[rouletteroulette]

folks,


firstly, dw's and my comments on this thread are within the "{...}"--in order to avoid confusion with the original quoted material that use a lot of square brackets "[...]"; and our comments are double-spaced apart from other material, but comments that don't have any other comments within them are left only with a single-space between paragraphs. comments that are within comments are continued with the three periods ("..."). i hope that this material is readable for most.


i've had a lot of fun reading up on the dan burisch stuff. it's the best "insider" stuff that's available on the public internet, as far as i've seen. dan burisch very bravely exposed this information over a short period of time, after which he was killed for his efforts to expose important information...


{dw: dan is very much alive. this was a false alarm.}


...i really appreciate dan's efforts to help us humans out. hundreds of thousands of people have read this material, but few of them have the rare opps to comare the burisch material to the material in the divine cosmos site, which has the least-distorted spiritual/scientific material of anywhere on the planet. the value of the burisch material is to indicate what the insiders in the mltry complex are thinking, compared to our thinking within the divine cosmos thought-form thinking...


{dw: it is one perspective on what they are thinking, and has useful information in it.}


...there are a lot of distortions/mis-perceptions within the burisch material, but, thanks to the information on the divine cosmos site, i've been able to wade through the distortions and pick out some gems of information, some of which i share with you in the pasted quotes interspersed below that are along with my own commentaries woven in. it's facinating material...


{dw: i have done the same... and much more. it's a complex subject and i'll be releasing my conclusions all at one time.}


...there are little bits and pieces of information in the burisch material that dovetails with the divine comos stuff, but a lot of the burisch material is quite distorted (even the pasted material), compared to the divine cosmos stuff, so, folks, just be aware of how fortunate we are to have the highly-accurate information in the divine cosmos site; what a gem of a gift it is. to all who have contributed to that site, dw and all, i thank you all from the bottom of my bottomless heart.


now on to the burisch material, along with my comments ("db" is dan burisch; "dh" is dan hamilton, the interviewer). the information gets better and better as this post goes along.


{dw: this first excerpt about 'hodge-podges' is so deplorably difficult to understand that i wouldn't have arranged the data this way... but it is one of the oldest swatches of 2012 testimony that he gave. much better to watch his recent videos on the project camelot website. i cleaned it up a bit so you have a fighting chance to make sense out of it.}


http://www.stealthskater.com/documents/burisch_10.doc


[quote]
dh: you're talking about the doctrine of convergent timeline paradox?

db: ... but from what i understand, from what i've read, and from the conversations to which i've been privy, we are in fact living in a chimera reality -- which hodge-podges together the reality time-line that we would normally associate with moving from 'a' to 'b', cause to effect. the nexus [of these influences is] the passage of clock-time [as we know it.]

there is a hodge-podging together, superimposed onto [the passage of clock time] in our reality, of errors that we made in our future. [what i have been told is that we are] attempt[ing] to go back into our past to correct the problems of our future.

those results have [caused a blending together] rather than [the] splitting [of] time-stream[s] as maybe such people as michio kaku would posit.

now i'm no theoretical physicist. i'm just a lowly biologist that looks at patterns. but it hodge-podges together -- in a real sense to us -- those things which happened, and are to happen, in the future with our present timeline -- due to an interruption of the time-stream.

instead of splitting into two time-streams, what happened is as soon as we mucked around with something, we overlaid a second time-stream into the present reality.

and the problem with that is -- as i understand -- we did it more than once, so what we have is a snowball effect. a time-stream upon time-stream upon time-stream [loops his hand continuously in the air].

bh: and the critical period of time is coming up within about ten years?

db: ... but yeah, around 2012. we're talking about the famous dec 21, 2012, the mayan issues. the catastrophe is alleged to have and to occur around … yeah, that date ...
[unquote]


{dw: based on law of one discussions about a 'three-way split' and many other components, it becomes clear that what we are seeing here is a reality created by those who went through 2012 and graduated negatively.

from their perspective they saw a cataclysm. they experience dna degeneration, in keeping with the law of one statements about how your soul starts dissolving if you stay on the negative path for too long.

they have misunderstood the cause of this degradation as being their low population numbers after the alleged cataclysm -- which was really a thought-form created by their beliefs of what would happen, and not consistent with what others -- such as 4d positive graduates -- will experience.}


[quote]
bh: but we have a split, so to speak, in the human …??

db: [nodding] following the catastrophe, there is a split between those individuals that take a more spiritual path and will move forward to places such as the moon and mars and then onward from there to orion,...


