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Old 01-06-2011, 04:03 PM   #1
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Default double slit, conscious and unconscious mind
i was wondering if anyone knows about any research on the double slit experiment with the unconscious mind.

since the conscious mind collapses the wave it would seem like the unconscious mind would also collapse the wave.

there has got to be an experiment where the unconscious mind knows which slit the electron passes through while the conscious mind does not.
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:39 AM   #2
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interesting intriguing question frodoking and might this also has something to do with synchronicity?

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Old 02-06-2011, 11:27 AM   #3
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parallel universes or parallel potential. that is the question.
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Old 02-06-2011, 07:11 PM   #4
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parallel universes or parallel potential. that is the question.
unity. simultaneity. infinity.
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Old 02-07-2011, 02:32 AM   #5
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frodoking, can you tell the members who may not know about the double slit experiment what it does? thanks, chris
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Old 03-09-2011, 04:24 AM   #6
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interesting question, and this brings to light some science on scrying.

for example i have done scrying with a/c led light bulbs. if you are near-sight, take your glasses off and adjust the crossing of your eyes until the light you see starts forming patterns.

you will find this patterns coincide with your thought, and reveal answers in the abstract.

this is perhaps method used by nostradamus and others to make predictions. of course their predictions were abstract since they could have only associate with what they knew then.
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Old 04-06-2011, 12:10 PM   #7
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unity. simultaneity. infinity.
what does that even mean? do we exist in parallel universes, in which case how does the over all karma work? or does the double slit experiment - where the one electron goes through both slits - imply merely the potential of parallel universes?
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:23 PM   #8
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note: this post became long and i apologize if i could not get my thoughts across concisely. these are difficulty concepts to enunciate for me.

i believe the key here is to understand that knowing the definitive answer is not possible while behind the veil. it takes a higher perspective of reality, where all paradoxes are solved, as ra states, to "know" this information. for me personally i will give you my interpretation of the above information. this is in no way absolute but it stems from the knowledge gained from my personal awakening.

for me the answer to parallel universes lies in unity. its a hard concept to grasp but we are one. the entire creation is one. this oneness manifests itself in our specific space/time through sacred geometry. for me it took a literal revolution in scientific thought to grasp this. check out nassim haramein on youtube for more information. he has a nice brief 2 hour summary of his work, and then 6-8 hour conferences as well that go in-depth about his revolutionary breakthrough.

nassim proves how finite boundaries (atoms, cells, planets) are in separable from infinite potential. our "physical universe" is a manifestation of intelligent energy, as ra puts it. this energy, organizes into a fractal feedback structure. this is the mechanism of co-creation. you upload a specific set of information to the vacuum, and the universe manifests this for you. this is how finite and infinity are unified. all matter is a different resolution (due to energy densities) of this intelligent energy. a specific density will manifest as a planet, or quasar, or atom.

ra states: that which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. to have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. in an infinite creator there is only unity. you have seen simple examples of unity. you have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. this is a simplistic example of unity.

in the standard model of physics we use the material world to define the space, as haramein puts it. we see an atom, or a planet and go "oh there is something". when we really study the material world though, as ra states, its an illusion. physics has proven this concept. an atom is 99.99% space. we can't "see" the space because it is in perfect geometric harmony and it appears as empty. we need to understand that the space defines the material world. the intelligent energy structures our illusion, and manifests as an electron, cell etc. this is not only a metaphysical concept anymore. it is scientifically provable.

to route this rambling post back to the question posed about the double slit experiment. if you take the understanding provided above the electron is a very small manifestation of the vacuum energy. the intelligent energy acts as a medium, and as the electron moves through this medium, ripples or waves are seen by the observer. thats why the one electron creates two waves in the double slit experiment.

