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Old 04-14-2007, 11:52 AM   #1
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hello to all!

this is intended to serve as a message of deep, and heart-felt appreciation for the entity known as, "david," who has been a consistant, tireless, (with occasional down-time) "worker in the light;" performing various missions down through the ages, perhaps always knowing that this time, and "job" was on his future resume. well, the time is finally here, and he is once again taking the lead, and not for all of us to follow along behind him anymore, but to march right along beside him in this time.

for all of those who have awakened, are awakening, or are having trouble getting the sleep from your eyes, make this your home page. dive into this material, and take away whatever resonates with your soul, and come back often, because unlike no other place, this site is actually evolving before our eyes, and you are invited to join the evolution!

on a personal note: i was a participant in davids' first public outing, in october 2004, which he called "healing the atlantean wound." seventeen of us got to share in an 8 day adventure on a beautiful new cruise ship. (i got stuck sharing a cabin with a guy named nelson, who snored. lucky for me, i had packed my ear-plugs) on our last night together aboard, we received a ra reading intended for the group,, that david later admitted was a surprise to him also. well, we got the message. several bonds formed during those 8 days at sea, sailing over parts off a once great continent, and have continued, and strengthen to this day.

about six months later, twenty-six or so of us now, traveled to egypt; gathered in the king's chamber of the great pyramid, traveled the length of the country, from cairo, to abu-simbal, and got a lot of sand in our shoes. but that's another story...

and just who am i, you might ask? well, i'm a railroad engineer, originally from cleveland, ohio. i drive trains.

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Old 04-14-2007, 07:19 PM   #2
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ah, that must have been wonderful. at first i was wondering how many of you seemed to know each other, as well as david, in person. i would have loved to take part in something like that... unfortunately it seems unlikely at least for a couple of years. i'm a relatively poor college student, and although i'm fortunate to have parents that aren't critical of me for my interests, i'm not sure that they'd be interested in something like this with me. still, i'd like to meet some of you guys, although the only likely situation would be if there was something like meeting or book signing in chicago over the summer.
i just hope i'll get a chance to meet david before he gets too famous and that becomes impossible.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:56 PM   #3
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my dear friend jivatman,

hello i am the snoring one, and bob is my lifetime buddy. some people get it and he does. as a;; of those that go on excursions with david. he does not want to be an icon, because he understands that we are all the co-creator, however he does realize as i do that he is a great teacher that we have sub consciuosly aked for. it's kind of like we are lost puppies (wanderers) asking what the hell am i doing here. so you search and fight for some light and there you have it, david appears, (by the way the search ain't easy, at least in my account) so people want to have an icon (because of our tribal animal instincts) but it is no longer about that as bob mentioned. "we can walk with him". remember, "you are above no one and below know one at the same time" - ra.

now, i was on the trip with daviv and other beautiful souls, and things have been very different since. the union of group consiousness will always be. and it shall be again here on this planet with people like you as well. bob and i are planning just that, for group to go to brazil (the amazon) with david's approval ofcourse. it would be great to hear yours and others response to such. you ever floated up a beautiful river that have trees over 150' tall canoping over your head and you don't see a soul aroud, just nature, that is pretty cool. i will be there on the 26th and i will post pictures when i get back. you talk flowing pure life around you!

stay tuned, as al pacino said when aked are you finished? hell no i'm (we) just gettin warmed up!

love you,
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Old 04-15-2007, 04:24 PM   #4
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brazil sounds great,but it just might be too rich for my blood. if there is ever a poor mans tour, then sign me up. i think it would be great to meet david as well as other people in the group.
i will stay tuned.
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:48 PM   #5
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dear friend,

when i gat back i will have all of the costs calculated. this is about you and david and the world. i am going to build in proceeds for david alone. i will not and do not want to make a dollar. in fact i plan on making a donation to david just to be there (which is for you, that will save money for all) but i do want david to have the proceeds not travel agencies and corporations; furthermore i will use every tactic to make costs as low as possible (that means pulling a few strings from my partners that know the owners). that does not matter, what does is that the more that attend, the less it will cost. is a vehicle and a tool, will and flowing with the greater will allows that to manifest. put your mind where your heart is, if balanced it will flow.

