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Old 04-21-2008, 04:57 AM   #21
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i think the dream was about my oversoul, or reflective of an inner yearning to be reunited with "christ consciousness" again.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:33 PM   #22
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dear aj,

"an ancient ship
decks creaking
on the calm, sunny sea..
.... his eyes were clear and pure
and light shone through him
in one timeless moment
....drowning from yearning
fevered i'm burning
in sadness
and longing
(part of your dream)

" think the dream was about my oversoul, or reflective of an inner yearning to be reunited with "christ consciousness" again." (your conclusion)

found this and thought of you and this longing...
"surely the part that water plays in bringing spiritual revelation in scripture can be seen to be full of deeper meaning considering that it is the esoteric symbol for the etheric body, which alone can begin to reveal the spiritual world to the human being." fr smith's "the burning bush",see, the second coming, p.7 (entire chapter gives a context in which to place, much about the heart and pineal gland)
http://www.bibleandanthroposophy.com...in/smith1.html

"we can now return to the concept of moving water, which pervades the old testament (e.g., gen 2,10-14; ps 1,3), also john’s gospel. christ tells the woman at the still well that he will give her “living water . . . which will become a spring in [her] welling up to eternal life” (jn 4,10,14). then in jn 5,7 we see that the lame man at the pool cannot be healed until the water is made to move (how like what must happen with the “lotus flowers”). later, jesus appears to his disciples walking on the water (jn 6,19, as well as all of the synoptics). and when his side was punctured, “blood and water” flowed out (jn 19,34), both representative of the etheric body; also, the ego first made its entrance into the human being’s body through the blood. consider as well that moses came to israel on the water (ex 2,3-10), and while he was on the water the etheric body he had received from zarathustra was illuminated (see “spiritual economy”). so also zarathustra, in his many preparatory incarnations, came “on the water” (see the book with fourteen seals [bfs]; also nhl, “the apocalypse of adam”)." nina
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:31 PM   #23
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may i just ask, out of curiosity, what you make of it, nina?

any thoughts?

thank you for sharing your findings with me.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:27 AM   #24
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i have had dreams like this before. it wasn't exactly the same, or course, but it was the feeling that i was left with when i woke up that i can relate to your story. that feeling of pure love. a warm fuzzy feeling in my chest that stays with me the whole day.

i think sometimes it is my guardian angel who is coming to me in my dreams to show me what real true love is. so that i don't forget and so that i know what i should be searching for. and so that i don't settle for anything less than pure true love.

i can't wait until i find it.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:26 PM   #25
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dear aj,
i was able to study w/cayce biographer harmon bro and his wife june in boston. did term paper on jung's concept of anima and animus in movie analysis of "shadowlands" (marriage of c.s.lewis). read "invisible partners" by john sanford and this was a big help in understanding more about role of the male and female within. this quote provides a good way to answer your question about your dream - about the spiritual current! (liked how foo felt touched by guardian angel in his). this quote offers a wide open doorway!

fr sanford:"the desire of the soul to unite with consciousness and forge an indivisible and creative personality is the most powerful urge within us. on this level, the urge toward wholeness and the urge to find god are identical, and so this urge to wholeness or individuation is also called by jung the religious instinct. the image of the conjunctio, or the union of opposites, of the joining together of the male and female, is the image par excellence of the joining together of the conscious and unconscious parts of the personality. that is why so many of our dreams, and the parables of jesus as well, concern weddings- apt symbols of the union of opposites toward which the living energy within us strives." (my insert - do not limit religious instinct -not trying to define jung's particular meaning here! - see last link)

am adding this here aj, to give more thought re-lyour longing for christ consciousness.
cayce readings frequently pointed towards gospel of john, as does steiner here, shared from "the christian mystery" review by bobby matherne
http://www.doyletics.com/arj/christia.html