{dw: those on the negative path believe it to be a 'more spiritual path'...}


...and those folks who take a more rudimentary path because it's the alleged 'spiritual' nature of humankind -- from their philosophy at that time -- which led us to not deal with the pressing problems of the day because we were too busy fighting our petty religious battles.

[they] then go off into a more 'logical', 'mathematical', 'numerological' philosophy...


{dw: notice how derogatory the 'insider' opinion (not necessarily dan's personal opinion) is about the positive path.}


...those folks who then progress slower because of the lack of ambition -- spiritual ambition -- then gradually move off to the reticulum area [and] then become the j-rods.
[unquote]


{dw: this is clearly distorted, since it is being seen from the negative side of things.}


{mozart: it seems that this dctp (doctrine of convergent timeline paradox) stuff is sort of like the bifurcation points that smelyakov talked about...


{dw: true... somewhat.}


...it is clear to me that the insiders in the nasa/mltry complexes are really aware of the coming 2012 event (as dw and others have pointed out), but, from their point of view, it's a "catastrophe".


{dw: this is correct.}


...it might as well be for them (the elites), since it destroys their toys and levels out the 3-d time/space playing field that the majority of the shifted 3-d humans (going from 3-d space/time to 3-d time/space) in such a way that anyone within the re-formed matrix field of the 3-d time/space reality can conjure up anything one may wish, if one were to be aware of such abilities...


{dw: they don't even think that far. just a massive population reduction, which they've concluded will be beneficial.}


...clearly the mltry/insiders have perceptual errors of the 2012 event, but it is interesting to me that they are aware of: (a) the 2012 event itself and (b) the splitting of worlds after the event.}


{dw: good point.}


[quote]
...so i wasn't particularly interested … and in fact before i experienced the 'gentleman' in the clean sphere, i frankly thought, honestly thought, that people who believed in aliens were tin-foil heads. [here dan shrugs his shoulders and shakes his head, then chuckles wryly saying “egg on my face!”] ...

d. burisch: i've come to know a group … i shouldn't say i've come to know the group. i've come to know of the group called the committee of the majority. this committee is built of thirty-three men. they are masonic-based and they are people who set in the highest positions of privilege and power within the u. s. government and other governments.

bh: how does this group, majestic 12, fit into that?

d. burisch: majestic 12 is a group of scientists and scientific advisors who work for the committee of the majority.
[unquote]


{mozart: in other interviews, burisch makes it clear that the committe of the majority (cotm) has broken up into at least two factions, one rogue one that is the dark, nasty part of the illoonynaughties and the other one that wants more peaceful outcomes...


{dw: this is correct.}


...this supports a number of sources that have indicated that the highest levels of the illoonynaughties have broken up into two competing factions. i find it interesting that their favorite tactic that they use against the people of the world--the tactic of "divide and conquer"--has been used against them in a karmic way. yea!

so, apparently, the rogue ones are trying their best to foment wars in the worst way (i.e. in iraq and the attempting to start a war with iran, etc), while the more peaceful part of the cotm are working to keep the world from exploding into a major wwiii conflagration, amongst other things that they are apparently doing, like keeping the internet going and the world economies functioning without outright collapse in their efforts to counterbalance the efforts of the rogue splinter cotm group. good 'ol karma helping us people out there.}


{dw: i wouldn't be too quick to rush in and shower the opposing side with good tidings. suffice it to say that we have two groups, each with negative elements in their own ways, that will cancel each other out. people within these groups are not necessarily up to no good -- in many cases they are good people who got stuck in a bad situation.}


[quote]
bh: is there any particular significance … you were mentioning a cycle of 9 -- yours that these aliens seem to be adhering to -- and the next period coming up would be of 2003?

db: the only thing i know for sure is that their relationship with us is treaty-based.

bh: you mean 'as'?

db: … as in the alleged orion visitors and confirmed reticulan visitors. it's a treaty-based relationship. that treaty and negotiations for further cooperative work is due for re-upping; and that re-upping is due in 2003.

now, i've been kind of hurried-up in the project in which i am currently assigned. i've been told to have a working model of this theory presentable by march 15 next year (2003).

