[giturbewan]

i watched the george green interview as soon as it appeared online - by myself. i was hesitant to show it to my 2 best mates - the three of us are like minded and seem to agree on most everything regarding 2012.

however, i found another presentation that george green did on google - the big picture. so, the three of us watched it. and we had a healthy discussion on george green's credibility - which led me to actually email project camelot - something i would never normally dream of doing - i realise they probably won't have time to read it, but i felt inclined to write it. i'll attach it here, because frankly, i wonder if any of you on the forum can answer some of my/our questions...

-----original message-----
sent: friday, 25 april 2008 2:46 am
subject: total confusion on where burish stands - does he even know?
importance: high

g’day kerry and bill,

you guys are totally awesome. i genuinely hope that you both stay happy, healthy and safe because we need you! more of you!

today i checked out burish’s forum and found a statement that he made that shows that he is in support of hillary clinton… doesn’t this completely go against what he is advising us is the best course of events that we should hope to occur? prior to this evening i was a big burish supporter (yet, an even bigger david wilcock supporter), but now, i’m just not so sure. please, correct me if i am taking anything he says the wrong way…

i’ll cut and paste his forum comment here in case it disappears:

unfortunately i am going to have to decline the offer for endorsement, and as i also suspect one of the 3 human candidates presently running for president of the united states of america, will probably win. my personal endorsement remains with senator clinton.

dan

last edit: apr 20, 2008, 6:39am by dan

http://www.neweaglesforum.proboards1...read=86&page=6


on another note, regarding george green, my friends and i just don’t know what to think about him. if we may be so blunt (without causing any offence), we believe that you may have lessened the integrity of project camelot by adding him to your list of interviewees. the reason we think this, is because after viewing his google video – the big picture, we found it extremely hard not to take him seriously at precisely the point in his presentation where he shows the billy meier photos of:

1. ‘the wedding cake craft’ (c’mon, it just looks too fake…)
2. the pleiadian wearing that extremely fake tin foil looking ‘space suit’ (seen no-where else, including in artist sketches of other pleidian’s)
3. the fake look of the ‘laser gun’ and the use of such old technology (although not all of us agree on this point)
4. the video footage of the craft swaying back and forth as if suspended on a string like a pendulum…
5. the photos of the grey autopsy (weren’t these debunked ages ago as fake?)

there are other smaller points, but once you start picking, you can’t stop…

one might believe everything george says if it wasn’t for the abovementioned points that have been argued endlessly everywhere all over the internet for a very long time now.

if you google george green and project camelot, you’ll find that there are other people out there on other forums that just don’t know why you would interview him either. you seem to be losing rank in their eyes.

in the eyes of my friends and i, i don’t think you could lose any sort of respect, regardless of what you do, because you have ‘woken us up’ (for lack of better wording) to a whole new world of important information and messages. you must get sick of hearing it, but we are truly grateful for your work. we check the ‘what’s new’ page twice a day and tingle with delight when you add new content! when the latest wilcock video was discovered, we had the kids in bed, the laptop plugged into the big screen tv, munchies, and our own spot on the couch sorted out within 3 minutes!

in closing, i would like to thank you so much for taking the time to read this email, and i would be very interested in your comments re dan’s statement on hillary clinton, if you have the time to reply.

much love and light to you and yours xxxx

tamara
sydney, nsw, australia

------ end -------

now, my friends and i are not saying we don't beleive in the pleiadian's, but i am confused and unsure about some aspects of the billy meier encounters (named above) and in turn, this leads us to wonder about george green too.

to whomever has the transcript of the project camelot george green interview, i'd love a copy as well. many thanks!

[inilbowly]

one of the feelings i got after watching these video's is that it talked more about separation, rather than unity or one. it has been now several days since, but the same thoughts are there.

with the energy being of one and of unity, why would i feel this...

my own energy raised and was on alert 4say.... as i digested the story and what was being passed....

[Calluffence]

ya, i really got the creeps from the interview with george. the talk about pedophiles, freebasing and the way he fondled those coins in his hand..... all made my skin crawl. this was nothing new to me or even shocking at all. it just made me wonder about his motives. the material keeps creeping back into my mind, too, like sticky, gooey. but project camelot doesn't have to promise it's all true. they put it out there for our discernment. thanks be for that.

