[moopierof]

Well than my question is, do "normal" people really have stress like there's no tommorrow or is it mostly in their heads? Is that why you see a lot of them looking their age or older?

I mean I do agree both sets of people have mostly different life experiences but each life experience someone has is different for them. I would think disabled people would have some stresses.

I know the average person complains about bills, taxes, etc but a disabled person may stress about not being able to find a job, driving a car, living on their own, and basically normal lives. Those are the things normal people take for grant it.

[bpejjssoe]

Well than my question is, do "normal" people really have stress like there's no tommorrow or is it mostly in their heads? Is that why you see a lot of them looking their age or older?

I mean I do agree both sets of people have mostly different life experiences but each life experience someone has is different for them. I would think disabled people would have some stresses.

I know the average person complains about bills, taxes, etc but a disabled person may stress about not being able to find a job, driving a car, living on their own, and basically normal lives. Those are the things normal people take for grant it.

I don't agree that most "normal" people take the way we live for granted. Our lives are hard whether we admit it or not. We do most of the evolution, as far as technology and building off of our world goes. And people have made a lot of mistakes, I think, when it comes to the health(?) of our planet and ourselves and just tons of things that play into our lives like relationships with people we know.. So we're worrying about that too. Unless we all decide to beat ourselves up in the brain and mentally disable ourselves, which won't happen, we are going to continue to live thinking on all these complicated and serious matters(fun or not). Mentally disabled people don't worry about all that. We take care of them if necessary.. BUT I think even if things affect "normal" people and mentally disabled people in different ways, they can still have the same level of stress knocked upon us all.

I'm not degrading what mentally disabled people go through. There are people who live on the streets because they can't function the way we do, and their lives are not set up in such a way where they can be taken care of as well as others in their situation. There are shelters that feed them. And by the way, they can be pretty rude. Not all of them are exactly thankful for what we do. My school goes to a rescue mission every tuesday to feed these people with stuff that people donate. And that food is actually good, because we eat it before we serve. I know there are tons of things that I don't know as far as their challenges go, and I accept that I probably sound stupid right now.

I'm just saying... people like us, with the housing, food, beds, and computers, do not take things for granted as much as some of us might think-of course with many acceptions. At least that's how I feel.

[moopierof]

Okay perhaps you don't but there's a lot of people who probably don't think about it.

I agree there's a lot of disabled people who can be rude, especially to others who are disabled but have you ever thought that having to be taken care of is a stress to them? Like they can't be as independent as they wish?

[bpejjssoe]

Okay perhaps you don't but there's a lot of people who probably don't think about it.

I agree there's a lot of disabled people who can be rude, especially to others who are disabled but have you ever thought that having to be taken care of is a stress to them? Like they can't be as independent as they wish?

Sorry, maybe some of the things I said didn't stick out enough, but here:

...---------... BUT I think even if things affect "normal" people and mentally disabled people in different ways, they can still have the same level of stress knocked upon us all.

I'm not degrading what mentally disabled people go through. ------- I know there are tons of things that I don't know as far as their challenges go, and I accept that I probably sound stupid right now.

I'm just saying... people like us, with the housing, food, beds, and computers, do not take things for granted as much as some of us might think-of course with many acceptions. At least that's how I feel.

[moopierof]

Yes, I understand you aren't degrading the mentally disabled. But it's just a very sensitive topic for me. I mean I understand that it's different for someone with a severe or moderate disability, they are supposed to be unaware of their surroundings. But the ones that are slight or mild are really aware of their surrounding and they are taught they are different. And they do get their share of discrimination and being low on the spectrum gives you a drive to prove you aren't an invalid so trying to prove your worth is really stressful. Sometimes you work so hard but it's just not enough.

[bpejjssoe]

Yes, I understand you aren't degrading the mentally disabled. But it's just a very sensitive topic for me. I mean I understand that it's different for someone with a severe or moderate disability, they are supposed to be unaware of their surroundings. But the ones that are slight or mild are really aware of their surrounding and they are taught they are different. And they do get their share of discrimination and being low on the spectrum gives you a drive to prove you aren't an invalid so trying to prove your worth is really stressful. Sometimes you work so hard but it's just not enough.

