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Old 10-04-2009, 03:34 PM   #21
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the guy crying at the end was faking it, and they became less serious at the end, but the homeless man is a genious.

even though well all have that knowledge.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:22 PM   #22
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yes, i thought so! and as happens more often. the homeless guy as the initiator is not completely aware of what is happening. he's not in control of the process. but his actions did help the other to get sparked.

this is considered slightly messy i believe. i believe etiquette is to initiate only on request. and with some preparations.. certainly not by accident... then again these are the best experiences... sometimes a student is so ready that he just self initiates in the presence of a master. the energy releases in the few cases that i have seen are usually brutal!

one of my sufi friends explained how people getting close together is like putting burnable materials close to each other. when a spark hits one of them, it's likely more of them will catch fire. just by being in the presence of a master you become more of a master yourself. even if that master is a half grown master. this is a function of energy. and requires no training or preparation. just proximity and some empathy.

and if even the camera was affected by this release of energy.. then i can certainly understand that the blonde kid got a little emotional. matter is atomic energy man! look at me this is important!
i completely agree. i've had this happen to me on more than one occasion, it's as if we ignite each other and, it almost feels like we're in a weightless wind tunnel. sometimes just reading material back and forth can do this.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:01 AM   #23
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wow, homeless guy is very deep, respect. makes me think about all the people i see as subordinate. vivek needs his own website, book and forum.
however, the guys filming him are very rude and not fully in tune with what he's saying; but they know not what they do. the guy at the end is obviously faking it, geez, they made this video with the intention of it being comical (he says that on youtube).
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:32 PM   #24
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wow, homeless guy is very deep, respect. makes me think about all the people i see as subordinate. vivek needs his own website, book and forum.
however, the guys filming him are very rude and not fully in tune with what he's saying; but they know not what they do. the guy at the end is obviously faking it, geez, they made this video with the intention of it being comical (he says that on youtube).
regardless their intent, the message will get across to those who listen - because they will find themselves resonating with vivek and not the 'children'.
i do agree they were disrespectful, i do not like or condone rudeness, its not treating others as equals. do unto others...
however... i do realize that as this video was meant to be seen on the internet and thus spread... perhaps their very antics were fated to happen because it will make those who normally wouldnt pay attention to what vivek is saying... start listening out of annoyance of the two guys.
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:14 PM   #25
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the real value of his message is that he was not purposely aiming it at anyone in particular. that is when you get the full effects of truth. at least this is what i've noticed. the message seems to flow with power when it's for the good of all and there is no purposeful intent of negativity towards anyone. that always seems to palpably taint a message.


and he didn't want to appear grandious and wise in front of everyone, he kept stating he was a "beginner"..i found that refreshing.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:16 PM   #26
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regardless their intent, the message will get across to those who listen - because they will find themselves resonating with vivek and not the 'children'.
i do agree they were disrespectful, i do not like or condone rudeness, its not treating others as equals. do unto others...
however... i do realize that as this video was meant to be seen on the internet and thus spread... perhaps their very antics were fated to happen because it will make those who normally wouldnt pay attention to what vivek is saying... start listening out of annoyance of the two guys.
very true this is, and we also need to remember that love is more visible when standing next to guys like these. i was very impressed with vivek when the one lady came and said something ignorant about him, and he just said "that's ok, she doesn't exist in my reality anyway".

if we could all ignore the disrespectful, they may just give up and stop bugging us. at least the guys that made the film still state that they do respect vivek, and as they said in their video, they would make sure lots of people saw it. no matter the intentions, all our higher selves are working to get this information out there however we can.

thanks to vivek for being strong with his beliefs even with ridiculed out in the open :d
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:41 PM   #27
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perhaps their very antics were fated to happen because it will make those who normally wouldnt pay attention to what vivek is saying... start listening out of annoyance of the two guys.
yea i know what you mean, it's funny how things work out like that, i love it!
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:08 PM   #28
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very true this is, and we also need to remember that love is more visible when standing next to guys like these. i was very impressed with vivek when the one lady came and said something ignorant about him, and he just said "that's ok, she doesn't exist in my reality anyway".

if we could all ignore the disrespectful, they may just give up and stop bugging us. at least the guys that made the film still state that they do respect vivek, and as they said in their video, they would make sure lots of people saw it. no matter the intentions, all our higher selves are working to get this information out there however we can.

thanks to vivek for being strong with his beliefs even with ridiculed out in the open :d
oh yes, i was impressed with his response to that lady as well. granted i do think if it were me i wouldnt have said she doesnt exist, i would have rather said that is okay i respect her opinion, and i send her light and love.
but still the way he did respond was very good because he didnt allow it to invoke fear in him.

i do wish we could find vivek and tell him hey, your message is out there and you are spreading the light, and you did do a good service. and then id buy him lunch.
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