[ggdfgtdfffhfyj]

this interview didn't resonate well with me. it made me want to buy gold and silver coins and run out to costco to buy emergency food and supplies. the only love in that moment for me was love of self. if a time ever comes that i need to protect myself, i'm sure it will come from my higher self in some way supported by synchronistic signs.

love and light...great to have you all back!
steve

[sciectotacype17]

i have to agree with all of the above...

so many red flags went up while i watched the george green video that they are too numerous to mention here. but, most of all, i got an uncomfortable feeling that he is too into himself and his accomplishments/achievements.

he didn't have anything positive to say when david wilcock's name was mentioned, either. instead, he changed the subject. not a good sign, in my opinion.... not that we all have to agree on everything, but to keep my attention the information should be somewhat on the same page with the general topics discussed here at divine cosmos.

perhaps bill and kerry are simply putting everything out there for folks like us to sort through in order to come up with intelligent decisions on what to believe. i am behind them 100% in their efforts to inform. but george green came off as a phony.

keep up the good work practicing discernment, guys! looks like a lot of us are on the same page with this topic.

love and light,
nancy

[giturbewan]

hi all,

as pasted a little up on the page, i emailed project camelot not long ago regarding george green (and dan burish) and this morning i received a response from bill ryan (and kerry cassidy) that i thought i would post here (at bill's permission) for those who might be curious to see what project camelot might have to say.

i didn't expect a response so quickly, so i am grateful that bill and kerry felt my email was as important to them to respond to as it was to me to write it.

here it is:

-----original message-----
from: bill ryan and kerry cassidy
sent: tuesday, 29 april 2008 12:51 am
subject: re: total confusion on where burisch stands - does he even know?
importance: high

hi, tamara -

thanks for your message, and it’s a pleasure to hear from you. you raise a lot of points! in response, as best i (bill) can...

we love dan dearly, and respect him fully, but do disagree with him about his stance on hillary clinton. we talked with him about this personally over a long and interesting dinner in las vegas on 1 april.

running the risk of misrepresenting him, my best understanding of his position is that he’s a traditional patriot who believes that a strong military us with a strong foreign policy is the way to go. he believes, i think, that hillary is likely to be ‘strong’ in that sense. our view, in contrast, is that she’s a pawn of the illuminati and is more likely than obama to be compliant in plunging the world into an even more precarious position than it is already.

we did not let our (genuinely amiable and pleasant) exchange of opinions to interfere with our dinner... or any other aspect of our friendship. dan is a good man, doing the best he can under enormous pressures, and is as entitled as any of us to hold his personal views.

there’s also another reason why he admires hillary, which is confidential (concerning her and her attitude to certain events) and which dan has asked us not to share. we are also fully aware of this. please forgive any understandable frustration you may feel by our not being able to share this bit of personal backstory.

some of george green’s views and positions are controversial (there’s a euphemism for you!), but we felt what he presents is so important that it (like dan’s technical testimony on stargate technology and visiting future humans) is in our view too important to ignore or dismiss with a convenient wave of the hand.

for me personally, the one single most important part of the video was about a minute or so in from the very start when we presented the outtake in the car (actually, on our way to a meal after the interview) in which george mentions his conversation with the governor of colorado who “had his ticket” to australia (presumably, pine gap).

that stunned us, and precipitated a long continuing conversation in the restaurant about illuminati plans for population reduction (c.f. alex jones’ endgame) that unfortunately was just too noisy to record.

george himself is no longer stunned (in the same way!) with his own information, because he’s been living with it for a long time. he’s been presenting much the same message for several years now. so he has learned to smile... he’s an incredibly amiable and pleasant person, on and off camera... the very nicest, most courteous, generous, laid back man.

at the moment, he has a very strong sense of purpose which is heightening every week. he’s traveling around the country talking to all the people who will listen. kerry met with him again in la a couple of days ago where he was addressing a private group.

he’s not making this stuff up. these events may not transpire... but they sure will if we all sit back on our heels and continue to watch tv. he’s doing something about it in the only way he knows, and so he communicates a warning.

