[BDDkDvgZ]

you have to grow towards knowing there is nothing to fear, and demonstrate this knowledge. it should be the basis of your awareness. well said, so many other good quotes in this thread as well. i just wish to add the following:

fear is indeed a natural response to a dangerous situation. nevertheless, it is of the inchoate type of emotions, which can generate much distortion and disharmony. this is why i think those from the negative side use it.

i have dealt with negative entities and psychic attacks off and on since my teenage years, and i can definately say that fear enhances their power over you. i never knew the best way to deal with a situation of psychic attack until i read the ra material which mentioned somewhere how carla, the instrument, had learned that the best way to respond was to send love to the negative entity.

i was once in a dream and a shadow entity held me tightly so that i couldn't wake up. the more awake and conscious i become, the harder it was getting back to my physical body. finally, having recalled that quote from the ra material, i mustered up my will to "alight in unconditional love" and it finally worked. yes, there was help involved. you can read the full story at [with forum rules, we can't release this url, but you can email makram]
in my opinion, anyone who experiences negative psychic attacks on a continuing basis should learn to access at the drop of a hat (or as close to this as possible) the limitless reservoir of unconditional love which any of us can reach through green ray activation.

unconditional love reorders, smooths out distortions, and negative beings are all about disharmony and distortion.

[Immerymopay]

ok, how does one know they are tapping unconditional love in the green venue?

many folks here say this is the way to go. maybe this has a neutralizing effect...

[BDDkDvgZ]

how does one know they are tapping unconditional love in the green venue? i hope i can answer this question accurately and adequately. in any case, i would love to hear other people's take on this.

understanding which energy centers we are tapping into can be a very subtle affair and i am not sure if we as humans in this density have the ability to truly develop clarity on this subject. nevertheless, i believe that awareness of any energy center is best facilitated when it is activated with bright intensity. until then, we really stumble in the dark.

i believe with green ray activation there is the spontaneous reaction of unconditional acceptance, and forgiveness (when applicable) to people in general, to humanity at large, and to the other selves with whom one interacts. this acceptance to easily bloom into universal, unconditional love, at times to an intense degree. natural reactions include the desire to help others, compassionate understanding, a sense of inner harmony, and the simple joy of being. in my opinion, this universal acceptance/love and all embracing reaction also applies to the world, to our lives, to our daily experiences, to our own selves. i see these as different facets of green ray.

also, if i am not mistaken, green ray activation enables one to resonate with the love of the one infinite creator. during rare instances, i witness the world about me coming alive and exuding love to a profound degree. other times i feel as if wrapped up in what i like to call the cosmic embrace. i believe that these are also the results of green ray activation.

what helps me brighten my green ray center is my devotion (and aspiration) to the "white light", to the ethereal, to the creator. when i was grappling with the shadow creature in my dream, the "help" that i received was in the form of a vision of an ethereal image. this worked to transfigure my state of mind instantly to enable me to alight in unconditional love, and to loosen the grasp of the shadow entity.

in my personal experiences, usually green ray activation quickly springboards me into blue ray which makes me feel like i am radiating this love. this radiance i transmute into communication of some form, whether it be writing, music, or whatever else, the process analogous to shining the undifferentiated white light into a prism and working with one of the colors of the refracted light. i believe retaining bright green ray during such periods of productivity sustains or provides foundation to my desire, inspiration, and ability to communicate, gives me the perseverance to work long hours, the desire to be fastidious.

[tsamprasxx]

ha! rabbit totem. i'm part cherokee and shawnee and ive had dreams about a "shadow wolf" since i was a very small boy, and when i go camping or backpacking i always run into them or see them from afar. when upclose they just look at me as if they know me and then go on their way. makes me wonder if i wasnt a wolf as part of my 2nd density experience. maybe you were a rabbit at some point?

i know that anytime i would watch anything scary growing up i would have to cower under the blankets in my bed and/or keep a light on to sooth my mind.

after having read up on some demonology via catholic written articles (not catholic, but hey, they use to exorcise demons so they gotta know something) i kept coming back to one iota of truth in everything. if you let the entity in question have power over you it will. same thing goes with bullies, people at work, ect ect ect. you just have to take the power back.

know you are loved. know that you are protected by your higher self as you would not be subjected to more than you can handle. throw a barrier of light around you, or ask for a hedge of protection (yeah, like im talking about protective shrubbery you dummies, its called a thesaurus, look up the meaning of the word)

i find now that i much prefer to walk around my house at night in the dark as i can actually use more of my senses then i could with the lights on.

of course it helps to live in a house that is "inhabited" by some/several spirits/entities as i am now use to hearing footsteps and doors opening and shutting when im all alone. other family members refuse to believe this even though its happened to them both when alone and when another person/myself is there. (its a new house built on top of where my great grandmother's house was. maybe i should ask outloud next time i hear movement? grand ma? you there? hehe)

[RicyReetred]

dear greywolf, from now on i am sure the house you referred to will be as quiet and peaceful as a church.