Well, I do understand. I had to leave my home school, which is mainstream because I'm not getting my education because I don't understand what the teachers are saying, or looking at text. It's very hard for me to follow. I've had such a hard time with school, in getting my work done, and being in class enough to pass. I'm not even sure if it's because of the fact that I had been missing so much of each class, depression or if I should have just started school earlier than most kids. I have trouble catching things...I'm not good with Math(well, algebra and geomatry) because I get too many things confused, Science is an anomaly to me, and History might be easier if I could remember half of what I learn for longer than half a day or even right off the paper as my eyes read over. Or maybe I just don't want to admit that I didn't study when I had the chance. But when I get home, I'm not thinking about "the" quiz tomorrow, I'm thinking about ALL the quizzes/tests that I have to study for tomorrow, all assigned about 3 days before, for like 20-30 questions which are not just vocabulary. With homework/big projects, too. It's too much for me.. I just go to take a nap or come on the computer because I really can't stand it. And then I think about everyone else at school, and wonder how they manage to pass with all these A's and B's, with the occasional C... just most of the kids that I had been around at the school, were very good about this. I didn't even want to go there. Now I'm very far behind, and I'm really not sure I can catch up at this rate. I'd be two grades behind(or more just based on what I remember from past learnt stuff in general) at my school. That's not acceptable to me and I'm not sure I can change it. Do you know how stupid I feel? Even if I were not considered mentally disabled, I feel like I might as well be because of what I've done to my life so far. I'm worried about being independant and taking care of myself when I'm older. I'll be 17 in April. I don't have a lot of time, realistically. I feel like I can talk, and not walk. I do want to prove my worth, I am stressed about it. my surroundings scare me, and I feel like time is going against me. Everything seems to go far ahead, from far behind, as I stand here. I am aware that this is only myself thinking about it that way. But even so, now what, you know?


Sorry... just wanted to...explain myself.

[moopierof]

I totally understand math and hard sciences were not my fortay either.

[moopierof]

But to go back on topic, I guess that answers some of my question of why some disabled people look younger than they do. But trust me I don't always feel 17 LOL

[Xtatotvk]

What is "normal people"?

[moopierof]

Apparently there's an accepted normal out there.

[Rffkwfct]

Exactly, pathseeker! When talking about my son I always referred to him as normal, because to him, the way his life was, was normal. When talking about what most people refer to as normal, I used (and still do) the term 'typical' instead. Because really, what is normal anyway? To each individual person, they are normal!

[moopierof]

Well yes, but you can't deny that we have standards to what is normal/typical. And people shouldn't be berated for wanting to achieve that or a better position in life.


I may be disabled but I can see through what I think is stupid as heck PC crap to make sure no feelings are hurt.

[Rffkwfct]

I wasn't trying to berate or be PC. I loved my son very much, and when explaining things to people who don't have a family member with special needs, it was easier for them to understand what I meant when I explained it this way. For example, it was a common thing for my son to chew on toys to the point of them being completely mutilated and full of dents from his teeth. For him that was normal. If I tried to explain that to someone who didn't know us that well, I'd get a weird look. I then would tell them that it's not necessarily typical for all kids his age to do the same, but it was normal for him and other children with Angelman Syndrome.

I'm sorry if you took my reply wrong, but again I wasn't trying to berate or be PC. And besides even if I was trying to be PC, what's wrong with not wanting to hurt someone else's feelings?

[moopierof]

Sorry, it's just not you but it's just a liberal idea I picked up from college and a relative of mine that has a disability and absolutely hates what she deems as "society" and thinks I'm hurting myself by trying to better/normalize my life.

I'm sick of it. And I've just heard it from the liberal media and crap.

[moopierof]

And also if there's no such thing as normal than why treat and medicate the disabled to "normalize" them.

So to me the saying and logic just does not hold as a whole.

[Rffkwfct]

Sorry, it's just not you

Okay, good. Because seriously, I really wasn't trying to upset anyone.

About the medicating, I can't really speak too much about that, because we've never been in that situation. The only medications my son was ever on were for his physical health. He suffered from seizures and reflux, both of which affected him physically.

[moopierof]

Sorry if this sounds off topic but has MaryRose or Rosemary been around?