why are they letting this happen? i don't know. i have not been able to move right-or-left without getting watched, that i know.
[unquote]


{mozart: this is an interesting bit of information that dovetails with smelyakov's bifurcation points, one of which was 2003. and this "cycle of 9" is an apparent series of treaties between human govt's and ets.

i back-dated the cycles and it apparently started in 1949, two years after the famous roswell event, which really did happen and which was confirmed by many sources, including the ra material. there's been six "cycle of 9" treaties with an apparent 7th one that may be in effect now.}


{dw: i can check and see if you are correct on this point.}


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{mozart: on to the next link}


http://www.stealthskater.com/documents/burisch_11.doc


[quote]
dan burisch: they have been planting the seeds of discontent with their places in the world in order to obtain their assistance with present time research into the neurological deficit. that is how they do the communications. the mibs are aliens. well, ets, not really aliens.

in return, the governments have been obtaining technology from them. stargate technology. stargate technology to move across the universe or access other dimensions? we -- meaning the u.s. -- must root out and find the stargates that are man-made. yes, to access vast distances. and with that technology goes time access as well.

in 2012, the sun will shower the earth with waves of energy, bound to the einstein-rosen bridges that are clumped together at the galactic equator.

dondep: is one of the stargates in iraq?

dan burisch: two. we have one of them. all of the natural stargates will turn 'on'...and as they say in hollywood, "something wonderful will happen". what that means, i don't really know. but, if we do not capture and disable the man-made ones, the record books read that we will undergo a tragedy -- 4 billion at minimum dead.
[unquote]


{mozart: there's several interesting things here. the mibs are apparently aliens, not humans; there's a lot of detailed observations in the interviews that i have not pasted here...


{dw: some of his mib stories are extremely bizarre.}


...the stargate stuff is facinating. no wonder we have the movie "stargate", as well as the tv series "stargate sg-1" going on with the subtle hints of truth bleeding through, within a lot of distortions, though...


{dw: there are distortions. only biological material goes through. also there appears to be different types of stargates. there is one per planet put down by the "ancients," which gates world to world, and only sends through biological material. anything else doesn't make it.

then there are other 'manmade' gates that may be able to ship biological material as well as physical matter. i'm not sure and need to clarify this.}


...the reference to stargates being in iraq is facinating; maybe that's the key reason why this stupid war is happening over there, on top of a number of other reasons (e.g. geostrategic imperatives, maintenance of dollar/oil supremacy and the oil)?...


{dw: so i've heard. you can hear more about this in the burisch video at project camelot.}


...apparently burisch has been worried that the human-made stargates could mess up the natural stargates that are supposed to turn on in the 2012 event, but i am presuming that our benevolent guardians (the confederation, et. al.) would be able to use their superior et tech to disable any man-made ones that may have the ability to disrupt the natural ones, right?...


{dw: the whole story, in my opinion, is a result of the confusion of those who graduated 4d negative. they believe themselves to be the proper descendants of humanity, the "more spiritual" portion. they believe that their dna is degrading not because they are on the negative path, but because of the small number of initial survivors.

they furthermore believe that if they can come back, get dna, renew their genome with it and try to stop what they believe is a pole shift, then they can stop their genetic problems. a variety of films have this sub-plot in it, most recently "the last mimzy".

by the way, all the manmade stargates have been deactivated since last year, and the last glance towards the future that was taken before they were all brought offline suggested that, in their timeline, the vast likelihood is now that there was not a catastrophe.}


...i wonder if the natural ones are aligned with the becker-hagens planetary grid? it has to be, as stargates would be presumably located at key energenic/geometric convergence points...


{dw: you are correct, sir.}


...and the einstein-rosen bridges seem to be the inner part of the spherical torus of the torsion fields that are so well-explained in the divine cosmos site, yes?...


