[mr.memo]

sounds like your ego is on its way out.......

thats great, but if you judge whats happening and resist it all then the resistance will keep you from what you will become...infact what you always were...conciousness!

the veil of thinking is lifting my friend..let it happen...watch it happen...know that all is in its perfect place!

go well

glowstone

ps look up eckhart tolle!..this will help!

[paralelogram]

ltpg97 and glowstone

thank you both for your words. i am feeling more and more at peace with the veil dissolving away. let's all sit back and continue to do our part. all of the events going on are exactly what we need and the confirmation to know we are succeeding. let your light shine bright.

god bless

steven

[gooseCile]

greetings, dear friends! i am quite worried. there is something that is bothering me for some time now, and i was hoping that you can give me some guidance about this matter.

the thing is that everything is starting to look so unreal to me lately, as if the whole world is like some kind of huge holographic illusion. i mean i know the stuff i see or touch is real and solid, but a part of me is telling me that it is not real, and it is purposely designed to be that way. like a beeping red light inside my brain, telling me that there is something wrong here, something is out of place. i can't even explain how or why. can't describe the feeling neither, but it is there. the closest analogy i can make is it almost feels like i am watching a movie of myself. this sounds crazy but... i don't know. does my perception is playing some kind of tricks on me? honestly, i think that i am loosing my sanity.

if you have opinion or advice about this, please be so kind to share it with me. thank you!

best regards!

[hotsaucemidl]

this actually happened me today, i was bringing something into the sitting room and it just suddenly looked 'different'. everything was the same obviously but my perception of it was different, could have been caused by a bit of a headrush or something but i dont think so.

the same kind of thing has happened me for years where id see places around where i grew up as though i were a child. as in having vivid memories of seeing places around my house when i was younger, and then that perception becoming what i really saw. almost like a superimposition of my perception in the memory over my real perception, if that makes any sense...

anyway, it doesnt feel like im losing my grip on reality, its just novel and entertaining!

[Inettypofonee]

onepagelife,

what you describe sounds very familiar to what i've read of others' kundalini awakenings, where the actual physical world takes on the properties of a literal illusion. many "luminaries" describe similar disorienting experiences upon their awakening, some more 'severe' than others. i would say, to the best of your ability, trust the process and the source of the process, which after all is your own self. if what you are describing is what i suspect it to be (a kundalini awakening/initiation), things will even out over time and you'll learn to move through this somewhat "altered reality" quite naturally. if it feels too overwhelming, there are many experienced, awakened people who make themselves available to those moving through spiritual emergencies/emergences. also it might help to read about others' experiences of awakening to the illusiory nature of reality. pm me if you would like more information.

peace,

jellyfish

[seooptiman]

well what you see with your own two eyes is real. the question is do you belong in this reality that's presented to you? i wake up in the morning sometimes and even in the middle of the night and i'm unfamiliar with my surroundings even though i know it's my own bedroom. i feel like i'm not where i'm supposed to be.

for the last few years i've been getting the strange feeling that i don't belong in this reality. i feel like i belong somewhere else. among the stars perhaps or in another galaxy. i just don't know yet how to get back because "the elite" are suppressing the truth.

i am fully awake to this "play" or "illusion" that is going on on our planet right now and i'm trying to wake other people up who feel the same way i do. so don't feel alone. i'm right there with you.

[minowz]

@ltpg97

you sound like a wanderer. this would means that earth is not your native planet, but you chose to incarnate at this time in order to help others. the means of this help varies vastly because of the extreme variance of different planets/densities represented.

what all of these have in common is that they are vastly more harmonious and wise than earth. here's what ra says about it:

ra: i am ra. due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe. the most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them.

note that there are a fairly large number of wanderers at this time. when ra was asked in 1981, he said 75 million.

and yes, i've actually felt this way from a very young age. for me, it mostly manifested itself as an extreme interest in almost all spiritual and religious topics. it was a slow and difficult realization that others didn't share this interest.

