[tactWeiccaf]

hmmmm jeia, actually spelled your name wit a "j" instead of "i" and it should be "peaces" instead of "peacis"...

...also i find david and edgar cacey resemble eachother like two peas...have you seen the extreme similarities btw their horoscopes? and how their relatives and friends also are look alikes. whatever one thinks about david being edgar cacey reincarnated or not, these similarities must be one to a trillion chances it would happen "just like that"...

and apophis, i like you perspective that earth could come to define our civilazation again. actually am rehearsing for a "musical service" in a church and one of my songs "venus" ends with that conclusion. well pluto has entered the earthy sign of capricorn and will be there for a long time meaning all structures that don't support sustainability on earth will crumble. of course the ptb will try to increase their plutocrate/saturnian control but rebellious uranus in aries has shown pple on earth just had enough. unfortunately this is also a sign of earth changes, volcanoes erupting, earthquakes and volatile stock markets etc. that are a reflection of the tension built up in society.

neptune in it's own sign pisces though will bring back universal spirituality.

[SQiTmhuY]

wow. lol!

first, yes we are all pieces in this puzzle, fully agree!
second i know what you mean; about david and edgar! i did look at their charts and wow!
i know the date and time of the birth of jesus is controversial, but did you ever try comparing edgar's chart to jesus's if we take these coordinates: born february 28, -006 at 03:34 am; in bethléem, israel; pisces 7°17 as capricorn 12°16.
my jaw dropped!

there's obviously more to this than meets the eye!
and wow, thanks for all that info!
i am new to astrology, so thanks a bunch!

so it seems that from that point of view this data backs up all the things that are going on in the world at the moment? eh?

hmmmm jeia, actually spelled your name wit a "j" instead of "i" and it should be "peaces" instead of "peacis"...

...also i find david and edgar cacey resemble eachother like two peas...have you seen the extreme similarities btw their horoscopes? and how their relatives and friends also are look alikes. whatever one thinks about david being edgar cacey reincarnated or not, these similarities must be one to a trillion chances it would happen "just like that"...

and apophis, i like you perspective that earth could come to define our civilazation again. actually am rehearsing for a "musical service" in a church and one of my songs "venus" ends with that conclusion. .

[Cibirrigmavog]

from jeia: i know the date and time of the birth of jesus is controversial, but did you ever try comparing edgar's chart to jesus's if we take these coordinates: born february 28, -006 at 03:34 am; in bethléem, israel; pisces 7°17 as capricorn 12°16.
my jaw dropped! i was an a.r.e member for many years and had access to all the readings online. i also have many books about and of edgar. there is one in particular you should read if you are interested in this sort of history. it is "the lives of edgar cayce" by w.h. church. church took readings that cayce did for himself (as i remember, his reading # was 391, but sometimes my memory fails me, lol) and put them all together in the book. during the time of jesus, cayce found himself as lucius of cyrene, who was one of the 'other seventy' disciples chosen to spread the word. he was later chosen by john the beloved to be the bishop of laodicea. very informative book.

and, if you just want to know about edgar's life, a must-read is tom sugrue's classic, "there is a river". chris

[Dertrioz]

wow, its chris
hi chris!

thanks a lot i will look into it! i have a gap between the ra-ta incarnation and edgar cayce that would be nice to fill up! thanks! interesting name though, lucius! that's why i was seeing all those distortions between edgar and jesus!

i was gonna call my son lucius, how's that for a coincidence? but the short name luke means sewage entry in russian, so we went with russell.

wow, how strange! i was feeling that name in my heart like it just would not leave me alone! wow chris i don't know what to do right now jump for joy or cry!

thank you so much!
see it all comes around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

love and light,
shocked liz

i was an a.r.e member for many years and had access to all the readings online. i also have many books about and of edgar. there is one in particular you should read if you are interested in this sort of history. it is "the lives of edgar cayce" by w.h. church. church took readings that cayce did for himself (as i remember, his reading # was 391, but sometimes my memory fails me, lol) and put them all together in the book. during the time of jesus, cayce found himself as lucius of cyrene, who was one of the 'other seventy' disciples chosen to spread the word. he was later chosen by john the beloved to be the bishop of laodicea. very informative book.