i hope this helps, i am sure there is some distortion in my thinking, and i welcome any thoughts or observations on my post. all is well, adonai.
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:47 PM   #9
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frodoking...if hologram existence needs electrons, then you are implying particles here...and not wave theory...creativity of oneness permits any imaginative outcome, would it not? therefore, all possiblities exist at once...particles or waves...physicality or non-dimensional thought forms...it is merely a matter of perception, isn't it, and one's willingness to accept what one perceives...the depth of one's perception energizes the ego's silvery screen whether you are awake or asleep...it is your willingness to accept what you perceive that establishes your own boundaries of existence...it is your own "thoughts" that determine your realm and the intermingling of these implied limits with those others of your kind that you encounter...every entity's world is unique...some more so than others...so if you have electrons flying through "slots" and it works for you...that's a good thing...
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:31 PM   #10
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thanks for feedback. good explanations for how it is possible.
(for those not familiar with the double slit experiment just do a word search, there are plenty of good explanations easily accessible on the web.)

my question concerns the consciousness aspect of the experiment. in a nutshell: observing with conscious awareness which slit the electron goes through collapses the wave into a particle.

i was curious what would happen if the unconscious awareness observed which slit the electron went through without the conscious aware mind knowing it. my guess is that this would collapse the wave into a particle for the unconscious mind only. however, the unconscious mind also knows what the conscious mind is thinking. therefore, the unconscious mind could see the electron as both a wave and a particle at the same time. a duel perspective if you will.

this may be the defining aspect of aware consciousness, and it's limitation, in that it can only see reality one way at a time; which may be a phenomenon of linear time thought.

i was wondering if anyone knew about any experiments/research regarding the unconscious minds observation of which slit the electron goes through? or quantum physics and the unconscious mind?
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:29 PM   #11
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dr fred alan wolf has produced a series of animations to explain quantum physics.

youtube 'dr quantum double slit experiment'

this video will explain simply what is happening at the quantum level
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:34 AM   #12
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i was wondering if anyone knew about any experiments/research regarding the unconscious minds observation of which slit the electron goes through? or quantum physics and the unconscious mind?
i am pretty sure it goes through both until you measure it. therefore its natural state is through both. an atheist would say parallel universes - although some physicist say that the wave is travelling backwards and that answers it. as a believer in karma, i think it merely shows the different routes already written on the map that we can take. once we choose, or measure, we/the electron only exists in one universe. imo.

to route this rambling post back to the question posed about the double slit experiment. if you take the understanding provided above the electron is a very small manifestation of the vacuum energy. the intelligent energy acts as a medium, and as the electron moves through this medium, ripples or waves are seen by the observer. thats why the one electron creates two waves in the double slit experiment. sorry, i do not follow
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:08 AM   #13
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i highly recommend the movie: what the bleep do we know &
the complementary documentary: down the rabbit hole (5 discs)

many subject matters including consciousness, quantum physics, emotions & more are explained in the documentary and demonstrated in the movie.

the double-slit experiment is discussed here.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:55 AM   #14
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hi. i'm confused about your query. how does one observe the double slit experiment if one is unconscious? are you referring to an altered state of consciousness of some type?
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:27 AM   #15
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i think this is interesting. been looking for a bookmark place on user cp, but perhaps it is not there.
i think that it's also energy that is being created and is also doing some creating...as this thread explains.
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:44 PM   #16
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okay...let's say the intelligent medium is the pond water...and the rock becomes the particle or small manifestation of vacuum energy...the observer then tosses the rock into the pond with the resultant double wave and ripple effect being duplicated from the single initial event...one rock causing many ripples...which side of the pond water sees and observes the ripples...which portion of the pond experiences the waves and multiplicity of the single event? and when the event horizon reaches an equal boudary what then happens creates multiple multiplicities as the waves and rebounds meet again...some canceling and others multiplying the initial event horizon...such is creativity with creaturehood of the observer, yes?
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:33 AM   #17
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okay...let's say the intelligent medium is the pond water...and the rock becomes the particle or small manifestation of vacuum energy...the observer then tosses the rock into the pond with the resultant double wave and ripple effect being duplicated from the single initial event...one rock causing many ripples...which side of the pond water sees and observes the ripples...which portion of the pond experiences the waves and multiplicity of the single event? and when the event horizon reaches an equal boudary what then happens creates multiple multiplicities as the waves and rebounds meet again...some canceling and others multiplying the initial event horizon...such is creativity with creaturehood of the observer, yes?
what you have described is the action of one wave - the initial ripples, and then two waves - when the wave rebounds, some of which constructivly interfere and some of which destructivly interfere. it does not, imo, explain how one particle appears to go through two slits at the same time. note, if the electron was a wave, it would go through both both slits so in effect the electron acts as if it were a wave.