love nelson, and stay tuned - good things will happen, you will see!
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:16 AM   #6
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i agree with megan, i would definitely love to go on a trip wth you all and meet you! if there's a poor people's trip sign me up!:d
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:18 PM   #7
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i think that would be a spectacular place to have a retreat/seminar. there are no cars, everything is either horses or bicycles (or walking!) and 80% of the island is a michigan state park. there are so many options it's not even funny. i think if dw & others would do it, it could easily become an annual event....... it's that unique and that special!

~ thomas
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:43 PM   #8
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are you intending to cross over to the equadorian side of the amazon, bolivian side, or simply stay put in brazil? how long roughly are you intending the trip to be? i know you are in the investigatory stage of this, so if you don't know yet that's ok. just curious.

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Old 04-16-2007, 07:21 PM   #9
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i think that would be a spectacular place to have a retreat/seminar. there are no cars, everything is either horses or bicycles (or walking!) and 80% of the island is a michigan state park. there are so many options it's not even funny. i think if dw & others would do it, it could easily become an annual event....... it's that unique and that special!

~ thomas
mackinaw island, indeed. yes, thomas, there's no doubting that the location where christopher reeves' film, "somewhere in time" was done would be an absolutely awesome place to hold a confrence, take a vacation, do a weekend gig, plan a day-trip, or just to stroll over and hang-out on perhaps one of the biggest porches on the planet. and, this ole rocker could drive there in about four to five hours, depending on what music was playing. now i remember why i included that third question. indeed, and i have so many wonderful memories of that place, both growing up, in my formative years, as well as later on. yo!, dw, ya got your "ears" on?

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Old 04-16-2007, 11:28 PM   #10
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dear charran,

the answer would be no as to crossing over to the ecuadorian or bolivian side. you would think that they are fairly close to one another, on the contrary when you look at a map of brazil it slightly smaller than the 48 contiguois states and the amazon is the largest province. as i said before, i will traveling there on the 26th. it will probably take me a couple of weeks or so to make formal arrangements for costs, pics, david's ok, etc.
my goal is to have the presentation done by mid may. announce it by june. where ever we end up going is ok, but most importantly it is up to david. i am just doing the leg work to find out its viability and affordability. i realize peoples concerns on their budget, so i am trying to make it affordable for as many as possible to attend.

thanks, and i will let you know.
nelson

p.s. : bob - please go to timeout and write 1000 times: "mackinaw is cold even in july", just kiddin' sounds like a great idea!
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:49 PM   #11
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my goal is to have the presentation done by mid may. announce it by june. where ever we end up going is ok, but most importantly it is up to david. i don't want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm . but, these cruises are extremely draining for david. he puts much effort and time into his contributions so that people on the trips "get their money's worth". i think i would wait to see whether he is available, what with his book and various writings, the movie and radio appearances etc. chris
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:55 AM   #12
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dear chris and group,

i am sorry to seem so ambitious and forward. that is my nature (with no excuse) i shall be silent in my ventures of persuing such. i always said that it is not my decision, only a presentation to david. at any rate what shall be shall be. i will still use a couple of my days, time and money; in my blind faith. no promises, only hope and faith - what else ya got in life?

thanks chris, not demanding, (just taking a step forward with risk and money being spent because i choose to beleive) only asking!
with humbleness, nelson
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:07 AM   #13
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actually, we are talking about doing another trip. i don't do them completely for free and they are a decent, not great, source of income.

however, the problem was that when we tried to do one to the canadian rockies, we had a dearth of interest. not enough people signed up for us to be able to pay for the reservations, so we had to cancel.

it seems that a key to success in these ventures is to go for a destination that is popular, safe and secure. after all, you know that falling canadian maple leaves are like ninja throwing stars, for god's sake. you've gotta watch those folks... yaah, ey?