{dw: correct again.}


{dw: as for the next quote you have to keep in mind that burisch's primary function within the maji group was to try to re-create the original seed of all life on earth, which was code-named the lotus.

this was done through taking a certain primordial rock outcropping, the vishnu schist, and bathing it in a solution with basic amino acids and a bit of electrical current. in this way, the natural aetheric fields are stimulated to create life. this is a more correct view of how life is actually formed -- not through random darwinian mutation.

the ganesh particles seem to be direct precipitations from the 'aether' that provide a supportive and healing effect on other cells.}


[quote]
dan burisch: so the dctp says. that is why i am fighting so hard. but there exists people that would try to turn this into a technology that would be akin to grabbing the fruit of the tree of life. i can't help them, whatsoever.

the lotus is a natural thing. it isn't something that some frankenstein's laboratory cooked up. it exists all around us. we are part of it, and it, us. every mote of dust emits the particles, naturally. it is the driving force, through the creator (blessed be he) that moves life on earth forward to his will.

the ganesh particles are those modes of transportation whereby the actions of the divine one hands through and over the daat, a piece of the supernal. as we are god, he is us. the tree of life is what we are. not just humans, but the entire experience of life.

the ganesh particles have been there all along. they hide themselves under bent waves of electromagnetism, and flicker out of existence, back across the daat with little effort.

the crude laboratory protocols of today limit -- by their very nature -- the ability to find them. the sifting, sorting, etc. i found them by a process of elimination. i mean, i was kind of told they were there ...

it bridges the gap between the material and the spiritual, if you will.
[quote]


{mozart: the comments on the lotus and the ganesh particles are very fascinating. there's a lot more descriptions of these two things in burisch's commentaries. and the "grabbing the fruit of the tree of life" is another key commentary that has a great deal of what is going on in today's technologies, as well as the atlantean technologies with their own attempts to grab this fruit with the disastrous consequences that are now history.}


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http://www.stealthskater.com/documents/burisch_15.doc


{mozart: "j" is burisch. he makes some facinating comments in the below-pasted quote. more comments later.}


[quote]
"j": as i have told the others (marc and don), i have only asked with this research to peer over the east gate of eden, to see the tree. i vigorously fight against any attempts to touch her fruit.

the lotus is not something that can be sold as a technology or -- if possible -- shouldn't be. it has a life of its own, sprung from the eternal. for many years i begged -- as i think many biologists do -- to have the "holy grail of biology" - to see the origin of life.

now i am realizing that i may have entered upon her territory and must proceed very carefully and with the utmost respect. such respect is lacking in the greater part of the scientific community as much of that community has lost her way from the path of god.

i too, stood as an arrogant biologist thinking that i could grasp what i will and do with it as i pleased. then, i met the person from far away (in distance as time).

when i first met him, i could look down at my hands and at my face and see youth. now, i see time. just like the time he crossed to come here, and allow himself to be experimented upon by the arrogant ones (myself included at that time). i understand.

my god! in our own arrogance, we have constructed portals we staunchly call stargates as if we can control the nature of time itself. they must all be destroyed or we shall undo ourselves and become what i have seen. this is something that profoundly changes a person, to know the error, before it is made, and to have it out of grasp. all i can do is hand this to god and pray for our survival...


{dw: the manmade portals have all been shut down.}


...i was asked by "dondep" if i had seen a hologram of the future. i answered that i had. but that is only a possible scenario. we must return to the worship of the creator, and an appreciation of the things he has given (including the natural stargates) or we are dooming ourselves.

right now, under the facade of the "war on terror", thousands are risking their lives. and they know not why. is there wmd in various countries? yes. "are" there, i should have said.

but the big push was precipitated by a threat that followed the attack on my country. that is why we went after iraq. plus the oil, i am sure didn't look too bad given our economy.

we were -- and are looking for -- one kind of wmd: the stargates. why did the sumerian cylinder seals disappear from the museums? they tell of a technology (see william henry's work) that will eventually destroy us by our own arrogance.

so, we find ourselves in the greatest catch-22 between the literal devil and the figurative deep blue sea.
[unquote]


{mozart: i will post more commentaries that have even more facinating stuff about greater explanations of the lotus and the ganesh particles, which appear to me to be sacred geometric-based energy structures that are explained differently and in greater/better detail in the divine cosmos site.}


{dw: true. and my writings helped the lotus protocols evolve, i now know.}


signing off for now,


~mozart

[UBJ3kvP1]

i cannot go into any further detail about burisch at this point, because i want to wait until the testimony is all put together. there have been some strong attempts to 'debunk' his material but i have surveyed the case ever since it first emerged, and now have unique insights into the story you'll never see anywhere else.

it is utterly fascinating how much crossover there is between burisch's testimony and the law of one. one compelling explanation is that both sources are true as they see it. i know for a fact that burisch was totally unaware of the law of one material until very recently. and 11:11 on that!