what i like about this experiment is that there is no answer. that is it can only be explained if the electron is either a wave or in two places at the same time - neither of which make sense to the mainstream mind. it therefore forces us to accept that the universe is essentially magical - waves travelling backwards, parallel universes etc. what is more, not only does quantum physics show that observation destroys the ability to locate a particle, it also shows that the location of the experiment and who the observer is will affect the outcome! is it the law of attraction?
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:36 AM   #18
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dr fred alan wolf has produced a series of animations to explain quantum physics.

youtube 'dr quantum double slit experiment'

this video will explain simply what is happening at the quantum level
now that you are familiar with the double slit experiment at quantum level, you would realise the same processes occur in the mind of each observer. consciousness focuses its lens via the limited filters of the sense organs eg. we can only perceive visible light which is 0.0035% of the (linear scale) emf spectrum.

know that the mind has no firewall and is very susceptible to mind control mechanisms such as tv, mobile phone, educational, religious, culture programming. the mind is constantly receiving information: 400 billion bits of info per second, but we are only aware of 2,000 of those. for example, our eyes (camera) take in the frequencies but our visual cortex (in our brain) processes a tiny % of the information (like a movie editor) according to our thought patterns conditioned through our belief systems. subsequently we only perceive what we have conditioned ourselves to believe.

let go of the idea of who you were, let go of dogmas, let go of self limiting belief systems, let go of the idea that we need to comply to the pyramid structures of control; no-one can grant you freedom because you are already free. break out of the mass hypnosis and take back your creative power.

through meditation we can silence the constant mind chatter and focus our attention and hence intention internally, so that we are not so confined in the cage of physical reality perceived through our senses. find stillness/peace, use visualition to imagine what sort of world we each want to experience (this exercise also stimulates the pineal gland). eventually we can collectively manifest externally our imaginations of self where everyone is living in harmony with each other and nature, without the need to compete, toil and struggle for survival.

dissolve our conditioning, expand our consciousness - there is an infinite potential of experiences (like an electron exists in a sea of potential currents). embrace new paradigms of thought. change how you perceive yourself in relation to creator and creation and know with certainty that each observer/person is powerful and co-creating their reality. understand that we are all one consciousness each experiencing this virtual world subjectively; in fact there is no separation between creator and creations, no death, no you and i, just infinite potentials ... infinite expressions of god exploring self through infinite experiences.

the physical body will eventually die but awareness will always exist, changing holographic reality channels in perpetual self exploration.

lets be more conscious creators of this consensus reality, and free ourselves from limited expressions by returning to unity consciousness of infinite potential!


check out nassim haramein on youtube for more information. he has a nice brief 2 hour summary of his work, and then 6-8 hour conferences as well that go in-depth about his revolutionary breakthrough.

nassim proves how finite boundaries (atoms, cells, planets) are in separable from infinite potential. our "physical universe" is a manifestation of intelligent energy, as ra puts it. this energy, organizes into a fractal feedback structure. this is the mechanism of co-creation. you upload a specific set of information to the vacuum, and the universe manifests this for you. this is how finite and infinity are unified. all matter is a different resolution (due to energy densities) of this intelligent energy. a specific density will manifest as a planet, or quasar, or atom.
yes, compassionate love is the unified field.
see nassim haramein 'black whole'
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:15 PM   #19
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this is correct with the one addition that the conscious observer can collapse the ripples by observing them.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:08 PM   #20
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when only one side of the pond is being observed, one only sees the ripples and secondary influences...the actual event horizon occurs at the null point of the junction of the rock and wave...what does it looks like from beneath the water??? is it seen and felt in the same fashion? no it is not...yet the single event of the rock merging with the water does indeed create distinctly different "realms" arising out of the single causitive factor...granted we are using three dimensional analogies to deal with a multidimensional event horizon...and the written word meant to elicit the mental picture meant to impart complex theories of multidimensional existence is limiting...as ra has explanined in their workings...event horizons and their interpretations within this three dimensional realm require three dimensional pictograms, so to speak, to introduce the concept, but the understanding goes much deeper...and for this pond, well outside my depths...
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