[Aaron757]

@ltpg97

you sound like a wanderer. this would means that earth is not your native planet, but you chose to incarnate at this time in order to help others. the means of this help varies vastly because of the extreme variance of different planets/densities represented.

what all of these have in common is that they are vastly more harmonious and wise than earth. here's what ra says about it:

ra: i am ra. due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe. the most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them.

note that there are a fairly large number of wanderers at this time. when ra was asked in 1981, he said 75 million.

and yes, i've actually felt this way from a very young age. for me, it mostly manifested itself as an extreme interest in almost all spiritual and religious topics. it was a slow and difficult realization that others didn't share this interest.

hmmm...keeping an open mind about "wanderers", this has me wondering about myself. born in '74, keen interest from the beginning about all things spiritual/supernatural/otherworldly, definately introverted/alienated (still struggle w/ this), severely asthmatic. i have always felt a deep concern for others, that there is something important that they aren't "getting", though i always thought it to be a lack of trust (with a capital t--trust of/for life), lack of inner peace. as a kid i was hyper-sensitive to the moods of adults, and could clearly see they had "lost something", that their lives were mundane and that they were very competitive about most things (and that i never wanted to be that way). as i grew, both my parents (moreso my dad) worked to "root me in reality" because my imagination was maybe too vivid, i wasn't interested in things everyday things like sports and i didn't understand the injustices of life. though never suicidal, i always looked forward to/was interested in death and what might come after. just didn't like it here all that much. i can understand why that would be disconcerting to adults.

over years and years i have always struggled to stay "rooted in reality", and am (as much as i can be) very reclusive, my mind filled with all kinds of thoughts about "what is real?". the real problem is that i have been taught this kind of thinking is wrong from an early age, and i question the wanderer thing as just being another flight of fancy/fantasy/wish fulfillment type of thinking that i've always had. one thing is certain and that is that i've never felt "at home" here, and i've never quite fit in among most "regular" people, even in my own family. i am very grateful however to have a mom and brother that seem to have some inkling of understanding of me, and possibly a hint of familiarity of these kinds of feelings (of alienation and being a little different from others--not so much aliens!), though they are both far more 'competitive' and willing to have/engage 'enemies' than i am. niether of them understand how i don't view the world in 'enemies'. this has actually caused rifts and problems in the past, just due to a complete inability to understand.

the discovery of the kind of information on dw's site a couple years ago kinda blew the doors off. "disclosure" has been a single-minded obsession ever since having my decades-long intuition that *we are not alone* validated so strongly. however i've never really considered whether or not i could actually be a wanderer--i'm almost afraid to let myself go down that path, as it could sever whatever small cord roots me in everyday life. i can just picture my dad doing backflips of disappointment over his son being just sooooo "out there"....haha. well, maybe i'll find out one day, in this life, the next or somewhere in between.

anyway, sorry for the hijack. this thread just got me thinking, and this is the first i've written or even given much thought to the possibility of being a wanderer.

[CAxrrAYN]

thank you for sharing jivatman. yeah, for quite a few years now i felt that i wasn't from earth. i'm always looking up at the stars and i have a fascination with sci-fi movies and shows. the x-files, star trek and stargate sg-1 being some of my favorites.

it's funny ra mentions allergies because all my life i've had allergies and i continue to have them to this day. i know of nothing that will completely cure them except that claritin d will help some but won't due the job.

and i do try to help people awaken to what really is going on but it's hard. some people laugh at me. other get really made and call me an "idiot." then there are those like my friends who are right on the same page as me. they know the deception going on and ufo phenomena and know they are being played and lied to.

alex collier who is an andromeda/et contactee, said 2 things that have been making me question certain things.

1. why do you have to pay to live on a planet you were born on?

2. the earth religions are a belief system setup to control the masses.

now whether you believe in him or not those two comments among other things are very interesting if you think about. i wish i didn't have to work for money. i'm a freelance computer technician. i love fixing computers for people. i would do it for free but the powers that be setup this money system long ago to control the masses to where if you don't have money you but food and live under a roof with a bed.

of course i'm barely making ends meet while the elite are living in luxury from the billions of dollars they make.

now as far as religion, i was born and raised a christian but i don't attend church anymore. my dad used to convince me to go to church every sunday but i could never get into it for some reason. i still believe in the creator and pray for peace, love and unity for all mankind. i'm reading up on the history of religion and starting to realize their are so many references to aliens and ufo's. i consider myself more spiritual than anything else now.

@ltpg97

you sound like a wanderer. this would means that earth is not your native planet, but you chose to incarnate at this time in order to help others. the means of this help varies vastly because of the extreme variance of different planets/densities represented.

what all of these have in common is that they are vastly more harmonious and wise than earth. here's what ra says about it:

ra: i am ra. due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe. the most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them.

note that there are a fairly large number of wanderers at this time. when ra was asked in 1981, he said 75 million.

and yes, i've actually felt this way from a very young age. for me, it mostly manifested itself as an extreme interest in almost all spiritual and religious topics. it was a slow and difficult realization that others didn't share this interest.