and, if you just want to know about edgar's life, a must-read is tom sugrue's classic, "there is a river". chris

[f6HLLFcw]

hello all,

here is an interesting documentary on water...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3zue54fvhi

cheers

[Turbo-ip]

dear friends,

http://www.realitysandwich.com/age_water

be well, be love.

david

the age of water
charles eisenstein

for tens of thousands of years, fire has defined our civilization. it is fire that has allowed us to smelt metals, to purify chemicals, to power cars, trains and airplanes, to pave over the earth and travel to the moon. without fire there would be no silicon chips, no pharmaceutical drugs, no plastic toys, no guns or bombs, no televisions or computers. ours is surely an age of fire -- an age which is rapidly drawing to a close.

the age of fire is an age of separation, during which humans have sought to dominate and control nature. from the very beginning, the circle of the campfire divided the world into two parts: the safe, domestic part, and the wild. here was the hearth, the center of the circle of domesticity. here was warmth, keeping the cold world at a distance. here was safety, keeping predators at bay. here was light, defining a human realm but making the night beyond all the deeper, all the more alien. outside the circle of firelight was the other, the wild, the unknown.

the age of fire is also an age of domination. the original technologies of fire mostly employed wood, thereby removing it from the normal biological cycle and preempting the natural flow of matter and energy. no longer did it nourish generations of insects, fungi, and soil. this arrogation of wood's oxidative energy to human purposes defined very early on the dominating relationship that technology embodies; today, the same logic sees all the materials of the world as "resources," classifying them according to their usefulness to man. today we burn oil, not wood, but the mentality of burning is the same: the arrogation of stored energy to human purposes of control, accompanied by the degradation of other phases of the cycle in an unsustainable pretense of eternal linear growth.

the unsustainability of our present system derives from its linearity, its assumption of an infinite reservoir of inputs and limitless capacity for waste. fire is a fitting metaphor for such a system, for it involves a one-way conversion of matter from one form to another, liberating energy-heat and light-in the process. just as our economy is burning through all forms of stored cultural and natural wealth to liberate energy in the form of money, so also does our industry burn up stored fossil fuels to liberate the energy that powers our technology. both generate heat for a while, but also increasing amounts of cold, dead, toxic ash and pollution, whether the ash-heap of wasted human lives or the strip-mine pits and toxic waste dumps of industry.

amazing post thanks for sharing it

which reminds me (a bit off topic), did you know they have found water on the sun? heres the link.

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/news/sunwater.html

[Binuilienzync]

woooooo! university of waterloo! yay!
so many great achievements made there!

thanks for the link! i thought water closer to the sun should be in plasma form not in vapor/gas form.. although maybe the sun isn't hot enough to make it into plasma?

i think water had to exist obviously before life..i also think that we ended up here through water, like the ground breaking experiment where the dna was transported from one tube of water into the next, in the next room! so obviously first water, then we were zapped into that water... from the source field perhaps?

hehe, well i am going a bit off topic as well,
so off i go!

love and light,
ra ma

[ebookinfo]

woooooo! university of waterloo! yay!
so many great achievements made there!

thanks for the link! i thought water closer to the sun should be in plasma form not in vapor/gas form.. although maybe the sun isn't hot enough to make it into plasma?

i think water had to exist obviously before life..i also think that we ended up here through water, like the ground breaking experiment where the dna was transported from one tube of water into the next, in the next room! so obviously first water, then we were zapped into that water... from the source field perhaps?

hehe, well i am going a bit off topic as well,
so off i go!

love and light,
ra ma

sorry for the delayed response! well according to david's source field, it was always in the water and everything else. something else would have been missing to accumilate life in the habitat, then whatever that was came and zapped it all into life. possibly static electrcity? its subtle enough not to fry something, yet can still agitate mass. david was also saying microwaves transfer dna, perhaps its a mixture of things all working against eachother. it would be a deffinite push.

