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Old 04-07-2007, 12:10 AM   #1
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how do you go about your daily life knowing the truth? i mean is it difficult to watch the news and know that it is irrelevant to the truth. as i hear russia threatens to aim nukes at europe. all i can do is shake my head in a dee, dee, dee manor. i have always found it hard to enjoy many a movie since i spend so much time, seeing the cuts and camera angles and just bad editing. needless to say, television has no entertainment value for me, other then a night light. i have never enjoyed movies which speak to the pain body of the self. guess what i’m asking is: do you or do you not find it difficult to let others know what you know, without sounding like the guy on the corner with the sign: “the end is near!!!” as you may have guessed, my friends expect this kind of behavior from me and many of them see the truth as an example of the synchronicity i live in. have you any suggestions as to how one does other then have sympathy for those who don’t know? also, i would be interested in a guess as to what percent of the people, at this time, on this planet will ascend knowing the truth. this percentage does not include those of who will ascend in the truly christ given path to follow.
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Old 04-07-2007, 02:09 AM   #2
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billy, i think that a great many people have, on some level of consciousness, an inkling that something huge is going on. some of the more spiritually minded people i know attempt to fathom what's happening by examining themselves on the level of inner knowing, perhaps against the backdrop of the spiritual/religious heritage they have been raised or immersed in. others more materially minded, or politically minded, or scientifically minded, etc, examine what's going on in the world based on their respective experience, or their take on reality.

i find that in talking to people of all stripes, i must modulate what i discuss with them as a function of my perceived assessment of their level of understanding. issues that i will raise with one person i will not raise with another; i don't want to blow anyone's sense of reality. but i find if i listen with my inner ears to another, i can always give them something valuable, without coming off as some streetcorner messiah.

i have always had a special knack for this, and the trick to doing it is to always see the other as self, or to love unconditionally. this allows one to intuitively know what to say in a conversation. true compassion and love for the other self with a sincere desire to be of service creates a direct link between self, other self, and spirit. i think of this as my personal ministry, even if the conversation doesn't go beyond something as mundane as what i paid for apples at the supermarket today. your motivation must never be about displaying your own perceived level of attainment, it must always be about finding something for the other person, tailormade just for them.

to me, the definition of karma is that, as creators in our own right, we are bound by law to experience everything that we create. therefore, it is not surprising to me to find that i am, with increasing frequency, encountering people who know just how to treat me, gently and with discrimination, to offerings of their own understanding, and to give me what i need to awaken a little bit more. for example, i have recently entered a meditation circle led by a wonderfully gifted shaman by the name of mary lucas who has really opened my eyes to the value of looking within for my own true wisdom. as much beauty and illumination is available in books, or churches, at this site, and other places, it doesn't measure up to what you can find within yourself.

so as we all want to be loved and appreciated, accomplish this by truly, actively loving others for their own sake.

with love, mark
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Old 04-07-2007, 03:55 AM   #3
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my brother asked me once why i am constantly reading spiritual books and constantly seem to be searching for answers and my response was that with each little nugget of truth/wisdom that i learn makes life a little lighter and easier to live. people ask me why i always seem happy and peaceful and it is because i know the truth and that there is nothing to be afraid of or to worry about because we will always be ok and taken care of. life is to be enjoyed because there is plenty of everything to go around for everyone.

i have gotten many a strange looks from people for my "strange" philosophies but the great thing about living in today's day and age is that many of these miracles and things are being understood and proven scientifically. when someone looks at me like i am crazy i always refer them to a documentary called "what the bleep do we know!?" which gives a basic review of how quantum physicists are proving that all really is just vibrations and light and how your mind controls your reality. through "string theory" physicists have agreed that there are other dimensions, so, most people can not argue with me after i explain to them that it is no longer just spirituality but it is also science! science and spirituality are coming together!!!!!

nice reply markm.
take it easy, vex
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:58 AM   #4
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guess what i’m asking is: do you or do you not find it difficult to let others know what you know, without sounding like the guy on the corner with the sign: “the end is near!!!” as you may have guessed, my friends expect this kind of behavior from me and many of them see the truth as an example of the synchronicity i live in. have you any suggestions as to how one does other then have sympathy for those who don’t know? also, i would be interested in a guess as to what percent of the people, at this time, on this planet will ascend knowing the truth. this percentage does not include those of who will ascend in the truly christ given path to follow.
hi vexstar...
letting others know what i feel and know sounds more like a "rightside up flip in a blink" into a beauty we can only imagine the wonder and freshness of.
sooooo...i suppose it sounds much more like an amazing beginning and the opposite of "the end is near".