- david

[QqJamxqP]

dear friends,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=dan+burisch

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=dan+burisch


be well, be love.

david

[QqJamxqP]

dear friends,

for those of you that are new here's when the solstice is happening on 21.12.2012.

re-member this...

there are no coicnidences, no accidents.

everything happens just as it should...

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/earthseasons.html

be welll, be love.

david

2012 2012
perihelion jan 5 00 equinoxes mar 20 05 14 sept 22 14 49
aphelion july 5 03 solstices june 20 23 09 dec 21 11 11

[Longwow]

thanks. i appreciate the insights on the burisch material. i had been wondering about it for some time. there is much fascinating stuff found on the project camelot site, others interviewed backing up the burisch "confessions."

interesting comment on the negative 4ths in not realizing their true state of affairs. this is something i suspected might have been the case with the authors of the voluminous phoenix journals -- transmissions which play such a large roll with patrick bellringer and his nesara money monkey business....much sounds good -- then comes a sour note here and there making one suspicious. compared to the ra their operating definition of "free will" is absolutely loosey-goosey.

love, billybrainscrambled ...getting smarter and smarter! (:>)) but forgetting more and more #$*@#! (:>(

[molaunterbizone]

interesting threat. i learned about dan burish a long time ago because dondep was linking to my website. they found material related to dan winter and were discussing chapter 6 of my book with respect to the ganesh particle. the website is no longer on-line.

you mentioned william henry’s article on saddam hoessein’s quest for the stargates in iraq. henry has suggested that saddam was trying to find ancient stargate technology, he believed that his technology could be used as a wmd. he also believed to be the reincarnation of nebuchadnezar and was restoring ancient babylon. it’s no-coincidence that the war on terror that is going on in iraq which is the cradle of civilization and the land of the annunaki. if the illuminati are descendents of the annunaki bloodline (david icke, michael tsarion), a secret well preserved in the secret societies, then the end-game being played out in iraq makes all the more sense. as william henry suggests and the same suggestion has also been made by michael tsarion, the descendents of the annunaki bloodline are seeking a way out of this place before 2012 and that’s why they need this stargate technology.
http://williamhenry.net/documents/saddam.pdf

with respect to smelyakov’s ats theory, smelyakov never mentioned parallel timelines in his theory. his bifurcation points describe moments in time in which human evolution can branch off into new directions but he never mentioned them as parallel timelines. but for lack of a better term we could think of them as a quantum state with a high probability of collapsing into an event that will change evolution into a new direction.

bifurcation point 13 coincided with the start of the war on iraq.
http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/ats.html

regards

[paratayoma]

what i find most interesting about this interviews is the notion that the negative et types that are interfering here on earth are actually mostly not et at all. they are "us" or rather the negative portion of humanity from a future timeline. that would explain i think why they would even be allowed to interfere here to the extent they have. they are not complete outsiders.

fascinating...

javier

[Glamyclitlemi]

i'm not so sure that the jrods are 4d negative. there seems to be a good possibility that they are 3d with a negative bent. according to the burisch material there are 3 jrod types visiting: the 24's, 45's, and 52's (iirc). these are designations in thousands of years in the future so the 24's are, for example, from 24,000 years from now, etc.

dan says the 24's (from the roswell crash) are biologically more human-like (though diminutive) than the others who more like greys. this suggests that there is a physical evolutionary model at work here which suggests to me that they are 3d. the 45's are comprised of rogues (negatives) and non-rogues (more positive). the 52's have no rogues and are aware of the effects of karma and make a conscious effort to respect human free will. the 52's also have the neuropathy disorder and may associate this condition with negative karma they have generated from their actions in the distant past (my interpretation).

the fact that they are making a concerted effort toward the positive and respect free will suggests that they are not 4d negative. it seems to me that they are the 3d survivors of the negative elite for the most part with possibly some other insider survivors thrown in as well. also, the tests done on the jrods indicate that they are biological entities.

remember, these jrods are from timeline 2. t2 is the unlikely scenario where a catastrophe occurs due to some degree because man-made stargates interfere with the natural ones that we pass through around the 2012 period. this seems to somehow prevent the natural ascension of the planet and its' inhabitants and artificially force it to remain 3d. the survivors being the negative elite (and support staff?) who live in the underground facilities that they have built.

what gets lost in the t2 scenario is that there had to have been enough of a consensus in that alternate reality to allow the negative elite to create it. that does not seem to be the case this time around.