[Jourgenz]

is the source field conscious? does it see? how similair are we to the mass we live on? i may have some answers for you.

i was thinking last night about the earth, and its few colors from space. for some reason i got the urge to picture it from a birds eye view looking straight down the north pole. it itched my mind with something similair. i looked at the round ice cap in its brilliant white. i looked at the blue oceans surrounding it. i even looked at the black space surrounding the earth. then i looked at it all at once, and noticed i was being stared at. but backwords from usual, the pupil is white and the outer was black. the blue colors the same (i have blue eyes). the earth is shaped and colored exactly oppisate of our eyes. is it possible the earth has been watching somewhere far off in space? there is minimal land in the northern region, but with a strong ground at its back. just like how the image comes into our eyes at one end to shine on the back end to be processed.

eye and earth.JPG

anyway i had never noticed this before, is there anything pertaining to this out there now?

[fubyFrery]

good observation! our pupils are black because they observe light.. white reflects light!
i think we are all just mirrors for the sun's light... the sun sees itself in all of us as the light bounces off and travels back...and light travels through space...

and about the water, david says that the source field has water qualities... can't really say that the source field is water, because water is a result of the source consciousnesses mixing chemicals together to create life, harvest from 1st density to second is where i presume this happens and when dna and rna can be zapped from the source's design into the space/time and time/space reality!! pretty much it designs the waves of life and then with electricity(or whatever the source of power is) it is zapped into the water.

love,
ra ma

is the source field conscious? does it see? how similair are we to the mass we live on? i may have some answers for you.

i was thinking last night about the earth, and its few colors from space. for some reason i got the urge to picture it from a birds eye view looking straight down the north pole. it itched my mind with something similair. i looked at the round ice cap in its brilliant white. i looked at the blue oceans surrounding it. i even looked at the black space surrounding the earth. then i looked at it all at once, and noticed i was being stared at. but backwords from usual, the pupil is white and the outer was black. the blue colors the same (i have blue eyes). the earth is shaped and colored exactly oppisate of our eyes. is it possible the earth has been watching somewhere far off in space? there is minimal land in the northern region, but with a strong ground at its back. just like how the image comes into our eyes at one end to shine on the back end to be processed.

eye and earth.JPG

anyway i had never noticed this before, is there anything pertaining to this out there now?

[Nfxutkpa]

good observation! our pupils are black because they observe light.. white reflects light!
i think we are all just mirrors for the sun's light... the sun sees itself in all of us as the light bounces off and travels back...and light travels through space...

and about the water, david says that the source field has water qualities... can't really say that the source field is water, because water is a result of the source consciousnesses mixing chemicals together to create life, harvest from 1st density to second is where i presume this happens and when dna and rna can be zapped from the source's design into the space/time and time/space reality!! pretty much it designs the waves of life and then with electricity(or whatever the source of power is) it is zapped into the water.

love,
ra ma

i didnt mean to say it was the water just floating about in it, but i agree in short haha.

[agolutuaddiff]

i think that dw actually says that the source field has fluidic properties, as in the sense of its observed dynamic rotational qualities and wave propagating characteristics. for example, a rapidly spinning or shaken object can be observed to 'spray off' some of its mass/weight, much as a wet dog will shed water by vigorously shaking itself.

atoms, subatomic 'particles' and photons, etc., seem to all manifest by way of vortextual, or whirlpool-like, vibrating energetic formations stemming from the etheric background fabric of the universe, or in other words the conscious source field - the source of all energy. all energy is vibration, and seems to exhibit these spinning, or torsional properties.