if he is to believed, he’s only the messenger anyway - the pleiadians (or whoever his sources may be!) are using him to convey vital information which feels pretty important and resonates with us. we are part of the ‘ground crew’ that george describes, and so may you be and anyone else you feel intuitively you should forward this message to (which is fine to do).

the least we can all do is listen carefully. on our part, we’re taking it seriously... read our recent http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html page (‘timeline 1, variant 83’), in which nuclear exchanges are also mentioned (as ‘seen’ in the 2007 time portal intelligence probe), and marry this information together. that’s why we stand by our interview.

with our very best wishes,

bill and kerry

------- end email --------

well, that's interesting (about dan burish) and almost worthy of starting a new thread! but i won't, unless other people also have something to say about it.

cheers,

tamarie

[curcercanty]

well, if we are splitting into 3 different timelines,(negative4th, positive 4th, and repeat 3rds) mabey that is the outcome for one of them. it is certainly not the outcome for mine though. i have been having dreams and visions since birth about the outcome, and it is good in general, well, it is wonderful in the end actually, with 2012 being the end of this chaos, and the beginging of personal freedom creation/manifestation, etc. where my dreams and visions strongly lead, there is no need for money, just a love for gardening and sharing beautiful landscapes, food, flowers, and music with others etc....the biggest conflicts are illusions,and the real ones are personal, for the purpose of personal growth....conflicts are ending as creation is begining...

but againnnnn, this is just my personal opinion!

[phenterminediett]

thank you all for sharing opinions and feelings on green's interview!

it is important that these things are discussed and chewed over, imho!

i would like to add some positive light ...the most important thing george said in this current project camelot interview for me is this one simple statement:

"everything we do, everything...should be spiritual!"

that may not be exactly how he said it...but it resonated with me powerfully.

if we re-learn how to lace each and every thing we do with spirituality... the whole world in front of us will resonate with unconditional love. and i feel that is where we are headed more intently each and every day, at least i feel this in my life in front of me.

[angeldimmon]

apparently you all have not truly read the law of one. ra acknowledges dark energies in the 4-d neg and up to 5-d neg. how could any logical mind not allow a conversation about their agenda? to do so woulld be to say that the opposite does not exist. you are all buying into fear. by not acknowledging an opposite. keep in mind most importantly that is these precise opposites to allow the (dna/ cosciousness) growth. as was written in the ra series. perhaps there are a lot of "rookies" out there that want live in la la land, in that if you visualize only beauty that is what you get! fine, but apparently you did not listen to david that well, he said that their are also faults going into 4-d positive, because if you are not aware of eventual control by other beings " all so loving and open hearted" that you also potentielly invite contfol' that is why he mentioned the "badges of honor" in 5-d.

you guys are missing the point about fear. it is real, but only if you are to decipher between the 2. fear/love/knowing the difference. then overcoming that initiation. george green is good. when and if you read his book "the new paradigm", you will find little difference between that and tha loo. remenber, that their are many perspectives to the infinite creator. we are all fragments ( or fractals ) of the same component; the one infinite creator. when these fragments break up due to the law of free will some will go inward and others outward (sts/sto) that is ultimatly all that you are seeng occur.
the beautiful side according to ra and even g. green is that this is the moment impregnant with possibilities for exponential growth especially at the end of the grand cycle. remember the opposite polarities must collide. that is why the infinite creator relfected/split himself, to observe himself. it is a dance to create infinitly.

do not get caught up in your fear. the man spoke pure truth. it is your fault that you wanted to hear what you wanted to hear, now acknowledge both opposites. that is indeed your awakening.

if you you did not you would live in la la land like ra and the boys and girls did on venus

all he saying is be aware, that is growth!

nelson - i am that i am

[Kryfamid]

my feelings went nuts when i saw this guy. i don't trust him at all. i'm learning to trust my intuition more and more and it is telling me that something isn't right about him. on the more logical end though, green reveals nothing new as the economic collapse, mass exterminations have been widely revealed. perhaps the human clones is something new but everything else is just repeating what we already know.