[wCYvMKAc]

here's an interesting re from dan that i found at
http://www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/l...13burisch.html
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posted: mon may 15, 2006 9:47 pm

~f~i~t~a~ wrote: hi dr burisch,
does the low probability of the catastrophy you have spoken of, have anything to do with the choices we as individuals make now?
what i mean is, obviously the choices we make now help determine what our future will be, but without giving too much away, has the change to the catasrophy being a high to a low probability, more to do with us as individuals and our choices, or has some actual measure been put in place to avoid it?
hi, fita!
there is a dual thing to this- the trigger for the catastrophe is being handled. that trigger is a variety of technology which would perturb the earth as we experience higher energies from the cosmos and our sun. those items are being handled, around the globe, by force of arms.
know this- we are presently in the position from whence the catastrophe came for the j-rods and orions. it's here...it's now...and we are handling it. the threat will remain in our presence for a few years to come.
the real upside to this is where your question comes in! the natural energies in this section of the galaxy are very conducive (if what i have been told is thoroughly accurate) to positive enhancements to our gene pool. as previously stated to john...the appearance of a higher than normal incidence of special children (so called indigo children) acts, in some ways, as testimony to that as fact. there is a long history of wisdom supporting the position that when one orients oneself to the positive...their energies...and i think positive energies drawn from the cosmos (god if you will) increase! the orders under which i am bound...and they are good orders...say exactly the following:
"to: the most honorable dr. danny b catselas burisch, majestic id# h-6196-e
from: the most honorable mj#1, for the consistory of the majestic 12, washington, d.c.
within and for the consistory of this majority assembled; by order of the majestic 12, in formal high session, thursday, october 12, 2005 a.d., you are hereby instructed, ordered, and enjoined to the best of your abilities and talents to present the truth of the extraterrestrial reality, as you have personally known it, on dates yet to be established, to the population of the world. you will conduct this disclosure with the application of your sacred honor, without regard for personal security, and in an unwavering manner rely upon the truth and the countenance of almighty god as your personal defense. know now that you have the personal assurance of the majestic 12 that none shall prevail against you, that your message shall be for the unity of humanity during the time of the cycle's cross. such supremacy of word, but subordinate to god, is established by treaty with the future extraterrestrial intelligences. you are hereby held to all ethical and moral boundaries, as in keeping with the standards set forth for senior agents of the majestic 12. may god be with you, o' son of the majestic! we will stand, unanimous and adjourned to your purpose.
your acceptance of this order is hereby requested forthwith."

the above words were read to me on october 12, 2005, they are to what i am bound, and they are the words as part of a much longer speech read to my team on sunday, may 14, 2006. they say something very important, and something that the naysayers, prophets of doom (whomever they may be), and the opponents who would wish us all ill, should well read-
"...that your message shall be for the unity of humanity during the time of the cycle's cross."
the wisdom of the ancients, in support of orienting ourselves to the positive, are clearly heard in that statement, aren't they?
on the last day before the lookingglass at s4 and tw-nts were dismantled, and the same day they were also dismantled in india, many of the j#'s and senior line agents (of which marcia and i are two) gathered at a special session, at s4, with the senior operators of project lookingglass.
what we first saw were two visions, projected from recorded film, of the future which began oscillating back and forth, from one set of scenes to another...from catastrophe to surival, back to catastrophe, and back to survival. as the last couple of years have passed (as evidenced by time/date stamps on the film), the pace of the oscillation so increased, that by the time we were watching it live that day, after watching the films, the pace oscillated back and forth so fast we could no longer determine a coherent scene.

we then viewed the confidence data, suggesting that the amount of time spent in one scene, versus the amount of time spent in another scene, indicated mathematically that there remains a low likelihood of catastrophe.(the predominance of one and the minor in the other were obscured by the very pace of the oscillation...only able to be discerned by computer.) the statistically computed time-lengths are apparently how they determine such matters, and have been (as i understand it) proven through prior controlled tests. the project managers then moved the equipment and changed the settings to a time past the very rapid oscillation, to a time just beyond the point of the "fork in our collective road"...which also oscillated back and forth...catastrophe to survival, back to catastrophe, and back to survival...but as those events were farther off...the oscillation was slower and we could watch the individual scenes.
we watched the devastation events (t2), and earth changes accompanying a time of survival (t1)...a time we are in now. what stuck out in the t2 scenario, was what we heard of other people (scientists) in another facility, underground, saying, "they had it in their hands and they let it go!" another yelled, "we could have had unity, but they swayed, and now we're all dead!"
following that visit to s4, on october 12, 2005, i was provided the orders above. so, after experiencing that...and actually watching j#'s weeping in the same room... ...well...you can see the critical necessity for me to stay to my orders, and if for nothing else, that i will be able to say i did everything i could...for the unity of humanity during the time of the cycle's cross. to answer your question then...yes! stay positive, accept the positive energies that this beautiful portion of the cosmos has to offer us...and we shall move forward...in unity...to the future intended the children of god.
love, dan