(feel free to throw the gold kind at me, though, as i'm a collector.)

we also lost a lot of people on our last cruise in the caribbean thanks to hurricane wilma, and though i enjoyed the trip greatly, from a financial perspective my 'cut' was so modest that it was almost pro-bono, once you factor in the time and energy involved in going.

for this reason, kevin and i are looking at a stay, not a cruise, in hawaii. two hotels, two fantastic tropical locations, solitude and no controlling schedules or tour guides we have to wrestle with... freedom to explore on your own.

there you're still in the us, you don't need to mess with passports, immigration, customs and possible security issues, and we can do deeper personal work, rather than be distracted by the decidedly unseemly side of americana in cruise-ship consumption mode.

i may still take nelson up on his offer for a more private soiree' in the amazon, if i can have some space and a private room while i'm there, but i honestly don't know if it would sell enough to make it worth doing it as a publicly-offered event. we may be able to organize a smaller "reunion" event if desired, so the group is a more manageable size.

either way, each day i am gone increases the complexity -- but once we've sold the film i should be better able to figure out when i can go and when i need to be in la.

hawaii, on the other hand, will probably be just fine. this time we're going to keep excursions to a minimum so we can really focus on process. everyone here who's been on a previous trip probably had the same feeling -- too much to do, not enough time to talk. i'll make sure that we work the film schedule around whatever dates i choose. since i'm not directing, line producing or signing checks, i won't need to be there all the time.

such trips are draining for me because of the excess social interaction. my needs for contact and release end up being heavily over-balanced toward the contact side in such situations. no matter who you are, 'engulfment' can kick in if you're center stage too long.

however, if i did not have a busy schedule of dates we had to hit, giving me time to retreat and be in solitude, then we're far more likely to have the best presentation when i do speak and interact with others.

we're expecting to get dates for hawaii soon... so i'll keep you posted!

- david
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:54 AM   #14
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i don't want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm . but, these cruises are extremely draining for david. he puts much effort and time into his contributions so that people on the trips "get their money's worth". i think i would wait to see whether he is available, what with his book and various writings, the movie and radio appearances etc. chris
hey chris, and hello again, to david and friends,

it would be good for you to understand now, at this point ,that there are at least three people out here who indeed have intimate first-hand awareness of just how draining it can be for our young friend david, following one of these events.

if you will recall mention of a story referenced recently, called "ol blue and air force one," and as nelson's having difficulty finding his copy, as am i, here's my side of the story.

when the ship arrived back in ft. lauderdale, i had already arranged a ride with nelson back to my car, as his old, blue chevy pick-up truck was in the marina garage. david. along with eric, were on their own as far as finding transportation to the lauderdale airport. nelson saw something that no-one else could, that here was a no-b.s. need to apply some of that sto stuff that many only read about.

it was truely my honor, to be of assistance in hauling the guys and all their equipment to the airport; by-passing all of the annoying, over-crowded , public conveyances, and yes- he was absolutely showing signs of fatigue.

with nelson driving, and david and eric up front, (i got to ride on the spare tire, southern style) we were approaching the airport when i noticed activity in the cab behind me. turning around, i noticed everybody looking up, and there it was; air force one, coming in for a landing, right over our heads!
what they didn't notice, was me extending the flying-finger-of-dis-respect towards our "great disruptor.," king georgeii .

so there ya have it; another perspective to ponder, and perhaps such querrys could be better done on the pm side of this, because moderating the moderator in public is taking away from the team effort that seems to be evolving here, and i'm not going to appoligise for not knowing how to work the quote thing, but i will ask my good buddy nelson to show me how sometime. carry on, my wayword sons...

