[kSmica]

my intuition on st. claire is that he is captain disinformation. he may have originally been truthful, however when all of his super powerful buddies saw that he had the inside tract on the back door internet media, they said... hmmm mr. st. claire, what would you trade for speading some disinformation.

i just listened to his most recent audio interview with project camelot. i personally think that the guy is a smoke screen. he can say what ever he wants or else an army of ninja's will unleash thier fury on you? i am waiting for the theme song to the mortal combat movie to start up.

then he goes on to say that the ninjas could rally up all of the martial arts schools in the world and form a mercenary force to combat the illuminati. i think he may have accidentally channeled a negative entity.

[beethyday]

i find d. wilcock to be have a better presentation than m. st. clair, although st. clair is pretty decent in his own right, i am not dissing anyone.

from an unbias point of view, i find that st. clair's interviews that are at least 30 mins long, usually 30 mins to 2 hours in length, tend to be lacking in substance of detail regarding some of his theories. he doesn't have a whole lot to present to back up the things he says, ie; evidence.

i think wilcock not only presents his material better, he backs it up with plentiful, true, and accurate sources right there whenever he presents, be it radio or video or in person. if you took the time to look up everything david wilcock does list as sources for information in his books, particularly regarding psychological and/or mental things he discusses, you will find out he speaks nothing but the truth 99.9% of the time which makes things downright..

scary!

which is why:

david wilcock is so unusually polite, nice, and happy whenever recorded for radio or video(internet etc). because deep down inside, whether he likes to admit it or speak about it or not (he doesnt like to speak about it, i read in one of his interviews) i feel even he has a gut instinct (that he doesnt like to talk about as i've seen in his videos) that 2012 is going to go very bad physically. but thats his niche', that spiritually we'll become better or higher beings, despite a (possible/probable) physical death. or we may not die, and just advance into a higher state in the blink of an eye, only time will tell what is going to happen.

[moderator note: mr wilcock has said that he believes that no serious physical catastrophies shall occur in regard to earth changes during our 3d sojourn.]

[viagradiscounttt]

insofar as david has shared with us material from his source detailing some measure of a soul-relationship with edgar cayce, i gather that as edgar ministered largely to individuals with health readings and so on, david is more 'configured' to minister to the total human lifewave of earth.

to me, this is readily apparent, even not taking into account the cayce connection - which i find obviously interesting, yet not of any indispensibly intrinsic importance to us at large. i do instinctively sense this connection, but david as the reincarnation of edgar cayce does not define the world encompassing mission of our boy.

what strikes me while reading back along this thread is that as david is concerned primarily with humanity at large, there is implicit the necessity to address the concerns of humanity; to become familiar with, address and be empathetically immersed in that which pre-occupies humanity, in an effort to begin to point out to the majority-3d-masses a potential means of addressing and integrating their own immersion into all things 3d in the light of a realistic, inspired and educated appraisal of this sobering and undeniable reality, as well as the very real potential for man to make huge strides in his 3d-wise maturation process.

i believe that david is not only here to encourage the wanderers insofar as the end-strategy is concerned, but perhaps more in resonance with his mission, to visit the 3d majority where they live, in an effort to address them on their own terms - that is, beginning with their own 3d pre-occupations in general, and offering something virtually unheard of.

this something is that which begins very realistically at the doorstep of 3d mass human sensibility. (ufos, war, conspiracy, fear, politics, black ops, relationship issues, family, friends, work, love, hate, regionalism, nationalism, the weather, religious entrapment, etc, etc... together being reflections of humanity's unresolved shadow or relative sense of separation side, and a point of great confusion, and calling for catalyst)

from this 'grounding' and intimate relationship with the yearning body of 3d man, we are lead into a comprehensive gradient of a scientifically proven and extremely comprehensive - accessable to the masses, yet cutting cleanly through imagined need for fear - opportunity for much of humanity to begin to throw off the shackles of 3d intrigue and hopefully to eventually have catalysed many into awakening to who and what they really are; who may otherwise have not awakened.

it seems to me that i discern something of this unfolding in the mission of david wilcock. perhaps to truly resonate with humanity, david needs to resonate with these 3d human distortions, and fully master the intrigue, and thus present as undistorted an appraisal as possible.

yet he as any must have the wisdom to not be engulfed too far, as this is the danger any wanderer faces. perhaps david is fully aware of the potential for 'negative' greeting, and is wise enough to know that this is inevitable - and to know that fearlessness is the only real shield there against.

simply put - a lifeguard, in order to rescue a drowning man, must be willing to dive in and swim all the way out to the flailer, (something a little more than standing beckoning on the shore) and yet to have been wise enough to have prepared himself beforehand by becoming somewhat of a strong swimmer!

a crude analogy, as we all in this world need to independently grasp the ring - but i feel david has succeeded in beginning to find a way to get a lifeline out to potentially many millions of souls, in a way that has yet to come to full fruition, but may yet come close to striking a resounding chord with the very soul of mankind, thus offering options as yet unseen by collective humankind.

here, david is a leader amongst the efforts of many. none of this is to attempt to portray him as anything more than a man. an ordinary man with an extraordinary mission, one aimed at addressing the very soul of mankind as a whole.

if edgar had come back with the predisposition to address humanity at large, how do you think he would proceed? would he not perhaps come to be sublimely familiar with and resonant with just who and what humanity was, distortions and all, and with what preoccupied mankind as a necessary starting point? i've never known of a person with such a well demonstrated insight into the human condition as has dw - this after having read a great deal of what david has published, and having interacted with so many over the years - my personal take.

