love tech would short circuit our necessary learning curve.

Perhaps, the greater collection of extraterrestrial groups are fully plugged into love and therefore have as a basic background of their lives those things which we haven't yet evolved to the point of being able to handle. Maybe we ourselves have known at higher levels that our learning needs to come from figuring the love thing out for ourselves, before we can be trusted with, know of, and be privy to the big toys, with all the big boys. Mark
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:43 AM   #9
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I have no idea why there has not been disclosure in this regard but what I can say is that I do not think they are here to hurt us or that would have happend along time ago. but then again I just dont know
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:30 AM   #10
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight...rs-and-sisters

This man is such a treasure. Thought I should share this link here.

With love, Elisa
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:31 AM   #11
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They are us, perhaps in a way, and maybe we need to know ourselves first before we can know the bigger us?
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:06 PM   #12
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There is of course great secrecy over any current man/alien relationships as at least the human side of the equation is using the gains thereof for the personal gain of the few, not for the advancement of the many. No surprise there. As for why don't the rest of the "aliens" just show themselves? Well, that is covered in the thought that we are not mature enough to cope responsibly with the "technology" we might gain (physical or spiritual). Thus the concept we are quarantined. As well though, the wise "alien" knows not to get involved down here, for to do so is to risk being ensnared in this Earth systems field of karma. To enter this realm is to risk being caught in its laws. Kind of a reverse "prime directive." Wouldn't we all avoid getting involved in too much karmic cycling if we could?
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:11 PM   #13
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Oh yeah, as well most folk won't believe in UFOs unless they can rap their knuckles on the hard metal of one. And certainly, there are craft of that nature out there. But many, if not most UFOs are most likely not machines, but rather they are manifestations of an actual being. They aren't something one climbs into. They are activated Merkaba, soul vessels, the Boats of a Million Years. Not the kind of thing that disclosure can even fully reveal to the people of earth without the people being able to understand such a concept. And "they" certainly wouldn't want us to have such empowering understanding now would "they"?
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:51 AM   #14
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Oh yeah, as well most folk won't believe in UFOs unless they can rap their knuckles on the hard metal of one. And certainly, there are craft of that nature out there. But many, if not most UFOs are most likely not machines, but rather they are manifestations of an actual being. They aren't something one climbs into. They are activated Merkaba, soul vessels, the Boats of a Million Years. Not the kind of thing that disclosure can even fully reveal to the people of earth without the people being able to understand such a concept...
This very thought has been running through my head so much as of late.

When I see UFOs in waking life they typically look like a star with the ability to disappear and move. They travel rather slowly and come in and out of view, surfacing like a whale, and they seem to kno exactly where they're headed and what they're doing just like the creatures of the earth...minus most humans.

Also, I've had so many dreams where huge dog-looking creatures will pop out of a dark liquid-looking environment, for just a little bit, just to check up on me it seems like...

Another thing, one time I saw the weirdest UFO in a dream. It looked like something I never would've imagined. I saw it just seconds before getting to witness a spiral like the norway one.

It looked like a 2D square and was composed of red, white, and blue lines but was mostly transparent. It was surrounded in white and had just a tiny bit of blue in the top corner and a bit of red at the bottom corner. It moved along with me as I walked to let me kno it was viewing me as well I supposed. Then I fell to the ground, and felt some serious pain in my head, and then I saw the spiral a then I went off to tell dreamland people about seeing it but they already knew I had gotten to see it.

These things were UFOs that I just couldn't call a spaceship and this was before I ever even imagined a UFO not being a spaceship...but I have seen, and been on, spaceships in dreams before, too, so I think you've hit the nail right on the head.

When I was on a spaceship in my dream I asked the guy with me why the other spaceships weren't hurting me. I could see they firing on my ship. The guy replied with a smile, "because we're light..."