[giturbewan]

hi nelson,

i'm not sure what/who you meant by 'rookie' - whether you refer to the newer members of this forum (me being one of them), or those who seem to be, as the phrase goes, 'wearing rose coloured glasses', although in reality are simply beaming with positivity. i don't think it was necessary to divide between and some and others. because...

from what i can tell of the people who use this forum, we are all intelligent enough to understand the basics of what is needed to help co-create a positive existence. i think we all here 'get' what it means to be positive and live positively, radiating love to all others (otherselves), however just because we wish to believe, or state our belief, in one thing being the best outcome, it doesn't mean that we are ignoring all other outcomes, or disregarding all other messengers or messages just because they don't say what we want to hear, or say it in a negative way.

i, personally, don't feel i need to read this or read that, or even watch this or that, because i feel i know right from wrong (as we all do). so, while i may not have read george's books, or the entire loo series, or all of david's work, i do 'get it'. if i ever choose to listen to or debate over the advice of others (how ever strongly they put it across), it's because i want to understand it, or learn from it. not because i fear it, or don't fear it. fear is normal, natural, and something to work with, not work toward.

i don't know where i'm getting with this, really. i guess i just wanted to point out that i think we all are capable of using discernment in our own way. and while the 'rookies' (where ever they may be) might be focusing on the negative (or ignoring the negative) of any situation, they too, will learn to balance or overcome the things they need to, in their own time.

i'm not necessarily arguing with the point you made, or judging you for making it, but i do think you could have said the same thing in a little less of a threatening way.

love to you,

tamarie

[Eagevawax]

so, mozart- where is that 44 min. video to be found, that you originally started this thread about, back in feb? i know it was well before he was interviewed on project camelot, but since then, this thread has turned into a posse, out to hang 'em high, or nail 'em up. i heard george green on coast to coast, and george noory kept refering to him as a prophet- and the audience response was very supportive, also.

hey posse, just what is it about his truth that is so hard to swallow? does it not fit your paradigm, or what? thats just fine, because he's got a book called handbook for the new paradigm, that is like an instruction manual, for us to actually create a new paradigm- and he's giving it out for free-even paying the postage- how many are doing that out there?

maybe it is too late- considering the odds, our chances are probably very slim- but killing a messenger is not the way to go. and if this "ship" really goes down, i prefer to go down with a bucket in my hand, not a noose.

we really are spiritual beings having a physical experience, but those are just words. you need to know that, with every fiber of your being, deep in your heart, and start living like the infinitely powerful entities that we all are.

the possibilities boggle the mind...

bob

[GinaIsWild]

i'm about half way into reading his first book and it does resonate in some degree with the loo, i was a bit surprised, his book does seem different than the interview in a way.................sylvain...................

[curcercanty]

ummmmmmmm, what's wrong with lala land? i have lived there 80% of the time i've been here, and "lala" is even my knickname in real life....

why does "lala land" strike suck a passionate chord???? what is it about lala land that provoked anger? as anger, is a stem from fear......lala land allways works for me, if you keep your eyes on the yellow brick road, you will find the emerald palace, you will discover the wizard is a fake, and you will eventually get back home!

[SnareeWer]

i listened to part of the video and it just didn't resonate with me so i stopped, that's it that's all period. i'm not crucifying the fellow he is as is everyone else entitled to their opinion.

as well if i do listen to something and it makes me fearful, then i don't think there is any good reason to listen to it unless i feel like being scared, which i don't. i have read and listened to sooooooooo much stuff that made me feel just that and it just doesn't interest me anymore so i stay away. it bores me. i don't think i am buying into fear just because i choose not to read or listen to something that makes me afraid.

i only have so much free time so i generally choose to watch/read more lala land inspired stuff. it makes me feel good and smile and i feel that while i am reading it i am sending good vibes out to the world and there's nothing wrong with that.

just my own personal choice.



megan

[attanilifardy]

yes, yes, yes to what everybody said, except nelson, sorry mate, rookies are a bit sensitive and who are the rookies anyway? to this forum? well, then i qualify. i sensed some anger there, which is fine and understandable. i personally see nothing wrong with la la land, it's our choice , too bad i can't live there more often.

as usual, i liked bob's take on the discussion, it does seem a bit of a lynch mob towards poor old george who is only doing his best after all. can any of us really judge? and thanks for the link to project camelot, that was really helpful, and very intriguing about hillary, what was that secret positive characteristic she has?