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Old 04-17-2007, 02:57 PM   #15
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brazil would be an amazing and incredible trip. i have always wanted to go to hawaii as well. can we go when it's pineapple and mango season? either way i had better start working on getting a passport since i'm one of those crazy canucks!!
too bad i wasn't part of this group when you were thinking of going to the canadian rockies,since i lived in lake louise for 25 years until 2 years ago.
i could have put someone up in my spare room and even been a hiking guide.
i will stay tuned for further information on any trips.
take care,
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:58 PM   #16
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hey all -

in my "vision" of the near future, spiritual centers, where all are welcome, will spring up around the country and the world. at these centers people from all walks of life will gather and focus their positive energy. no logistics here, just a broad spectrum concept of individuals traveling and meeting, discussing and sharing, bonding under the umbrella of love. much easier said than done...

being "new" to this "lifestyle", i feel drawn to get out there and spread forth love. this is something that i try to do each and every day in my normal life. while it would be ideal to travel somewhere fantastic and meet up with ya'll physically, its probably not going to happen, for me anyway. therefore, i'm trying really hard to connect "metaphysically" to members of the forum, through meditation. quite a daunting task...

so, although i'd love the opportunity to meet ya'll in person at one "large event", maybe it would be better to have more small "regional" events? this way, everyone will have options, and if david and co. want to join us (physically), great.

if anyone wants to "organize" in the southeast, lets get the ball rollin! :d

asheville, nc is typically referred to as "the new age mecca", and this area has a relatively high percentage of "spiritual people"...
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:28 PM   #17
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hi nelson

i think this is an amazing idea, i am definitely keen on any sort of learn/teaching journey in this environment.

i have recently spent 6 wks in the labi jungle in brunei, so if i can be of any service in a practical sense in advising on jungle living etc... i will humbly be of service.

love & light

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Old 04-18-2007, 12:20 AM   #18
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just wanted say,your thought is positve it really does not matte where, when, who. it matters thought from heart.
good man nelson
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:24 AM   #19
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dear dc forum folks,

it is with no adieu that i wish to announce that someone has finally made a decision about real-world people-pow-wows! there is to be a gathering on mackinac island, on first or second weekend of august, extending from friday through sunday, the grand hotel being the preffered accomidation, but there are several other fine hotels on the island, they just don't have the biggest porch in the world! and speaking of the world, from an energy perspective, we can become so much more powerful as a group when we come together face to face, from time to time, to really know what beautiful souls exist on the other end of these keyboards.

the scheduled activities will include lots of laughing, space-sharing, bicycle-riding-(no motor vehicles allowed), golf if you wish, and eating lots of food & fudge & stuff. there will be no scheduled or compensated speakers, but a meeting room will be provided, and considering this group, the podium will not be a lonely place.

this is the on-the-cheap kind of event where nothing else is expected out-of-pocket, other than your own choice of transportation, and your own choice of room and board. car-pooling is allowed, and encouraged. consider it as a summer vacation, with a bunch of friends, in a beautiful location.

so,well get out the final target weekend and more details by no later than this monday, the 23rd, and in the meantime, go surf it out for yourself.

looking forward to being in your space.

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Old 04-20-2007, 06:53 PM   #20
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mackinaw island, indeed. yes, thomas, there's no doubting that the location where christopher reeves' film, "somewhere in time" was done would be an absolutely awesome place to hold a confrence, take a vacation, do a weekend gig, plan a day-trip, or just to stroll over and hang-out on perhaps one of the biggest porches on the planet. and, this ole rocker could drive there in about four to five hours, depending on what music was playing. now i remember why i included that third question. indeed, and i have so many wonderful memories of that place, both growing up, in my formative years, as well as later on. yo!, dw, ya got your "ears" on?

bob
strange....i just saw a program about mackinaw bridge and island last night on the history channel "modern marvels" show and told my hubby "wow! let's go there this summer."
http://info.detnews.com/history/stor...gory=locations

also, the show featured the blue ridge parkway which in the fall is absolutely gorgeous.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/lo..._parkway.shtml
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