Just how advanced can a being get? Can there be a limit? There's really no telling, I guess, and it makes so much sense to me that they'd get too advanced to require a ship.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:18 PM   #15
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yea I agree with what you said. I have a opened mind but most people only believe what's on CNN. Witch is obviously totally unreal, even more then UFO! I think 9/11 is the big mistake the government made that made more and more people want some answers.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:23 PM   #16
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Appreciate your answer. You have a good point. I didn't think of it this way tho. I don't want to be able to have all the power that they could give. I really thing ALL humanity would have to be so much more advance, and I'm not talking technologies, but rather living in harmony and peace and only want the best for every one else.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:25 PM   #17
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I think it has to be considered that any civilization that has come here has done so through elaborate and advanced technology. They are operating on a level of knowledge we are only beginning to scratch the surface of. Gauging from what David has made known through black ops tech, ie., "The Chair, Montauk, Looking Glass" and others, it requires a very clear level of intent and spiritual balance for such technology to be accessed properly. Having said that. Any civilization that is here is naturally advanced evolutionarily, not to mention, spiritually. Essentially, much of what is 3D existence would have no value to anyone who has advanced dimensionally and spiritually. It's much like the fact that as 3D beings, for the most part, we have advanced beyond the "animal 2D" in order to be human. Ideally, we create a civilization governed by laws that protect us from those of our brethren who still operate from the animal based instinctual world. However, our keepers would have us devolve into perpetual animal level behaviors through the mere act of trying to survive rather than creating a world in which we can experience the essential human experience in balance with nature.

Consider the process of awakening that takes place when a Wanderer becomes aware of their true nature. As each new level of understanding takes hold within their being, the need for additional 3D desires and experience begins to lessen. A essential detachment from 3D existence begins to take hold and a longing for elevated consciousness and oneness permeates the conscious mind. That is, of course, if they are of the STO variety. My point is, that any civilization that has entered our timeline would not be moved or motivated by the same things that we are. Therefore, much of what they witness in our 3D construct would be irrelevant and tolerated through an essential understanding of the process of spiritual evolution and incorporated within their thinking and interaction with us.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:30 AM   #18
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Several reasons. First we should look at history. Lets consider the geocentric view of the universe. It was at one time common belief that the earth was the center of the universe and that man was God's special creation. The first people who discovered that our solar system is heliocentric were deemed heretics. As time went on we have accepted that earth is a mere spec in the cosmic ocean yet we have not gotten rid of the idea that man is the highest of God's creations. Admitting that there are beings which exist that are much more advanced than us technologically challenges this basic religious assumption for a good portion of humanity and could create a global crisis of faith. Just as the idea that the sun is the center of the solar system took many years to become commonly accepted so to would the existence of other beings who are every bit our equals or higher level density speaking.

Further to elaborate on the above concept we would either be inclined to believe that these beings are superior to us in the same way we are superior to plants and animals, or we would have to say we are all equal even though our abilities and consciousness differ. This creates the conundrum of then we would have to logically extend this paradigm to the very beings we have historically subjugated and cultivated, plants and animals. Massive paradigm shifts in our perception of reality would have to take place.

Those of us who already believe that plants and animals are conscious and living and should be treated with respect will not be troubled by this but we are a pretty large minority by my guess. Similarly we who frequent this site and believe the LoO is an authentic document will already be comfortable with the idea of higher density beings.

Now we have another issue which is human history of conflict. In most cases when one country discovered a new group of people conflict inevitably ensued. Whether this was for gold or land or slaves. We are humans and as such we as a group would tend to view other lifeforms as being similar to our own in how we interact with each other. It is pretty logical to assume that if we were to encounter life on another planet in our solar system that we would be quite ready and willing to take their planet and resources for our own use. This view is extended to those who would encounter us and if they can reach us but we cannot reach them then we will feel that inevitably we will be drawn into conflict.

Most people who think about the subject would readily admit that it is likely that many other planets and solar systems throughout the universe would contain life and that there is no reason to think that their could not be beings similar in development to our own as regards to technology. However admitting the likelihood of alien life and being shown evidence of contact are two different things.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:55 AM   #19
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I get the gist of what you are trying to convey, Dtris. However, I would add that if a being has evolved spiritually, then what you are saying has no basis from the standpoint of that understanding because what you say is based upon the limitations of 3D mind constructs. There comes a time in our evolution as spiritual beings that we understand the limits of 3D mind, body and spirit complexes and begin to blend into a greater awareness as to why humans think as they do, and we are no longer constrained by those thoughts and reactions.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:26 PM   #20
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The powers who "wanna be" (and soon won't) know that once the sleeping masses are awakened by the knowledge of the extraterrestrials' existence their economic grip on us would disappear like a fart in a tornado. Once the people realised that our leaders (for want of a better expression) have had an ongoing knowledge of ETs and their technologies they'd ask why are we using primitive sources for power such as coal and oil when we've had FREE energy sources available to us for a century and that would be the end of their power over us. They could hide Tesla's work easily but flying saucer technology is another thing.
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