what if, just what if, everybody's wrong about her and she is pretending to go along with the elite so she can get into power, then when she has it, she will turn the tables? you never know, a smart person would do that, wouldn't they? after all, thatcher was removed by the elite when she started to rebel against them. you just never know......

and anyway, what difference does it make? it's understood the candidates are chosen and it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. and also, i never did understand people sitting around discussing politics because it doesn't change anything, it's just a bunch of hot air going nowhere.

of course, here i am doing just that. oh well. also, i keep reminding myself that whatever anyone says about someone is a reflection of what they themselves are, you only talk about what's inside of you, the other person is just a means of projection.

i suppose i could go on, but that's enough. much love to all (for now) larissa

[curcercanty]

and thanks for the link to project camelot, that was really helpful, and very intriguing about hillary, what was that secret positive characteristic she has?

what if, just what if, everybody's wrong about her and she is pretending to go along with the elite so she can get into power, then when she has it, she will turn the tables? you never know, a smart person would do that, wouldn't they? after all, thatcher was removed by the elite when she started to rebel against them. you just never know......

this is a very good point...(especially after all the public humiliation and crap she went through).....in fact, i think no matter who it is, we are at the table turning time, the last election before 2012, so no matter who gets elected, no matter what the illusion is on the outside, we are still going to chose our polarities, stand our ground, and arrive at our destinies.....everything will work out just as it should, so no need for dissapointments or debates really in my head.

everyone should feel completley free to express their personal opinions...

if something dosen't resonate, it dosen't resonate....if something else inspires, it inspires....it is all just a personal experience.

all anyone can really do in the long run is let your light shine, love yourself, and for those who want to, love others as well.....

even without the "2012" date we are all hoping for, there is much change going on for what i percieve is the better....even if the opposites had to co-exsist for another 10 000 000 years, the game is changing, opportunity is now here for every individual to follow the path of their choice instead of being forced against their will to follow the "invisible rules" of a hidden minority who are out for themselves.

people in every walk of life are waking up and tired of the fight....growing up....no longer being the 4 year olds in grown up clothes coveting a toy they had no interest in until another child picked it up...people are realizing they can go get their own exact toy instead of fighting with the other 4 year old....

people are finally ready to create their own realities, instead of trying to take over someone elses...how boring is that anyways?

i would rather paint my own picture, than try to take credit for a painting done by another artist, wouldn't you?

[SnareeWer]

sometimes melisamouse you have such a wonderful way of hitting the nail on the head!

everyone should feel completley free to express their personal opinions...

if something dosen't resonate, it dosen't resonate....if something else inspires, it inspires....it is all just a personal experience.

all anyone can really do in the long run is let your light shine, love yourself, and for those who want to, love others as well..... you make me smile, thanks:d

megan

[freddystone]

so, mozart- where is that 44 min. video to be found, that you originally started this thread about, back in feb?

i think this is the one mozart was referring to. it was posted nov 5, 2007, and it's 44 minutes long.

hey posse, just what is it about his truth that is so hard to swallow? does it not fit your paradigm, or what? thats just fine, because he's got a book called handbook for the new paradigm, that is like an instruction manual, for us to actually create a new paradigm- and he's giving it out for free-even paying the postage- how many are doing that out there?
bob

i have nothing against the man, personally, i imagine he's doing the best that he can, given his situation. perhaps he's just alerting us to a probability, so that we can choose to avoid it, kind of like the old saying that a prophet whose dire predictions don't come true, will know that he has accomplished his mission. all i said about it was that i was choosing a different, more peaceful timeline where we don't all get nuked, and i encouraged others to do the same.
btw, i do like his books!

[Tinasblue]

hey transcript team,

here's an excellent (so i'm told) video by george green, an economist who apparently has had some prescient comments made about the state of the us economy, to wit:


[as this is off-topic, please pm seth if you want to transcribe the url for him]


you can find the url for george green in this from project camelot: http://www.projectcamelot.org/2008.html


i'd love to have a transcript of this. if any of you do a transcript of it, please send it to me and i'll be glad to edit it, then post it in this forum for the benefit of all. it's a 44-minute video.


~mozart