for instance...if i explain how i personally see and feel what is going on and what is coming to someone in front of me in my life that has asked and has chosen to listen...it goes something like this in my own words:

"we are on an ascending trail on a beautiful mountainside. that trail was violently washed away in front of us but a new and higher path was formed by those of us on the path that would not give up or give in and we chose with combined intent and effort to tread a new path of ascension on that mountainside no matter what and no matter how. we are now at a point on the path where we are just now coming above the treetops and about to turn a corner on the mountain trail into a beautiful light we can sense and see ahead. as we make that turn together the most beautiful scenery over the ocean appears that we have never, ever experienced in the way we are experiencing it. it is simply a new born babe of wondrous beauty to us. what is newly unique and exciting is that we can look far across the ocean and "instantly" focus on the beautiful forest and plant life far on the distant land as though it were right in front of us and we can touch and smell it simply by wishing so...and we can be both on the mountainside and across the ocean at the same time if we choose. we find that we can see each others thoughts and feel each others feelings with a love stronger then we could ever imagine. those with thoughts and feelings out of sync with these happenings will either change in an instant and embrace it all or choose to wander away on another path."

i have opened doors of smiling hearts many times sharing in this manner...
so in this manner i will continue : )
hope it helps a bit !

as far as the percentage that will ascend...i personally feel it will be a 1/3-2/3 split either way... but i do hope that 2/3 will be the leaning of those that see and embrace our ascension! the more the merrier and that is what i envision with my intent in thought and purpose in front of me in the now.
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:45 PM   #5
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my brother asked me once why i am constantly reading spiritual books and constantly seem to be searching for answers and my response was that with each little nugget of truth/wisdom that i learn makes life a little lighter and easier to live. people ask me why i always seem happy and peaceful and it is because i know the truth and that there is nothing to be afraid of or to worry about because we will always be ok and taken care of. life is to be enjoyed because there is plenty of everything to go around for everyone.

i have gotten many a strange looks from people for my "strange" philosophies but the great thing about living in today's day and age is that many of these miracles and things are being understood and proven scientifically. when someone looks at me like i am crazy i always refer them to a documentary called "what the bleep do we know!?" which gives a basic review of how quantum physicists are proving that all really is just vibrations and light and how your mind controls your reality. through "string theory" physicists have agreed that there are other dimensions, so, most people can not argue with me after i explain to them that it is no longer just spirituality but it is also science! science and spirituality are coming together!!!!!

nice reply markm.
take it easy, vex
heh... what the bleep is possibly a good starting point but is filled to the rim with what any mainstreamer would call "pseudo-science" and so is a bad reference point in my opinion. it may be more effective to refer people to primary material such as the plant consciousness eeg experiments etc. also, unfortunately, bleep's story is really pretty pathetic and serves as a springboard for critically-minded persons to dismiss the whole subject. had i not gone into the movie with a background knowledge, i would easily have torn the subject matter apart as a stand-alone source.

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Old 05-06-2007, 11:33 PM   #6
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i must start by saying i am proud to be apart of the, as of this morning, the 502 club. excuse me for coming in ready to butt a head or two to get my point across, the point is; i've seen a view of the one and i'd like to share it. so many so called enlightened boards just don't seem to get and or understand my inflective, reflective version of what i see. the amazing thing about stumbling onto your boards, ah humm!!! forum, was that i did find the postings of such enlightened beings which would know exactly what i meant by traveling through your sun to get here. which is exactly what i did. way, way beyond my book, is a puzzle which has all of its pieces in place and is on display as the person people see before them. it is just at the moment i am a bit choked up over the fact that i have truly connected with fellow travelers, with which i will start my eternal with. perhaps just because we are on the same frequency. this site is the outlet and/or reservoir of what i know to be true. i spend many an hour in meditation as a certain tibetan monk teaches. at work, i meditate on the high of how blessed i am to just get to play with the machinery or toys there, depending where my head is at. meditating during breaks and lunch, then keep in touch with the flow of this group, i could be tearing up over my keyboard to the point of uselessness. but i move on doing even more meditating and just completely vibrating at frequencies of bliss.

one of my favorite chants to the all of the one is, "what a long strange trip it's been!" this is my own little prayer in thanks of getting me to this point. which in my wildest dreams, i believed i could never reach, with air in my lungs. so i may inhale gently, the thanks and grace for being in touch with a few who do make a difference in how our mother earth blossoms.


i gotta do it!!!

just remember, the only reason you returned to 3d was so you could be on "the cosmic reality show." (or as we like to call it in the know: tcrs) we vibrate on frequncies that are viewed by the fourh dimemsion of vibrational entities. they in turn are being watched, watching us...
the only reason we come back is to be a hit on the show that those we left behind are watching, as well as those that have passed ahead of us. we also keep coming back just for the death rush, a cosmic orgasm to say the least. the goal is to become a "galaxy show" viewed by others of the like.

so there you have it. be the star of your television (definition: distant vision) show,
whom all of those connected to your so called hive are watching:

"the live earth viewing of the now."

