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Old 09-27-2008, 12:46 AM   #21
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ok, i just watched (actually i just listened to the mp3 version) of this interview with miriam delicado, and i must say that i really don't understand why kerry and bill find this so fascinating. i mean, this woman is obviously manipulated by nordics. and, there are even grays involved with them!

is it just me or is project camelot starting to turn in a bit wrong direction?? i also didn't like the george green interview, and ever since then, i think camelot hasn't been the same.

and it's no wonder.. they've been out there for quite long, they became quite popular, and if anyone with a certain agenda (human or non-human) wanted to misinform us, they could have just sent them some people to ruin the overall picture.

i think we should watch out even more for what we accept there... it's not the same, and i'm darn sure of it.

what do you think?
yes i agree that some of the interviews should be looked at with discernement. however, just like any other media source you have to use your own intuition to determine what you choose to integrate into your paradigm. there is a great deal of valuble information embeded in some of the interviews.

seeing as how i have absolutely no experience with close encouters of the the third kind i am not going to jump to any conclusions about weather or not miriam delicado was misled by et's.

she did clearly point out that the drones that these et's where using had round black eyes and not oval shaped like the greys.

the only problem i have seen with some of the interviews is that karry has a tendency to lead the witness sometimes.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:59 AM   #22
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i think the folks at project camelot are about as brave and honest as you're likely to find these days on the internets. i think their work is timely and valuable for what it is -- an ongoing investigation into the emerging fringe-related issues of the moment. whether or not their perspective accords with mine is not important at all to me: i thrive on difference and diversity in these matters, and truly need it in order to clarify my own ongoing intuitive sense, which changes on a daily basis now.

dissing these folks for their angle is to me perhaps the inevitable result of the times we're in.
i cannot agree more. they are doing what they think is right, with their limited understanding, like most of us. they have a lot of facts without the understanding of it.

it might just be coincidence, but this thread about nassim haramein was in project avalon section. then project camelot was locked(read only) and that thread was moved into it from the avalon section.
there might be other threads, but i remember this one as i posted in it.

even though i understand the concept of creation a bit, the creator is hiding in that singularity we call conciousness. 4th density sounds just as troublesome as 3rd density. 5th density sounds attractive. can i skip my lessons? free will is such an illusion.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:39 AM   #23
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i check in at project camelot pretty regularly, and project avalon now and then, after all, they talk to everybody! but i too have been concerned about the hair-on-fire doom and gloom that seems to crop up frequently there.

i'm intrigued with players like burisch, "deacon", fulford and some others, so i keep checking back. these guys, while thoroughly exposed to the foul underbelly of the power elite, somehow manage to keep a pretty clear sense of optimism. but i have no need or use for the morbid fatalistic attitude i often pick up from some of the interviews on pc.

i appreciate david wilcock's balance. he has a strong compass with law of one, and that's worth a lot. i think the problem, at least for me, with pc and pa is that there is no such compass...and without an overarching focus grounded in spirituality, such as loo, people tend to bounce all over and get dragged into egoic obsessions...fear and worry and control and such.

i'll keep checking back at pc, and really am happy to know that they are there, but will keep my balance along the way.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:00 AM   #24
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yes, miriam delicado and george green are influenced by their et contacts. yes, they may be spreading untruths and/or fear without intending to. no, that does not mean we should adopt a suspicious mindset. it only underscores the importance of listening to ourselves first and last.
i wasn't entirely sure about george green or michael st clair, but there is a vibe about miriam which i somehow like.

the question is, i guess, is whether or not we should have reason to mistrust all et's who have blonde hair.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:05 AM   #25
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it was interesting that miriam always wanted to look into the eyes of whoever (et) was speaking to her, and that she wouldn't listen until they had done so.

i definitely feel that the eyes are a way of seeing into a person's soul.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:58 AM   #26
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i've been walking away feeling pretty gloomy and scared from the project camelot site lately. i was beginning to wonder if it was just me feeling this way.

now that everyone mentioned it here, it was just because the doom & gloom news have intensified recently in pc. i started going to the pc site because it was rich with very interesting information. but recently i also feel they have gotten sidetracked towards the negative end.

i do believe they have the best of intentions, but are a bit lost at the moment. they always emphasize that we are able to change our future to the better, yet unknowingly, are instilling fear.

so it comes back to personal responsibility. we are responsible for what we take in, and what we refuse to accept. we need to discern, and remember to breathe.

i believe it is also our responsibility (for those of us who are aware, and if you are here reading this, it is most likely you) to be the beacon of light in these dark times we live in. we need to be spreading positive energy right where are. that's the only way to counter the negative force consuming this world right now.
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:25 AM   #27
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i agree with pc has gone downhill for me. it has been unfortunate but now they are just down the rabbit hole and grabbing at whatever roots that have some sort of story and substance.
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:57 AM   #28
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hey all,

i see that in my post above, the name i mentioned does not show up in the post. i guess you will have to pm if you want the link.