[werkeeque]

i've been spending some time listening to the project camelot interviews with dan burisch, and i'm a little confused about his description of timelines 1 and 2 and their variants.

as i understand it, the j-rods, both p+45 and p+52, and the nordics, are all human descendants of the aftermath of 2012 in timeline 2. they have a vested interest in trying to make sure that we follow timeline 2 because that will justify their history.

it appears that we are increasingly moving toward timeline 1, and a fairly gentle, relatively un-cataclysmic variant at that, based on the letter dan sent to p.c. in april of this year.

if the cataclysmic events of timeline 2 are averted, it would seem that the very existence of the j-rods and nordics would be called into question. it would seem that their history would simply not exist. this seems to suggest that timeline 2 actually will occur, otherwise, how are they even in the picture to be concerned about validating their history?

or do they exist regardless, based on multiple concurrent timelines in alternate universes? but if that's the case, then their history is validated elsewhere and they shouldn't need to be concerned with our timeline.

my brain sometimes gets tied in knots over all of this "back to the future" stuff.

[Ferrotoral]

i found david wilcock on project camelot and he seems to me to be quite genuine. i disagree with him on some things but that is just the nature of our reality. anyway does anybody know anything about if dan burisch is telling the truth or not. ive been trying to do a little research on mr. burisch and it seems there were contradictions to his story according to investigative reporter [please e-mail for name] i want to give him a chance but it doesnt look good for what ive been learning about him. does anybody have any information about this guy. also project camelot seems sincere about what they are doing and i tend to believe them and there efforts. does anybody know more about them. this is fasicinating stuff i want to believe it all but like everybody i want to know if these people are telling the truth.

[Gypejeva]

i think the most important thing i've learned from david wilcock/ra and many others is that not everything is "true" to everyone at the same time.

what is truth? something you see or hear or read? all those things are only interpretations from your senses determined by your brain.

that mcdonalds smell isn't food, it's a perfume made in a factory, we just think it's a food smell because we assume it must be.

truth reveals itself to you....

[Rategbee]

when you become involved with secret societies you have to be very careful about what you say and how you say it. dan is very calculated in what he says because he knows what will happen if he says too much. rip bill cooper and phil schneider! he is definitely not a name dropper. he seemed very sincere to me when he began talking about some of his subordinates being killed.

[Ferrotoral]

yes i also feel he is telling the truth but at the same time he is not telling all. they may still be using the looking glass but he may be to intimated to say it. i have tried to share this material with peole i work with but their minds are not accpeting this. they say aliens dont exist and the bible is the only truth. i told them i dont follow christian dogma and one them said i was simply going to hell. i laughed him off and at the same time i didnt belittle him about his beliefs. i told them about dan burisch and david wilcock and they said they must be on drugs. its ok though its just like morpheus said in the matrix the mind will reject what it cannot accept no matter how true it is.

[grizolsemn]

http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html

very interesting. bottom line is that we are in new territory.

yippie!

peas,
(:-deeze

[HugoSimon]

according to the physicist quoted in the article "deep solar minimum" posted above by lighteye, (in new sciences/sun category) 2012 and 2013 may be a below average peak in the sunspot cycle. maybe we have averted some major catastrophic event in the near future associated with the galactic plane energetics.

dan burisch seems to believe so, check out his website for details where he references the same article.

http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/

on march 13, 2009, dan found the date of the j-rod’s and orions’ t2 catastrophe event, buried in the words of chi’el’ah (the j-rod he met), and in their "shadow language." a careful study was conducted, and the date was found to be the likely valid date of the t2 event.