[mosypeSom]

i reckon i'd better get into the ra material.

i'm fairly certain i'm a wanderer too. i'm also constantly looking at the stars, and i'm so fortunate to live out of town here in the land of enchantment that i can even see the band of the milky way (native americans called it the star road).

it's funny a few years back i decided i am a sufferer of asperger's syndrome, which is a form of high functioning autism, but now i take it in stride as part of the symptoms of being a wanderer. i've always always always felt weird, not of this earth, different from other folks from the time i was very small, and i absolutely devoured books on the occult and weirdness from middle school on. i was reading the seth material, crowley, and alice bailey in my teens. that's some heavy reading for a 14 year old, lol.

i also have reclusive tendencies which i struggle to overcome, also had early problems with the church (i think i was getting in trouble around age 6 in catechism for asking hard to answer questions, and i clearly remember renouncing my catholicism because the grown ups insisted that animals have no souls), and i also always felt that most people are 'sensebound' (can't detect anything outside of their 5 senses).

why do you have to pay to live on a planet you were born on?

i think about this deeply. i feel super-strong connections to pre-reservation native cultures, perhaps because they lived in a self-sufficient, community based, non-economic and completely sustainable culture with deep connections to the world of spirit that worked until europeans came along and messed it up (and then had the audacity to call america free). and, trying to do my part on behalf of personal freedom and responsibility, i'm slooowly becoming self sufficient myself, growing as much food as i can, gonna build me an earthship and go off-grid (google it!). i think the native pre-colonialization way of life, while not entirely practical for us to go back to, offers us a blueprint or a model or a springboard of sorts for a new way of living in the coming age.

the earth religions are a belief system setup to control the masses.

one of many, perhaps. it's funny, no one even considers the possibility that money just isn't necessary. back to the native model, property was community owned, people used what they needed and gave away any excess. there was no lack. . .and no money. it's freakin awesome. this so called reality we are living in isn't all it's cracked up to be. i recently attended the ceremonial in san felipe pueblo...and i had an epiphany there, that this is what is real, they were doing what they've been doing for hundreds, maybe thousands of years, dancing the spirits down to earth. maybe 200 dancers, in traditional dress, all dancing in rhythm, their bare feet making contact with the earth, singing a prayer for corn, and the sky darkened and the rain fell. that was the most real thing i've ever experienced. take off your shoes and feel your mother beneath your feet. that"s what is real. earth. nature. spirit.
the cities are designed to cut us off from that. get out of that dang city. lol what a rant! i'll stop now:d

i'm so happy to have found this forum where i can actually make contact with other wanderers who 'get it!'

[Mappaindy]

since a was a kid i've been always concerned about the reality and those big questions we all ask knowing theres still no answer for us. i developed some kind of "places anxiety", i got nerveuss in very specific places without reason, even in my grandma's garden. reality, for me, has been always that i am not really seeing, i always felt that reality is a concession.
and yes, im also an alienated person, but i try to open myself, i make my self listen to others because i know they are also me, this is a struggle im proud of (i still have bad days too), and i have felt most of things you guys describe here, but i began to pay attention to this, lets say, signs on me just a couple of years ago. my problem is that i dont feel like saying im a wonderer or anything, i have difficulties supporting any given idea about anything, some things vibrate with me, but i would never call my self a wanderer, or pantheonist or catholic or communist. but im with all of you always, because it doesnt matter if at the end we are all returning to the source.

p.d
some time ago i started noticing things with my eyes closed. im pretty aware of the closed eye hallucinations, i've always seen that magenta/blue/green noise with my eyes closed before sleeping. but now its like i can get a focus sight of it, i can see figures, the best way i can describe it is lika a caleidoscope made of cells or somekind of micro organism. they move fast and disolve again into the darkness. now, in this closed eye "darkness" i also started to notice a source of light that comes from up or down from me. also, all my life i have dreamed with a lot of magenta/purple/violet colors, like the atmosphere turning these colors and starting to vibrate and with that vibrations buildings came down and people dessapeared. any ideas or insights about this guys?,
anyways, sorry if my english is not that good, but i tried my best!, peace, love and light for everyone.