i highly suggest you do so!!!!!!

the most enlightening channeler/teacher i have run across has been david, but in a close second is this particular british lady who has been channeling a different entity for many years now. she has her own youtube channel and you definately need to visit it and learn what that entity has to teach and simply receive more positive light that they send.

and believe me--it's positive--about the exact opposite of a george green armageddon scenario.

so please ... pm me ... right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's an order. j/k
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Old 09-27-2008, 06:18 AM   #29
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i appreciate david wilcock's balance. he has a strong compass with law of one, and that's worth a lot. i think the problem, at least for me, with pc and pa is that there is no such compass...and without an overarching focus grounded in spirituality, such as loo, people tend to bounce all over and get dragged into egoic obsessions...fear and worry and control and such.
great point! im glad you posted this part.
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Old 09-27-2008, 08:42 AM   #30
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wow, thanks for this thread. for the last couple of days after listening to the latest on pc and a few other places, i have been feeling extremely anxious with some fear creeping in. the negativity really affected me. it is good to hear that others have similar feelings.
while listening to george and miriam, i was thinking about dw and his balanced views. it did not stop my mind from churning all night though. i tell myself that the future is not set in stone and i like to believe that things will always turnout.
i guess that i will hold up my little candle until the darkness passes.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:19 AM   #31
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i believe it is also our responsibility (for those of us who are aware, and if you are here reading this, it is most likely you) to be the beacon of light in these dark times we live in. we need to be spreading positive energy right where are. that's the only way to counter the negative force consuming this world right now.
i completely agree. we must walk through the valley of the shadow of death and be the light. we must lead by example those around us to live in a state of peace and balance and love rather than fear. trusting and knowing that we are spiritual beings having a physical experience, we must act accordingly and in doing so, we will assist others in doing the same.
much peace and love to us all!
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:26 PM   #32
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but still, this time it's not all about the fear part. like dw said, there will be some dificulties, so it's kinda natural that we are prepared. but what happens with pc, is more like they've been fed with disinformation, and we can't really prove it, but it really feels that way. not cos i don't like this doom and gloom scenario. it doesn't matter what i like or not. it just doesn't sound right.

the most obvious thing is that lots of aliens are giving totally different and opposite views, and this is where my alarm started off. george green. i mean, the exact moment i saw that guy, i knew somethings not right.

and as for dan burisch, theres something about this marcia which really i didn't like. and there's a very interesting story about my dan burisch experience which i will share with you guys later. some big synchronisities telling me that somethings wrong there as well.

btw, interesting nickname you got there winterspring:d looks kinda familiar hehehehe
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:01 PM   #33
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when i first found project camelot, i was very excited that someone had taken the time to embark on a project of this magnitude. i believe as was posted before that their mission is to get this information out there for all to see. not everyone will interpret it the same way. i take my hat off to them for being able to try to remain unbiased throughout all of the interviews that they have done. i think that they have tried to maintain a balance of thought on theories and provide us with different perspectives to either take in or reject.
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:13 PM   #34
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i personally do believe that people easier feel fear and buy into the doom and gloom stuff because it feels more realistic than a world that could be totally awesome. and the problem could be we have never really been in contact with how such a beautiful and perfect world would work. we've always been conditioned to dystopian movies instead of utopian movies where anything is possible.

i am like david 110% sure that eveything will be fine, and i learned to look brightly on life before learning about law of one. i learned that the afterlife was beautiful so i stopped being afraid and removed my fears, and then i learned about loo and removed the rest of my fears.

we will see changes in the world, and there won't be any big problems for all who is awakened spiritually, while thoose who don't want to seek the truth and choose service to others will continue the lessons in the 3rd density in a new 3d enviroment. but the goal of david and many others are to help as many as possible to reach this new 4d utopian paradise!

project camelot is a good source to information, but i wish that they where more in tune with davids work and not the doom and gloom scenarios. people like fulford are always nice to listen to, since he's really into the negative aspects and involved with it and now has a position to help create a better world.

things are getting better, that i know

much love!
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:54 PM   #35
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...i do believe they have the best of intentions, but are a bit lost at the moment. they always emphasize that we are able to change our future to the better, yet unknowingly, are instilling fear...i believe it is also our responsibility (for those of us who are aware...to be the beacon of light in these dark times we live in. we need to be spreading positive energy right where are. that's the only way to counter the negative force consuming this world right now.
i think you have captured it. the darkness and fear are pervasive these days. in addition to all the stuff we focus on here and at camelot, the street level issues like the economy and international affairs are truly frightening at levels i haven't seen in a very long time. actually, given the condition and role of our government as both cause and solution, i guess i never have seen it this alarming in my 56 years (but that's probably a different thread.)