[Vokbeelllicky]

my veiw on the subject of demons is not based on the law of one material. i have yet to sit down and study it. what has been shown to me, my intuitive opinion, is that demons do not originate from this universe.

demons should not be confused with negative disincarnate entities. the disincarnate entities are from this universe. they are part of the natural balence of light and dark, and believe it or not are many times manifestations of what we need to learn here.

they can be vicious, but not nearly as harsh as a demon. the demon, because it is not of this universe, has no qualms about breaking the laws of this universe. that is what makes them so dangerous.

this being said, meditation does not open you up to being channeled by a demon. you have to invite them in. the invitation can be innocent, like in the movie the excorsist, but even so you still have to invite it.

demons are very rare. there are not very many of them here now as compared to the lessor bad guys. if you do come across one you will know it. there is nothing subtle about them.

[Quonuttott]

hi greywolf.....i've not been able to log in for a while as i've not had internet access....i'm so sorry to hear your nephew has had to experience these things and i'm hoping things are much better for him now. how are things?

lots of love.

[SteantyjetMaw]

ha! rabbit totem. i'm part cherokee and shawnee and ive had dreams about a "shadow wolf" since i was a very small boy, and when i go camping or backpacking i always run into them or see them from afar. when upclose they just look at me as if they know me and then go on their way. makes me wonder if i wasnt a wolf as part of my 2nd density experience.

cool story. i may have been a rabbit just as you say since, despite all my admiration for wolves, they scare me silly. speaking of heritage, a very wise man who once took the time to teach me a few things was also cherokee and shawnee. i considered him a great and wise teacher, and ever since he left earth plane i still think a lot about him.

maybe i should ask outloud next time i hear movement? grand ma? you there? hehe)

i actually did that once. the hot water in the bathroom got into the habit of coming on by itself. we'd wake up in the middle of the night with the hot water going full blast, and the room full of steam. we worried and wondered, and i hit on the right question when i finally asked my wife if her grandma was a clean freak. we are, shall we say, not immaculate housekeepers. so i had a talk with grandma, told her we're sorry we don't keep house to her standards, but we all love her, and we want her to know we're all comfortable & happy living in a somewhat messy house. would you believe it has not happened since? the hot water, i mean. your idea might be worth a try.

btw, that's not a story i would tell just anywhere. [wink]

- deerclan

[duminyricky]

i would like to thank everyone for their thoughts and thier support in the situation my nephew was going through. they have moved into another place, and as far as i know, things are lot better. my nephew is acctually getting sleep and not forcing himself to stay awake. i am actually going to quite my job here and move up to where they are at to be closer to them. i know it would mean alot to them and my mother. so, once again, i thank you all from the bottom of my heart and send my love to all.

[SteantyjetMaw]

ithey have moved into another place, and as far as i know, things are lot better. my nephew is acctually getting sleep and not forcing himself to stay awake.

i'm so happy, especially for your nephew. thanks for that feedback, greywolf.

deerclan

[brurdefdoro]

imo, any demons/ hell that do/ does exist.....could well be a form of illusion- the sum total of negative energy of the collective consciousness.
they aren't the true source of "evil".
it is a mere reflection.
we have to start by understanding it.
we have to learn to understand every part of ourselves.

yuppers. you get no disagreement from me on that one

for example, the way people view terrorists.
terrorists aren't "evil", they are simply following their own form of illusion they are under the control of. everyone has their own form of illusion, in some way. somewhere in a terrorists mind, they really believe they are doing the right thing, or they wouldn't be doing it. and i don't think that qualifies them to be a coward either! gee!
of course, taking another human being's life or harming them in any way is totally wrong- anything which abuses the free will of another.
by becoming it, we don't solve it.
we can only hope to transmute it.