it's almost as if matter can be viewed as wave interference, standing wave or harmonic wave patterns which geometrically form as energetic wave formations which are composed of - or at least propagated by - these energetic spinning vortices, and which collide and create additional and even more intricate harmonic patterns. the source field, seeming to be a background, primary reality which births all that manifests, injects its energy into the observable universe in these ways; ways which seem to follow the characteristics of fluid dynamics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0t4qivwf4

[valentinesdayyy]

ha. sammy, what did we start?
mark gone all scientist on us
thank you mark, very well put! and now i don't have to squeeze that out of my brain!

i think that dw actually says that the source field has fluidic properties, as in the sense of its observed dynamic rotational qualities and wave propagating characteristics. for example, a rapidly spinning or shaken object can be observed to 'spray off' some of its mass/weight, much as a wet dog will shed water by vigorously shaking itself.

atoms, subatomic 'particles' and photons, etc., seem to all manifest by way of vortextual, or whirlpool-like, vibrating energetic formations stemming from the etheric background fabric of the universe, or in other words the conscious source field - the source of all energy. all energy is vibration, and seems to exhibit these spinning, or torsional properties.

it's almost as if matter can be viewed as wave interference, standing wave or harmonic wave patterns which geometrically form as energetic wave formations which are composed of - or at least propagated by - these energetic spinning vortices, and which collide and create additional and even more intricate harmonic patterns. the source field, seeming to be a background, primary reality which births all that manifests, injects its energy into the observable universe in these ways; ways which seem to follow the characteristics of fluid dynamics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0t4qivwf4

[Nesskissabe]

ha. sammy, what did we start?
mark gone all scientist on us
thank you mark, very well put! and now i don't have to squeeze that out of my brain!

haha quite a bit to wrap around for sure. that sound video though.... mindblowing! i especialy liked the pitch that made the sand resemble a developing embrio.

dicot-embryo-development-stages.jpg

or you can also see the structure in this actual photo.

158.jpg

[Cinzomzm]

there is much talk about water in this thread. could it be to observe the opposite of the "age of fire"
if the age of pisces (water sign) was opposed by fire, the evaporating of water.
the age of aquarius (air sign) would be opposed by earth, the condensing of wind.

just a thought.

[TodeImmabbedo]

haha quite a bit to wrap around for sure. that sound video though.... mindblowing! i especialy liked the pitch that made the sand resemble a developing embrio.

so that would be skin cells, i remembered seeing in a embryo picture. haha sorry for any confusion.

skincells - WEB.jpg

[Quonuttott]

there is much talk about water in this thread. could it be to observe the opposite of the "age of fire"
if the age of pisces (water sign) was opposed by fire, the evaporating of water.
the age of aquarius (air sign) would be opposed by earth, the condensing of wind.

just a thought.

could you please elaborate? im not quite sure i know what you mean.

[dmitrynts]

the thread was started with a description of how the age of water has been dominated by fire.

the age of water
charles eisenstein

for tens of thousands of years, fire has defined our civilization. (ext. ext..)

the next age, the age of aquarius is that of air. and the balance to the element of air is earth, much like the balance to the element water is fire.
i was simply pointing out that for the next tens of thousands of years, earth could come to define our civilization.

[wbeachcomber]

that's why, i think, david is here to bring the age of pieces to an end... because he is a pieces!
so jesus brought the age, and david will bring it to the end/change...
just as moses brought the age of aries... and so on!

well, it is the turn for air now! and that includes me a libra!
and yes, the earth will be purified much during this age!

love,
ra ma

[Pdarasenko]

the thread was started with a description of how the age of water has been dominated by fire.



the next age, the age of aquarius is that of air. and the balance to the element of air is earth, much like the balance to the element water is fire.
i was simply pointing out that for the next tens of thousands of years, earth could come to define our civilization.

very interesting and sorry for the lapse as i did read the beggining. it has allready started that way with "going green" and solar power as well. if we utilized some of our more renewable recources, we could stop the use of wood and use farms for building materials. either way it will be interesting to see where it goes. i actualy took a class on solar power, very inventive ideas can be done where there is usualy no power or hot water.