in spite of it all, i find myself calm and enthusiastic, settled and clear. i find myself talking my friends down from what borders on panic over the palin/mccain ticket regularly, and both i and several people i know have tangible setbacks from the condition of the economy that are truly threatening. it is no coincidence that darkness is so pervasive. it is certainly an aspect of the cycles that are intensifying and compressing so rapidly.

if this is the case, there should be a positive upswing soon (maybe around the time of the election?) although with the fractal compression that is going on these days, you better be ready or you might miss it!
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:34 PM   #36
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i must agree with most of you - interview with miriam was the least convinving i could find on camelots website. i have never seen such a lack of factual information.

btw, could anyone explain me where did henry deacon dissapear from their forum?
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:32 AM   #37
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well, i haven't listened to this miriam person, and wasn't planning on it either; and now it sounds like that's probably a good thing. i don't really need any help; whenever i need a good scare, i just look at the road we're on and where we're headed! haha! j/k:d

i think bill and kerry will be all right, i can see them get caught up in the excitement/fear of the moment, sometimes, but they're really good-hearted people, so they will be fine. the biggest danger i see at the moment, is that in their endeavor to provide a platform, or pulpit for everyone to speak their mind, they will inevitably attract a few of those who do not carry the highest vibration. this is mostly because it is the very nature of these types to grab the spotlight, while their nemesis, the lightworkers are quietly working away in their own little corner, without attracting much attention at all.
just my opinion--feel free to make it yours!:d
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:43 AM   #38
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i'm very happy to see that some other people are questioning some of p.c.'s lectures, as i have been quite upset with some of the scenarios, and equally upset for posting this information on their website. i posted about it here, but it wasn't approved, so i'm also surprised the mods have allowed your statements.

i felt green's information was contradictive to david's teachings, and i compared three of george's videos over time, in which he spoke of some of the same things, and each time he told the story, he changed important details. i'm am sure he is a very pleasant man in social settings, but his information he is not good when we need to keep love and peace in our hearts. i find his messages to be fear-based, and i'm also concerned that he is repeating information he's heard from other persons, and not from the pleadians.

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Old 09-28-2008, 10:43 AM   #39
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great thread. i found myself agreeing with everyone's response on this issue, even when contradictory. i learned many years ago that paradox is a given in spiritual endeavor, what is true on one hand is equally untrue on the other. hard to understand on a logical level, but can be intuited on another level.

anyway, my own response to the interview in question was that i felt both attracted and repelled by the lady. she said a lot of interesting things, but at the same time i felt uncomfortable with her, on the non logical level.

i tend to "feel" my way through life rather than use my will or logic. sometimes my feelings will ask me to use logic in situations where it's necessary, but mostly i operate on an inuitional level that i can't explain to anyone unless they know what i'm talking about.

so i enjoyed what she said, but didn't like the way she "felt". i enjoy listening to all the interviews on pc, and have a respect for what they're doing, but as lots of you have pointed out, the emphasis on doom and gloom calls for regular breaks to rebalance and focus on the positive again. almost everyone mentioned discernment, good advice.

david is such an inspiration and he definitely helps me focus on the positive. i tried to get into the pa forum, but as someone pointed out, the spirituality level there is not the same as on this forum. i feel more comfortable here.

nordics and greys? have no opinion one way or the other. i don't think one can generalize about any race and say they are all good or all bad. there's a mixture of everything in every group of beings. i don't believe in good or bad anyway, there are only levels of ignorance and development. i agree with the person who mentioned that british lady, she's a real sweetheart, she and david make a good pair.

so that's my two cents worth. thanks again david and all you wonderful people on this forum who brighten up my days.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:25 AM   #40
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i have the same feeling about them. just listened to the latest george green stuff and it just does not resonate with me. nuclear war fallout and stuff like that. i have heared several times that nuclear war is not allowed to happen on earth anymore and i believe that. i also believe that the timelines really have changed and that our future (not even the near future) is not dire. i maybe misled, but i am truly optimistic about the future and i am happy that the changes in the economy and the world are starting to take place.

regarding kerry and bill, even in the interviews with david you can sense that they do not share his very optimistic view of our future. they have a problem with that. they seem to go more in the direction of people telling them negative things that they suppose to happen.

like david always says: listen to your inner voice and guidance and you will find the truth and the right path for you.
yes, i`ve also seen kerry get a little testy with david if he tries to say that things are not going to be as bad as many think. she cuts him off and tells him that they have interviewed others with information saying that it is going to be worse then we think. it`s like she wants to argue with david, then i notice bill steps in to get it back on track. i think kerry forgets that they are there to get davids view on things, not just to compare what information they may already have. that should be done later. if it were me that she was doing that to, it would make me wonder what their intentions were with this kind of interview. i see more and more of this being done by journalists. they tend to cut off the ones they are interviewing only to slam that person with what they believe is the truth. that is being very biased, and there is no room for that in journalisum.
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