(i suggested other names but was overruled. lol)

so far, the scripting of my score, special effects and adventure filled episodes of my life, have me raked in the top 502 most viewed series, we call "life".

lol!!!
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Old 05-07-2007, 03:10 AM   #7
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i must admit, billy, i'm a bit nonplussed after reading what you just wrote about the cosmic reality game show because just a couple of hours ago (possibly about the time you were writing this) i was thinking about a conversation i was having with a friend last night wherein i was describing an inner vision i was having at that moment where it occurred to me that what is happening on this planet, right here and now, is such a huge cosmic event that it is no doubt being watched with great interest by untold numbers of beings throughout the galaxy and maybe beyond. i likened it to a reality tv show in which the players go through their various trials as we watch to see who does what. i actually likened us to stars on the little stage of earth, perhaps each of us famous in our own right as multitudes hang on our every move.

this was just a momentary musing for me last night, lasting only a few seconds of time, but it revisited itself to me just as you were posting your "cosmic reality show" bit! i found this extremely synchronous, especially as we both posted on the "synchronicity" thread just a few days ago.

just had to share that!

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Old 05-07-2007, 04:44 AM   #8
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dab, what you wrote was so, so, beautiful, and inspires and fills me with renewed desire to be of service.

please keep up the posts!

love, mark
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:37 AM   #9
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guess what i’m asking is: do you or do you not find it difficult to let others know what you know, without sounding like the guy on the corner with the sign: “the end is near!!!” vexstar.
i have been, and am still, a bull in the china shop of truth, and my education into the subtleties of judging where, when, and to who i should try to disperse what i (currently believe that i) know about the "truth" of this time of the ending of cycles, and the beginning anew, still feels to be barely at its outset. what i have learned is that those who will hear nothing of it all will truly not hear anything of it at all. indeed, they may be entirely unable to hear any of it as it may well be inappropriate to their level of current evolution. in fact, that acts as a mighty balance to my desire to convey, to teach/learn. if a being is not currently needing the understandings many of us may share in this forum, and if i find myself forcefully presenting anyway, i usually end up in deep consideration about whether i am interfering in their free-will and evolution! that certainly is not my place, nor that which i wish to energetically incur. the law of confusion supports every entities right to choice of belief, or distortion i guess, as would best support their opportunity to evolve. i have a long-time friend and co-worker that i can no longer speak to about chem-trails. he will simply not accept the likely truth of them, and i was overbearing in my presentation (repeatedly). at one point i feel i might have been getting something through to him, but as i said, i've got "bull in the china-shop of truth" syndrome and that opportunity is busted like fine china. chances are i had no real opportunity of opening that person anyway, but still i had to question myself and my motives deeply in that instance, and many others.

so, to the hermetic wisdom of the kybalion: "when the ears of the student are ready to hear, then cometh the lips to fill them with wisdom" and in balance, "the lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of understanding."

i gotta go with markm and say the work is to increase our sensitivity and compassion toward what a person may need to know and/or be able to know. i sure would like to get the knack of it better myself. like bruce cockburn sings, "time moves fast, learning moves slo-o-ow."

blessings to you billy, may this be of benefit.

frank-o
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:24 AM   #10
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billy-star,

i think you need to come down off your mountain, and drink your milk, wah hah!

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Old 06-06-2007, 11:36 AM   #11
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bobby,

i'll have to finish eating my manna and fall from my cloud first.
but first i have to finish consulting with my production staff.
eat your wheaties and come on up.