[Longwow]

(snip)

maybe we have averted some major catastrophic event in the near future associated with the galactic plane energetics.

dan burisch seems to believe so,


(snip)

http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/

agh really underplays the content contained in this casual reference to
dr. dan burisch...

bbb says:

if you are in the mood for some creepy insider info stuff do check this one out.

burisch declared himself out of circulation for some weeks, but with a promise that he would be back, march 28th 2009, bearing some serious up-dating to be plastered on the eagles disobey site. ? or?

came the 28th i checked and re-checked the site -- but nothing; several days following the "deadline", still nothing.

then came the promised account. like a cream pie right in my face.

ya gotta read it.

someone wondered -- on another thread -- about david's prediction of a coming, meaningful, march bi-furcation, (whatever that is) and did anything of note happen? well, could be. the burisch "incident" might constitute a resounding answer of sorts.

with hair still standing on end my congratulations to all survivors etc., bill g aka bbb

[economex]

dan's research within the lotus project is very interesting, to say the least.

i have been following dan's testimony from the beginning, and was pleasantly surprised that he was invited to caltech to speak about it.
(link attached)

with davids work, and the ra material, i have surmised to myself that dan
seems to know a lot more then he can tell, as he needs to keep his credibility intact with certain groups, so that he can get certain info out, where it is needed the most.

as david w. knows all to well, sometimes when you tell too much, it can be turned against you, by those who cannot see past their own little bubble.

very pleased to see dan's work being discussed here, as i trust much in david's work, and look forward to many discussions.

love & peace


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdcmipeogyg

[Longwow]

hi, debbie

interesting link to dan's presentation...noticed david standing off to the side of the stage. one cannot help but be impressed by dan's ability to switch gears and dive into his sideline microbiology discoveries....such adds to his credibility concerning the even more arcane, ufo, etish portions of his fantastic career.

i do confess i was surprised by the subject matter of your post, since i had wrongly assumed it would relate to the march 28 matter i bought up in my own preceding post.

i have the feeling that you didn't check on it.?

the reason i guess so is that if, say, i posted that, "undercover whistle blower's report that yesterday all 12 atomic bombs impacting targets in iran failed to explode -- washington hawks -- who pushed for the attack --are now retreating in confusion and dismay!"...then a posting response comes back the next day pointing out the fact that "robert oppenheimer was fascinated by hindu scriptures", i would be so much the same scratching my head in confused disarray.

okay. i didn't make it plain enough. to burisch the march 28 date looked like the time of earth calamity...with most of humanity finding themselves pushing up daisies on march 30th (correction: make that, pushing up water lilly's)

dan had called together all surviving elements of majestic12, plus the new power brokers that had taken over. what the group didn't realize was that they had been gathered together in a geographical target zone...if the probability/probable calamity came about they would be among the first ushered out of this dimension... when they found out about how they had been setup many were not happy at all with dan and marcia...one guy felt betrayed, pulled out a gun and waved it around some.

an amusing aspect was that when one of the group asked the time this potential disaster was scheduled to take place, dan replied, "two minutes ago".

i apologize for being so coy about this momentous moment concerning an averted time line disaster.

if you are interested in your close call then please check out the annotated transcription version found on eagles disobey.

wow! close call! hey, i even forgot where i put my rubberized water wings and tube of "jaws" brand shark repellent.:d

the highest and best good for all concerned! billybobbobbingalong

dan's research within the lotus project is very interesting, to say the least.

i have been following dan's testimony from the beginning, and was pleasantly surprised that he was invited to caltech to speak about it.
(link attached)

with davids work, and the ra material, i have surmised to myself that dan
seems to know a lot more then he can tell, as he needs to keep his credibility intact with certain groups, so that he can get certain info out, where it is needed the most.

as david w. knows all to well, sometimes when you tell too much, it can be turned against you, by those who cannot see past their own little bubble.

very pleased to see dan's work being discussed here, as i trust much in david's work, and look forward to many discussions.

love & peace


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdcmipeogyg

[jeockammece]

as david w. knows all to well, sometimes when you tell too much, it can be turned against you, by those who cannot see past their own little bubble. i don't believe it to be intentional its kind of like giving a kid a new toy then telling him not to play with it ... its difficult near on impossible to be honest and keep a secret both at the same time unless you shut down your own heart or possibly limit your communications to one other person, your intent was for good but but the out come was not expected.

there is no evil only outcomes but boy do they sting.