as we yanks like to say, "there ya go." imo i think your rite.

gosh, i really wish i could wake the world up somehow.

i have all this energy swimming around at me inside, that i need to do something to change things, to play a big part in making a difference in the world somehow. i've always felt it.
is it just a fantasy?

keep on keepin on young lady, your on your way.

i have all this energy trapped inside, yearning to get through, and nobody to talk to about it who understands.

i find myself yearning to be with like-minded people every day of my life.
i feel it so badly it causes me great pain.

i feel ya.. you have come to the right place. i have been feeling the same way and spewed out alot of my soul in another post, saying things i would not dream of saying around too many people i know and guess what? so far i have been made to feel accepted, was a great lift for me.

but how the hell am i going to find other members of this group soul, who i can physically be with?
do i need to just put more trust in fate?

i find that hard....having faith.

from what i understand out of dw's writings is that faith is the main ingredient for our graduation in 2012, i mean come on... gamma ray's so strong that it will charbroil the entire surface of the planet???? and the kind, loving, giving people.. the people with faith? will ascend and come back to a new planet. "the meek shall inherit the earth"
believe me sister, thats a huge leap of faith and the fun part is.. there is only one other option, just dont believe. either way, it will all lead to the same thing, life or death.
i love you sister.. just keep on keeping on, do what ever you can and dont be afraid of failure, 1 out of a 1000 saved is great success, you have to avoid dwelling on the other 999

[duminyricky]

i know this forum is for positive spiritual enlightenment and the sort, but i do not know where to go to help out my sister. i was talking to my sister the other night, and i had just found out that my nephew is being attacked by a strong evil demon. she moved out of the house she was in, but that upset whatever evil presence was in there. now, she has contacted a clarvoyant to see what was happening, and that is when she was told about the entity. apparently, it had been in the house already ... dormant, but she accidentaly woke it up. she lives in washington state. i was wondering if there is any advice anyone can give, or if anyone knows of someone in washington state that could help get rid of this entity? the has talked to some arch bishops (i think) but they are hesitant to to do anything. i am guessing its a powerful being. or, if someone can point me in a direction to go, that will help too. thank you for your time.

[RicyReetred]

dear greywolf,

without trying to raise any expectations, i will say, my people will look into it, better said, they have already, otherwise they would not have agreed to help.
the situation will be resolved the most appropriate way of all involved, what this will be, i am not aware.
so, let's see what will be.
i only like to add, in my view there is no such thing as demons, and specially no evil demons. some just need more help then others.

regards detlef

[SteantyjetMaw]

demons! what are they? we have long been taught that they are evil, that they desire the destruction of humankind.

i must, however, play (no pun intended) devil's advocate here.

the earth abounds many spirits of nature. spirits of the earth, air, fire, water - angels of waterfalls, spirits of the sea, spirits of stones. what happens to them when big bulldozers churn up acre by acre of land? what happens when natural courses of water are changed? well, the same thing that happens when anyone else's home gets destroyed -- someone is left homeless.

i have no theology here, no philosophy, just things that my feelings have told me as i have felt more linked with the natural world. based on those feelings, many of the presences we call "demons" are nature spirits displaced from their homes. are they angry?

wouldn't you be?

as i emphasized, this is moo.

paul

[duminyricky]

detlef,
i understand where u are coming from when u say there are no evil demons. but my nephew was in the shower and his face was being pushed in the tub while the water was running. my sister and a friend of hers could not get him up off the tub till either it let him go or, maybe, the love for the child, overcame the strengh of said entity. i am not sure. i do know they are afraid. my nephew is afraid to go to sleep. i had recently found out that he had to go to the hospital because he was choking. i am not sure if it was an attack or not. upon talking to my sister, my nephew said he saw red shadowy figures when he was in the shower. they were telling him not to go to sleep and laughing. he was choked about 4 times. i personally dont know what to do to help their situation.

i do appreciate your people looking into it detlef. if there is anything that i should do, let me know also. i am praying for them.