" [page 47] we can pass through these seven steps by repeatedly allowing john's gospel, from the thirteenth chapter on, to come alive within us. first, the washing of the feet, the path of wanting to serve, the bowing down in humility; second, the scourging; third, the crowning with thorns; fourth, the crucifixion; fifth, the mystical death on the cross; sixth, burial in the earth; seventh, the resurrection. these are the seven inner steps of the christian mystery, which were displayed externally on the field of world history. throughout their entire lives, christian monks constantly permeated themselves with the contents of john's gospel from chapter thirteen onward. that is the source of their power.

in the course of evolution one's i-being works on one's astral, etheric, and physical bodies to purify them. as these three bodies are purified, the purified part is called in manas (life spirit), buddhi (spirit self), and atman (spirit body) or in esoteric christianity, holy spirit, son, and father. buddhi is also called in various places the logos, the word, or the christ. (page 70) the purification of astral body can be likened to a second hand on a clock, of the etheric body, the minute hand and of the physical body the hour hand. the astral body is quickly affected by things you take in consciously from your external world. the etheric body is affected more slowly by things that occurred in your surroundings that you do not give conscious attention to and yet which over time affect your temperament and character. the physical body is transformed over much longer periods of time through the process of "rhythmizing the breathing process."

[page 73] we have to distinguish then in christian esotericism, first, the holy spirit (christians have as much of the holy spirit in them as they have ennobled their astral bodies); second, the son, the logos, the word (christians have as much of the son, the logos, the word within them as they have transformed their etheric bodies); and third, the father (christians have as much of the father in them as their physical bodies have been transformed and made immortal). only initiates can have the father consciously within them."

matherne also shared this which so reminds me of an earlier cayce writer who compiled a bk titled "stand as stars":
"speaking over fifty years before the structure of dna was discovered to be two intertwining spirals, steiner correctly predicted such a structure in this lecture in basel on september 19, 1906 as he discussed how the structure of the esoteric script is written into the world:
[page 149] an example would be the spiral, which we can see in the cosmos in the form of two intertwined vortexes in the orion nebula. microcosmically the first development of the human embryo takes place in a corresponding form....
in the double spiral we have the essential process of the old spiraling out and the new spiraling in. this process is at work whether it is a dying plant releasing a new fruit, a decadent culture (atlantis) being replaced a new culture (india), or decaying world being replaced by a new world as in the orion spiral nebula.
another step on the path of rosicrucian initiation is the finding of the philosopher's stone.
[page 158, 159] a rosicrucian says, "today your body is made of flesh, but one day you will be able to build it up for yourself through your breathing. the essence of 'plantness' will appear in you, but you will not sleep as plants do; you will be clairvoyant at the same time."
we are advancing toward this goal, the goal of constructing our bodies from carbon — ordinary carbon or coal as the philosopher's stone. it will not be black coal but transparent-as-water carbon when the human body has become starlike."

for comparison of jung and steiner, you can see the review of "jung and steiner:the birth of a new psychology" by gerhard wehr
http://www.doyletics.com/arj/jungstei.htm
"a model goes in one's mind like water goes into a vase. the vase holds the water in it in the shape of the vase. that's the intrinsic nature of content -- it takes on the shape of the container which holds it. a follower of jung or steiner is like a vase holding their works in the follower's shape. to be considered as process, one must incorporate what is taken within and change as a result of its ingestion, as when a dehydrated runner takes in fresh water and springs to life once more. the runner does not hold the water as content, but rather absorbs it into her body and changes thereby. what distinguishes the inanimate vase from the animate runner is the ability the runner has to incorporate water into her being. similarly the animate runner is able to incorporate "different worlds of consciousness — spirits, angels, gods" into her soul and be changed thereby.

[page 15] soul is not a container of contents but the inherent capacity for perceiving spiritual realities. we are soul and spiritual beings, not beings with a soul and a spirit. . . . we are like harps, sounding when the beings of the soul and spiritual worlds sound." nina
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