[fedordzen]

i don't know how many people on here are aware of or follow l/l research which is the source of the original ra material. they continue to post transcripts of their material. most of it now comes through a source which identifies itself as q'uo.

anyhow the material in their latest two postings is some of the best that i have ever read from any source, and i just wanted to share.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcript...2009_1020.aspx


http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2009/2009_1013.aspx

peace.

[iOqedeyH]

"space may be thought of as linear, if time is thought of as volumetric. or you may reverse the process, as you do within your limitation, and consider space volumetric and time linear. either is true. and either may be perceived to be true, depending upon the limitations of your thought. it is possible to move linearly in space and volumetrically in time, all with the same movement. you can be aware of what you call the past, the present, and the future, simultaneously."

i'm not a quant so i'll try this qualitatively. space-time is easy to understand because we exist in it. time-space is difficult for us, but what if we were to use our past/future for x (including past lives), alternate universes for y, and ourselves in different states of evolution (ie 3d vs 6d) for z?

in time-space, we are fixed in space - as you say "while moving inside time-dimensions you may not influence the physical world [space]" but we may visit ourselves in different moments in time?

does this make any sense or am i totally off?

[jessyhalm]

it is my understanding that the world of spirit exists in now time where past, present and the potential future are experienced simotaniously. does that mean our higherself is experiencing and managing all our past present and future lives all at the same time? if it is true can we then pull skills and talents from them that we do not poccess now?

[Lapsinuibense]

http://llresearch.org/transcripts/is...2010_1023.aspx

to the ego or the personality shell it seems an intrusion for people to know your thoughts. however, you will find that it is a great relief. to your ego there are some thoughts that are good and some thoughts that are not good and you would not wish people to know of your secret thoughts. and yet, since all entities have them, they are not a surprise to anyone in fourth density or above. they are a part of an integrated being that contains all things that there are. if you are one with all that there is, do you not contain all things? consequently it is not a shock to you, in the context of a fourth-density social memory complex, that those entities which make up the social memory complex have, each and every one of them, a full panoply of thoughts, both positive and negative.

[fount_pirat]

http://llresearch.org/transcripts/is...2010_1023.aspx

panoply... interesting word choice...

negative thoughts exist, but they are consciously brought to a vibratory level of positive. this is the supposed nature of 4d positive. the "openness" exists and is used openly to come to a positive vibrational achievement.

this isn't a misstep or misspeak. i find it cohesive with the concept...

[MontyP@thon]

panoply... interesting word choice...

ya.. i wonder if they meant it in more of the "impressive array" or the "protective covering" connotation.

negative thoughts exist, but they are consciously brought to a vibratory level of positive. this is the supposed nature of 4d positive. the "openness" exists and is used openly to come to a positive vibrational achievement.

this isn't a misstep or misspeak. i find it cohesive with the concept... i agree. it think it is sometimes unclear in people's minds that 4d doesn't mean the end of negativity... just 100x less of it.

[nuveem7070]

found this on l/l research site while eating humble pie. thought this was pretty interesting in respect to the logos that we are in.

"there are many times in your individual life where you will have an experience that appears that something negative is going to happen to you. in the preparation of the self for said negative event, there are those appropriate shifts and realizations that are made in consciousness. you come to understand that, because of the [burgeoning] event that is transforming you, you can let go of many things that have formed stopping-blocks and holding points in your life in the past. now you have the opportunity to let them go by the wayside. it is only after you make these shifts that you discover that the negative event itself does not need to transpire, as what was truly required was the change in consciousness and not the essence of actually going through said event.

similarly, there are many scenarios being bandied about regarding the idea of apocalyptic doom or nuclear conflagration or some other aspect of mass destruction that would take you outside of your zones of comfort and put you into a “mad max scenario,” as some would call it, some form of complete disruption and chaos. there are adjustments that are being made to planetary consciousness. there are carefully placed strictures involved in what your negative elites are actually capable of performing in terms of physical acts on your plane.

thusly you see the detention of one known as jose padilla, who was accused of having been a terrorist without any supporting information and was apprehended and held in guantanamo bay, cuba, without being able to contact his lawyer or otherwise have access to the normal rights in the constitution. from this one case, one may project a fear that this will become commonplace; that ordinary anti-war protesters will be denied their citizenship and herded off to detention camps or such things. since the beginning of our work with david, we have always stated that although these potentialities would appear to be possible, that they will never actually arise into physicality.