[Amirmsheesk]

hello greywolf

i will ask my teachers in mediumship. one of them has also appeared on swedish tv "the unknown" where they helped spirits who are stuck, and don't understand they are dead or otherwise disturb pple on earth, to enter the light. don't know if they are familiar with possibly "evil" ones, but some can be very aggressive anyway.

love and light from transiten

[SteantyjetMaw]

i understand where u are coming from when u say there are no evil demons. but my nephew was in the shower and his face was being pushed in the tub while the water was running. my sister and a friend of hers could not get him up off the tub till either it let him go or, maybe, the love for the child, overcame the strengh of said entity...

greywolf, i wrote my last post before i saw either of your posts about the seriousness of the situation. otherwise i would not have written such a post that sounded glib and theoretical.

my experience in dealing with these things matches closely with what transiten and detlef wrote. the bulk of these scenarios are like the ones transiten described. they can be a big enough problem. there are, however, more serious types, but to date i have not met any who are not trapped in place in one way or another, either not able to get free, or just not knowing how. as a hypothetical example, you may have read old stories about sea pirates. the story-telling tradition says a pirate captain would typically row ashore with a load of stolen treasure, taking along several crewmen to dig a hole. after it was buried, the men who dug the hole were "volunteered" to accompany the treasure into the hole and become the treasure's guardian spirits. that type bond is a complicated one, with strands of trust, loyalty, and subservience woven in with the usual emotions of fear of death and rage at betrayal. unlocking those bonds becomes a matter of understanding what the feelings are, and releasing judgments on them. i'm not accustomed to working from this much distance, and this may be the first one i am not able to deal with, but we'll sure find out. with detlef's people working to help set everyone free, and your prayers, and undoubtedly other forum readers lending their silent assistance, all working together, we'll sure see what happens. i believe in the power of healing and freedom, and i've yet to see it fail. now i'm ready to stop yammering and go to work.

deerclan

[tsamprasxx]

should we fear demons. no. as i have learned over the years, fear is a powerful thing.

the next question people would ask is "do demons exist"

i would answer yes to this. the best description would be love of self. that love of self leads to a wanting to create fear aka control (for everyone wondering about why the goverment does what it does)

just as all negative/service to self beings crave control we have through mythos and religion labeled these ascended beings as demons.

i have seen many things while growing up which includes what i would refer to as angels since i grew up in the christian faith. when i was four i was shouting for my mom and pointed up in the corner of a room and told her that jesus was right there. she didnt see it but i knew it was jesus because a strong presence came over me and told me it was.

same thing goes for "demons". i have been in some pretty weird/strange situations where i see what for all other explanations and purposes had to be a "demon" or negative entity. at that time it felt like fear and control was what it was after almost like it was feeding off of my fear.

i still occasionally see beings of light, but more often than not its more of a presence that is in the room with me.

i always say in my head (although out loud works too) that all entities here in the light and love of god are welcome here.

most the time the presence stays, other times i dont feel that "being stared at" sensation any more.

[SteantyjetMaw]

i always say in my head (although out loud works too) that all entities here in the light and love of god are welcome here.

i like the calm, awake attitude that you show here, boyscout -- i really appreciate your putting it into words so well in this thread. i can't speak for anyone else, but personally i find it very valuable for someone else to do that.

i honestly have a bit of trouble with it myself - the whole "fear" thing, really - because of stuff that happened when i was very young. i had a fairly bad injury, and i made some unwise decisions (easy to do when you're 3, lol) about fear & self-reliance. since coming here, i've had the blessing of meeting people who've overcome that type of problem or just decided not to go there in the first place, and i am finding that their calm & sane decision away from fear is helping me to start getting grounded in a similar type of attitude.

so now all you good people know that even though i'm running my mouth all the time on here that i am also getting a lot out of your posts too.

and since i can't leave without running my mouth at least a little bit, i'll share one surprising thing i've begun learning about my new rabbit totem. rabbits are some of the most fearless creatures on the planet. we miss that culturally in our language, because we talk about "running like a rabbit," or " a scared rabbit," but our words betray our cultural ignorance. you see, we also have cats. they're helping me learn from my rabbit friends. i have seen a mama rabbit pounce menacingly toward a corner of her hutch where a cat happened to be strolling by. another time, one of our bunny friends got out of his hutch for a while, and i saw him actually lunge at a cat that got a little too curious.

"scared rabbit?" i'll be proud the day somebody says i have a rabbit's courage, because i'll tell you, standing up to somebody who can eat you shows a lot more courage than chasing down somebody that you can eat.

hats off to rabbits. and btw, they also display their wisdom by being mischievous little b****rs.

- deerclan, evolving slowly toward rabbit-hood