[Relsenlilky]

have you every wondered.....

that we are always in the same space? that the earth moves under our feet like a treadmill, as though i'm not walking to the store, rather i am drawing the store to me by using a tool i know... walking? rather than going to a place where people happily engage me, i am drawing that place and aura to me?

it is a fun exercise in paradigm perspective :d

[mobiphones]

as alan watts said, first you must go out of your mind to find sanity, or something like that. in any case, what you're experiencing is a reconnection to your true self. it's an identity change where you are letting go of illusion and connecting with reality in truth but it feels like you're letting go of reality in truth and becoming delusional.

i'll give you an example of how to understand this of how the different dimensions were created. imagine a cube in your mind made of nothing. you're just aware of the shape and the cube should be transparent. now, create 999 more cubes just like it...a row of 10 cubes length, then 10 rows of 10, and 10 stacks of planes of cubes to make one big cube out of the smaller ones. so now what do you have? one big cube? nope. you have 1000 cubes! the big cube is an illusion. the mind says 'the sum of all of the parts makes up the whole' and so it can believe that a bunch of parts is something. combined with the universal law of free will you can believe in the big cube, when it doesn't exist.

so, what's happening is you are beginning to see the difference between the one big cube and 1000 cubes perspective. you're whole life you believed you were the big cube, but are now realizing that the big cube doesn't exist (aka 'loosing your grip on reality') and that you are observing the big cube from the perspective of the tiny little 1000 cubes which are the only thing in existence. in other words, your identity changed. get used to it. this is what it means when enlightened masters say god is inward, your true nature is inside of yourself.

[aceriscoolon]

the same kind of thing has happened me for years where id see places around where i grew up as though i were a child. as in having vivid memories of seeing places around my house when i was younger, and then that perception becoming what i really saw. almost like a superimposition of my perception in the memory over my real perception, if that makes any sense...

i must say it's the first time i heard someone talking about these strange superimposed visions. i have had these for years now. quite vivid sometimes, like if i was physically at 2 places at the same time. never knew what it was. some of the visions, are not from my current life memory tough. these are quite weird to see/felt. strangely, most of them(75%) are about one place on the planet. it's a place where i lived for 4 years when i was 15. i also have 2 past life-time memories relating to this place. it's seems that my soul have a preference for this place !

@onepagelife: about your sens of loosing reality. i must say this is a side effect of your consciousness expanding into new realities. you're just becoming aware of it. like daydreaming while being fully present in the now moment. it is strange and uncomfortable at first but you get used to it. strangely, deep breaths help to refocus in the present moment.

my 2 cents

franck

[oyymoss]

when i think of myself losing grip on reality it is usually when i go into public places such as the mall or school. i find myself looking at all of the potential in everyone i observe and realize they aren't aware of it themselves or have the slightest clue!

i find myself down at times because i try so hard to live with unlimited love and a positive understanding in my life and i can not find it in my own reality other than within myself. the farther i travel in my spiritual journey and path to enlightenment, the more disconnected i feel from that of my own reality and the people with in it.

i often worry about those who will not awaken or be aware of what is going on. i know it is their own decision to dwell in the 3d and work out their own fear and karma or to raise their vibrations with love and positivity to make the shift from 3d to 5d.

i wonder a lot to myself if by continuing to live each day with unconditional love and a positive understanding of all situations i encounter if i really am making a difference... am i really effecting those around me? is the unconditional love or positive spirit i carry each day really being manifested in those around me? sometimes i feel like i'm crazy to believe that the love, courtesy, and all embracing attitude i carry will change anyone's heart or character.

being a young 20 year old college student with an immense curiosity that has initiated my journey, i feel somewhat overwhelmed by the greater cosmic/spiritual/evolutionary events taking place and by understanding that there are outer influences of higher and lower vibrational beings/entities. (i.e. good and evil) i guess the real reason i have this fear within is because i know i have no control over what happens or who with make the shift.

if anyone can relate to any of my thoughts/feelings or can simply give me some words of wisdom/inspiration they will be greatly appreciated.

one love,
steven

[MartZubok]

when i think of myself losing grip on reality it is usually when i go into public places such as the mall or school. i find myself looking at all of the potential in everyone i observe and realize they aren't aware of it themselves or have the slightest clue!

i find myself down at times because i try so hard to live with unlimited love and a positive understanding in my life and i can not find it in my own reality other than within myself. the farther i travel in my spiritual journey and path to enlightenment, the more disconnected i feel from that of my own reality and the people with in it.

i often worry about those who will not awaken or be aware of what is going on. i know it is their own decision to dwell in the 3d and work out their own fear and karma or to raise their vibrations with love and positivity to make the shift from 3d to 5d.

i wonder a lot to myself if by continuing to live each day with unconditional love and a positive understanding of all situations i encounter if i really am making a difference... am i really effecting those around me? is the unconditional love or positive spirit i carry each day really being manifested in those around me? sometimes i feel like i'm crazy to believe that the love, courtesy, and all embracing attitude i carry will change anyone's heart or character.

being a young 20 year old college student with an immense curiosity that has initiated my journey, i feel somewhat overwhelmed by the greater cosmic/spiritual/evolutionary events taking place and by understanding that there are outer influences of higher and lower vibrational beings/entities. (i.e. good and evil) i guess the real reason i have this fear within is because i know i have no control over what happens or who with make the shift.