[pulled out this part of the paragraph]
this is by virtue of the fact that your planet is essentially positive and that there are simply not enough of your peoples who are willing to turn their backs upon others, especially within their own country, and in so doing, create this nightmare scenario that is such a virtual re-depiction of previous negative scenarios on your plane.
[/pulled out this part of the paragraph]

therefore, you can choose to have a fear reaction, if you want to, to the events that are transpiring on the earth at this time. however, we would ask that you make this choice with the understanding that it is only useful to you insofar as it leads you to make realizations about your own life. to put it in a more blunt fashion we can say that as you fall out of love with your negative elite and no longer seek to give them the god-like status that the media would convey, you also take yourself off of the pedestal that you have erected and recognize the ways in which you yourself have allowed negative situations to propagate and to fester. when you become more and more cognizant of the ways in which some of these negative actions in the grand political scheme play themselves out in your own world, you begin to understand how ascension truly occurs."

here is a link to the complete

http://www.llresearch.org/transcript...2003_0302.aspx

priest of light

[Freefspruptpx]

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/jan3/rueckert.htm

here is a nice interview with carla channeling q'uo.
it is very hard to define exactly what q'uo is/are, i like how they put it: "we are those known to you as the principle of q'uo."

love and light,
ra ma

[sDePrx59]

while reading more of the q'uo channeling, i found this shocking revelation, which by me feels way too prominent.
the entity was asked a question in regarding any actual spots in time with which the harvest can be associated.
although it went on answering for quite some time, nothing could've prepared me for this:

"the planet itself, minus the time lateral, will completely shift into fourth density at the winter solstice of 2011."
-q'uo

in love and welcoming light,
ra ma

[AnypecekceS]

and just what makes up the principle of quo??

for those interested please go to the beginning and take a looksee at posts #2 and # 5

yours truly, bbb

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/jan3/rueckert.htm

here is a nice interview with carla channeling q'uo.
it is very hard to define exactly what q'uo is/are, i like how they put it: "we are those known to you as the principle of q'uo."

love and light,
ra ma

[Meenepek]

thanks bill,
here's what i got:

"this particular principle was created because this particular instrument has a certain way of tuning and preparing for contact with the confederation entities.

as each within this circle is aware, the contact with those of ra was a very narrow-band contact which was only possible during that window of opportunity when the ones known as don, jim and carla were all in the circle and when the one known as don passed from this third-density experience, the possibility of further contact with this particular entity was ended.

however, this instrument continued to tune and pray in the same manner and those of latwii and others within the confederation, including those of hatton and those of ra, felt that perhaps the creation of a principle would best respond to this instrument’s very real desire for the highest and best contact of which she was capable. since those of ra could not speak with this instrument in a conscious and stable manner, there was no possibility for that social memory complex being the speaker. however, both those of hatton and those of latwii had previously enjoyed sharing the thoughts of those of ra in a teach/learning circle and the three groups decided that they would blend into one principle, with the ones known as hatton being responsible simply for projecting a vibration of love, of which i feel sure that each of you is aware as we speak. the ones known as latwii took the responsibility for speaking to this instrument and the ones known as ra were part of the process of defining just how to respond to the question that was presented to the principle of q’uo.

so, as those of q’uo speak, it is those of latwii who are creating the concepts which this instrument receives and translates into words."


love and light,
ra ma

ps: for those interested; hatton is 4th density(not sure about this one but it makes sense because), latwii is 5th density and ra is 6th density.

[freddyujnf]

while reading more of the q'uo channeling, i found this shocking revelation, which by me feels way too prominent.
the entity was asked a question in regarding any actual spots in time with which the harvest can be associated.
although it went on answering for quite some time, nothing could've prepared me for this:

"the planet itself, minus the time lateral, will completely shift into fourth density at the winter solstice of 2011."
-q'uo

in love and welcoming light,
ra ma

hi jeia,

can you please provide a link to this channeling? thanks, mark

[Keyblctt]

hello ra mark,


i found it on the lightworkers.org but due to its forum nature, i hessitated to provide it, knowing links to other forums/blogs are not allowed here.

but here it is in the archive: http://www.llresearch.org/transcript...2007_0211.aspx

love and light,
ra ma

[KahiroSamo]

hello jeia!

thanks for the link, throws me back to the eternal question of the "instantaneous/gradual ascension question". has david ever referred to this quote of qu'o while discussing this issue that seems to divide pple into opposites?
lacy j dalton i discovered here on dc only to find in living the law of one she's a favourite of carla also!