i see how many are concerned with david's seeming fixation upon the murky, moonlit aspects of human intrigue. my personal guess is that this is david's accepted lot, and that he is very aware of the risk and all, and yet this is necessary in order for the soul of man to begin to hear what david and the rest of the helpers of earthman are saying, perhaps with great risk on david's and the rest of the wanderers' part. but that's love for ya!

this is just my take on things, a candid snapshot of my own personal views, and not intended to set dw apart from that which we all are. but he's a cool dude. let's offer some positive affirmations and prayers. mark

[Frogzlovzy]

this st. clair guy, whoever he is, is not the devil, ok. probably just a little confused. this whole disinformation thing does not sit well with me.

to quote ra, in the law of one; please attempt to see those around you as the creator. (i don't want to change the quote, though it sounds authoritative)

david has infact done very well in validating himself. we just need, i think, to have a good memory. (i.e. remember his blog where he mentions how he has had repeated psychical validity, and reels off a list of examples.)

it's more like, david is mind controlled waahh! as in the waahhing of a baby. someone (i.e. the person in competition who pointed the finger at david) who can't take responsibility for their own percieved sense of self (i.e. perhaps profession fears) and projects onto others.

although i have no doubt david has and will make mistakes because he is human. he is doing well now from my understanding.

[Janarealiti]

thank you, mark.

a well considered respoonse as always. i can understand david's involvement in these topics as a way to better connect with the world's masses, and this may well be his purpose in doing so. that is, to be a voice of love in an otherwise desolate landscape of fear and dread.

still, i wish i david would take the opportunity to state clearly for those who hang on his every word, that ultimately these topics are not important for the harvest, and are being used by him primarily to bring more lost souls (wanderer and non-wanderer alike) into the fold.

alternatively, if david really does feel that these conspiracy theories are important, i'd love to hear why they are, and what exactly he would suggest or even request that this "army of light" he has already amassed at the website, do about it?

i have taken his posting these interviews on this website as a way of keeping his blog active with whatever was occupying his time. a noble action on his part, but i think we could all use a little context as to how to view this in the bigger picture of the harvest and/or his mission on earth.

just my thoughts,

3d sunset

[XinordiX]

i find d. wilcock to be have a better presentation than m. st. clair, although st. clair is pretty decent in his own right, i am not dissing anyone.

from an unbias point of view, i find that st. clair's interviews that are at least 30 mins long, usually 30 mins to 2 hours in length, tend to be lacking in substance of detail regarding some of his theories. he doesn't have a whole lot to present to back up the things he says, ie; evidence.

i think wilcock not only presents his material better, he backs it up with plentiful, true, and accurate sources right there whenever he presents, be it radio or video or in person. if you took the time to look up everything david wilcock does list as sources for information in his books, particularly regarding psychological and/or mental things he discusses, you will find out he speaks nothing but the truth 99.9% of the time which makes things downright..

scary!

which is why:

david wilcock is so unusually polite, nice, and happy whenever recorded for radio or video(internet etc). because deep down inside, whether he likes to admit it or speak about it or not (he doesnt like to speak about it, i read in one of his interviews) i feel even he has a gut instinct (that he doesnt like to talk about as i've seen in his videos) that 2012 is going to go very bad physically. but thats his niche', that spiritually we'll become better or higher beings, despite a (possible/probable) physical death. or we may not die, and just advance into a higher state in the blink of an eye, only time will tell what is going to happen.

[moderator note: mr wilcock has said that he believes that no serious physical catastrophies shall occur in regard to earth changes during our 3d sojourn.]

not to go off subject, or point any fingers, but is it odd that this user registered to this site simply to post this one message?

david wilcock has even made it a point to say that he doesn't simply do what he does in order to (hopefully) prevent disasters by means of promoting positivity. disaster simply doesn't fit into his model.

[glamourcitys]

so let's say that david is feeding us misinformation.

we are constantly bombarded with negativity every where we turn. it is hard to avoid fear these days. it is everywhere you turn. just this evening i experienced the us having a complete financial meltdown, world market crashes, depression and a nuclear war...all in about 2 hours of news reading. if it were possible, i'd be out looking for one of those communities mr. st. clair has mentioned, and i would shut myself there until kingdom come or when the poles shift, whichever comes first. but then, i get the feeling that would really beat the whole purpose of me being here.

when i come to this site, and read up on the postings the community here has put up, along with david's messages, it has the exact opposite effect of what the "outside" world does to me. i find peace of mind. if that is the type of misinformation being fed, i actually welcome it.

one can "live" with the fear of death, and die many deaths. one can live without, and die only once.

[ansarigf]

winterspring,

i could not agree with you more! prior to hearing about david being the possible reincarnation of cayce earlier this year, over a very short time frame i had become extremely negative on life and the future of this world. i think i may have even experienced 'the dark night of the soul'. once i found this site as well as the loo material i had a real turnaround.

so now i may not be having those catalysts to deal with that i had in my 'dark days', but i do have more time to work on meditation and more positive things. so in my mind i welcome the, in general, positive words from david and even the forum members here. whether it is how things will truly come to pass or not.

peace,
john

[lapyignipinge]

just kidding...unless of course you're this
guy! :http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...4&postcount=63



this dude predicts a doomy and gloomy scenario for the future, in which he advises people to form small communities. he says he wants to help people by informing them, not scaring them. but when you tell people to go hide in the hills, you're going to instill fear whether it's your intention or not.

this encourages my suspicion of the prophet who fondles his crystal ball and sees that it's filled with fire...while perhaps not hearing the pleasurable giggles coming from the devil attached to it.


personally, i wanna see a stclair vs. wilcock debate, followed by a light saber duel.

questions, thoughts, concerns?

i read stclairs site. it dosent move me, stir me, convince me or educate me. david's site has moved me --proofed me and ---truthed me.