if anyone can relate to any of my thoughts/feelings or can simply give me some words of wisdom/inspiration they will be greatly appreciated.

one love,
steven

wow.. moments after posting i read "the quarantine uplifts" i have spent much of my meditation time on focusing us getting help fast from the ets who are here and wanted to help us if he just asked. ive prayed that we please receive help in our horrible situation. please allow us free ourselves from this old order. i can say i truly feel like my prayers have been answered after reading "the quarantine uplifts"

[mealiusarses]

when i think of myself losing grip on reality it is usually when i go into public places such as the mall or school. i find myself looking at all of the potential in everyone i observe and realize they aren't aware of it themselves or have the slightest clue!

i find myself down at times because i try so hard to live with unlimited love and a positive understanding in my life and i can not find it in my own reality other than within myself. the farther i travel in my spiritual journey and path to enlightenment, the more disconnected i feel from that of my own reality and the people with in it.

i often worry about those who will not awaken or be aware of what is going on. i know it is their own decision to dwell in the 3d and work out their own fear and karma or to raise their vibrations with love and positivity to make the shift from 3d to 5d.

i wonder a lot to myself if by continuing to live each day with unconditional love and a positive understanding of all situations i encounter if i really am making a difference... am i really effecting those around me? is the unconditional love or positive spirit i carry each day really being manifested in those around me? sometimes i feel like i'm crazy to believe that the love, courtesy, and all embracing attitude i carry will change anyone's heart or character.

being a young 20 year old college student with an immense curiosity that has initiated my journey, i feel somewhat overwhelmed by the greater cosmic/spiritual/evolutionary events taking place and by understanding that there are outer influences of higher and lower vibrational beings/entities. (i.e. good and evil) i guess the real reason i have this fear within is because i know i have no control over what happens or who with make the shift.

if anyone can relate to any of my thoughts/feelings or can simply give me some words of wisdom/inspiration they will be greatly appreciated.

one love,
steven

hi steven,

i feel the same way you do. being am et wanderer myself, i wonder if i will go back to my true home (not earth) and be with the one's i truly love and really miss, after the shift. i've always felt disconnected. i am more connected it seems when i watch my favorite sci-fi shows such as stargate and star trek as well as a lot of my favorite sci-fi movies. or when i connect with people who are awake just like you and i are.

as i've stated before, i feel like i don't belong here. i try to live with unconditional love but some people are so judgmental it's hard. but i do try. i wish i had all the answers for what is to come. there is so much information out there right now but without a crystal ball, it's hard to know.

with love and enlightment,
patrick

[Lauramalina]

ive been feeling like that for a long while tbh. its a bit like that film the truman show lol although i know i'm not living in a tv set and everyone around me is fake but yes life is a very strange experience.

with the feeling of being on the outside of yourself looking in feeling a bit like a spectator i remember when i was a child, probably my earliest memory tbh which is really weird. i had lived with my gran the first few years of my life and my mother was away doing goodness knows what lol anyway i remember the day she came back for me to take me with her and i was hiding under the sink in the kitchen and didn't want to go with her i can still see the whole scene so clearly in my head and remember i was crying but the weird thing is i can also see it from a different perspective where i can see myself half in the cupboard trying to get away and crying as if i'm standing in front of myself watching myself.

really have no explanation for that at all but its all so clear from both perspectives of being me hiding and seeing myself hiding. i was about 3 years old at the time.

[Spongebob]

i too have been having perception issues more so as of late. the past few months have been hard to focus at work. i'm fine at home when i'm doing what i want to do, but when at work it's been difficult to stay grounded. my energy is all up in my crown which makes it hard to do construction (my work) and actualy makes it dangerous as i'm not completly focused on the physical job at hand.

i've also been seeing things reversed, blinking, then seeing them righted. blueprints, words, even pieces of material we deal with at work. it's strange, i literally tried to put something together the other day (something i've done 100s of times) and was wondering why it wasn't working? it was reversed! i saw it before and knew undeniably that it was flipped around. again this makes me have to really pay attention to what i'm doing.

it's pretty cool at any rate.:d

[w4HPpbSW]

the things you are speaking of have to do with many things. one of which is the switch between linear thought pattern (left side logic brain), and spiral thought pattern(right side artistic brain). an artist does not paint in a straight line. they build a painting with concentric layers. likewise a mathematician will look at a brilliant spiral galaxy take measurements, and create mind boggling equations that only computers and other mathematicians can understand.