[Blotassefesek]

hi ra ma and transiten,

i've never heard david speak of the time-lateral concept as channeled from q'uo through carla. i often consider the difference between the ra channelings which were seemingly achieved without having to pass through the conscious biases of carla, and the q'uo channelings which were of a more broad band transmission, and are channeled while carla is conscious. i do know that david has said that this type of channeling is more likely to reflect the conscious biases of the channeler.

however, i do note that the time-lateral concept was never put forth by the ra, inasfar as i am aware. if any of the more astute loo students out there feel that such a scenario was hinted to by the ra in any way please offer your imput.

tonite i stumbled upon a pdf on the net - someone has seemingly gone through all the q'uo references to the time-lateral and collected them altogether in this pdf. here's the link:

http://montalk.net/timelateral.pdf

[formobilagsw]

in furtherance to the above - i don't know when this list was assembled, and haven't yet researched as to whether q'uo has made more recent comments as to the time-lateral concept than those contained here.

in all this, i offer that despite mysterious pronouncements hinting at future scenarios, (all begins and ends in mystery - ra) there is only the present moment in which to find acceptance and peace, and the practice of a wholly unconditional love for every condition, every being and everything. i feel that love/light becomes a truly universal radiant light/love only in the present moment of attainment. our becoming, rather than being seduced into future hopes, is now, put out there with whatever attainment we have now, as in choosing 'now' to radiate what we have achieved with unconditional love, now. now is the time, and now is the potential. mark

[KJnbceja]

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/jan3/rueckert.htm

here is a nice interview with carla channeling q'uo.
it is very hard to define exactly what q'uo is/are, i like how they put it: "we are those known to you as the principle of q'uo."

love and light,
ra ma

just started reading this and was intregued by this statement;


"firstly we would say that the physical manifestations of unrest, terrorism and war are what they are and are the natural outworking of the processes of graduation in which entities who have chosen service to self are attempting to graduate with the same devotion and focus with those who are attempting to graduate in the path of service to others."

do you think they mean the common soldier is down the path of sts? that does not seem right but who knows.

[Narkeere]

while reading more of the q'uo channeling, i found this shocking revelation, which by me feels way too prominent.
the entity was asked a question in regarding any actual spots in time with which the harvest can be associated.
although it went on answering for quite some time, nothing could've prepared me for this:

"the planet itself, minus the time lateral, will completely shift into fourth density at the winter solstice of 2011."
-q'uo

in love and welcoming light,
ra ma

i am sure i have read them say that the transition would occur in the summer of '12 and then that the people have done enough to avoid a catastrophe.

[Paybeskf]

taking note of a confessed failing of the ra

they have mentioned in the past that they have trouble with our numbers and dates, so forth...they also have a hard time thinking of us as individuals rather than lumped altogether into a singular social/mental/spiritual amalgamation...or words to that effect. helps to keep in mind that time is so that everything doesn't seem to be happening at once...or maybe that doesn't help...actually it confuses me a bunch...

billious g aka bbb

[Extinimot]

in furtherance to the above - i don't know when this list was assembled, and haven't yet researched as to whether q'uo has made more recent comments as to the time-lateral concept than those contained here.

in all this, i offer that despite mysterious pronouncements hinting at future scenarios, (all begins and ends in mystery - ra) there is only the present moment in which to find acceptance and peace, and the practice of a wholly unconditional love for every condition, every being and everything. i feel that love/light becomes a truly universal radiant light/love only in the present moment of attainment. our becoming, rather than being seduced into future hopes, is now, put out there with whatever attainment we have now, as in choosing 'now' to radiate what we have achieved with unconditional love, now. now is the time, and now is the potential. mark

hi ra ma and transiten,

i've never heard david speak of the time-lateral concept as channeled from q'uo through carla. i often consider the difference between the ra channelings which were seemingly achieved without having to pass through the conscious biases of carla, and the q'uo channelings which were of a more broad band transmission, and are channeled while carla is conscious. i do know that david has said that this type of channeling is more likely to reflect the conscious biases of the channeler.

however, i do note that the time-lateral concept was never put forth by the ra, inasfar as i am aware. if any of the more astute loo students out there feel that such a scenario was hinted to by the ra in any way please offer your imput.

tonite i stumbled upon a pdf on the net - someone has seemingly gone through all the q'uo references to the time-lateral and collected them altogether in this pdf. here's the link:

http://montalk.net/timelateral.pdf

thanks mark

this statement of david also means that since he is conscious while channeling, his channeling of ra is more biased than carla's channeling of ra? right? so in this respect carla's channeling would be more reliable according to david's own logic?