that's just plain,
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:37 PM   #12
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markm,

a few people know of the word "mark" and what a role it has played in all conscoiusness of me. i thank you for just being moments behind me on this reflective vision of what i believe to be one point i must make to the group. this reality hit me when i was twenty-one and standing in front of phil collins. there are watchers, watching watchers, watching watchers....it is eternal and we are the next great graduating class from earth, as far we know. but mark i did want to say thanks for having the flow, out in the open and in great view. thanks for an entry in my log.
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:20 AM   #13
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what triggered my posting of this thread was a sense of wondering about how often i come into contact with a person, face to face as we look into each others eyes and/or are simply moved to return a smile from a stranger that has a sence of oneness in any form. or as most times, give that first warm impression and have it returned. i too have an ear for lyrics and hear them all quite clearly. this also causes me to wonder, perhaps a certain few of these artists are enlightened and are letting you know so, by some of the incredibly fitting lyrics of the here and now.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:10 PM   #14
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hey buddy,

when you came from the sun you may have made a wrong turn because it seems that you should have ended up on mars! it further seems that you wish to promote your self rather than keeping your eye on the ball. we here discuss issues revolving around the law of one, not the law of "i". sure we all have our view ponts and perspectives but again they revolve around a common understanding of oneness!

a dose of humility is a good thing.

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Old 07-06-2007, 07:19 PM   #15
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a huge cosmic event that it is no doubt being watched with great interest by untold numbers of beings throughout the galaxy and maybe beyond.
i've told people the same thing! hahaha

only my perception was like comparing it to the crowds showing up with blankets and food, getting ready to watch the combo fireworks/orchestra live performance. you know, the 1812 overture with fireworks show type thing.

i feel the beings are watching with great interest and that some of them see it as entertainment. perhaps maybe like us humans going back for more after a good cliffhanger in a movie or tv show. they just gotta see what happens next.

the ultimate "reality" show? lol
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Old 07-07-2007, 05:08 AM   #16
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as our cosmic viewing audience hangs on to every keystroke, as the betting windows have been closed.

what will be his response?

nelson,

eye on the ball, with all having view points revolving around common understanding of the oneness.
the only "i", that i am concerned with is:
i will ascend with the enlightened entities of this 3d world and not because i believe i know it all, but because i did care to share what i knew to be the truth and have a deep and compationate concern for enlightening others. i suppose there were other avenues with which i could have approached this group. perhaps one i might have taken would have been this one:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

hello,

my name is billy. after living a complete life of torture because i never seemed to fit in. i endured over half a century of unexplainable visions and incredible events in my life which lead others to believe i was insane. my only prayer was that someday i would wake up one morning and give thanks that i had finally arrived at the day, where i could say that it was all worth it and look forward to waking up the next morning. that day finally arrived some fourty six years after contemplating suicide at the age of six years old. with over half a dozen attempts since then.

that awakening and the giving of thanks came last year when i saw my life as that single image ra speaks of, hit me like a bolt of lightning. but at that time i knew nothing of ra. jesus was the only role model i paterned my life after. it all made sense to me and i saw that i was indeed headed for rapture. (christian dogma jargon. lol)

as per usual, the intensity of my synchronictic flow grew to overwhelming proportions, dwarfing even those that drove me to write a book. i by now knew through experience, it would in fact lead somewhere and not just to frustration. and it did. i recieved an e-mail from a complete stranger who had seen the icon of my web-site, while we were sitting at an internet poker table. his name is mark, he wrote me and we became good friends. he told me that he had gone through some quite intense episodes of synchronicity about five years back and when they ended, he became depressed and has never really been the same since. i believed through our friendship i could help him regain or rejoin this flow. he in turn sent me various channels on the net with which i might be interested. this included the atlantian children's law of one and about eight of david's sessions with ra.

the "jesus and the negative elite" session and the "meditation of the children of atlantis" became a drug to me. i went to sleep listening to them, i awoke listening to them. i had finally found all the tools needed to become whole. since i believe that the "universal will" of the meditation and 'the holy spirit" are one in the same, i now knew the secret. a fitting lyric in my life: "now that i know the secret there is nothing that i lack."

when ra disclosed that there were people who considered numbers on a clock or even a license plate revelations, i knew that this was god's way of re-enforcing my perception of reality as being correct. since i had written a book which had been driving me insane for fourteen years and all of ra's relevent points of reference were discribed in my book, i knew god had opened all of the doors of reality to me. i just had to relax, relax, relax and take my time to become whole.

when i listened to ra speak of extraterrestrial cooperation and the great works, which nailed me to a t and every other word meant for me to hear, i guess i became a little over zelous. i figured, "heck, here's a group of people who would really be interested in my experiences and would be interested to learn what i have to teach them," so my first post was, excerpts from my book hoping, yes indeed to get my book better known. so i started off on the wrong foot with chris. so i figured my little synchronistic episode at the gas station, "what would you have done?" was posted and i might get some feedback favorable to continuing on this path and it did indeed look promising. until conflict arose, then it took all of my effort and soul searching to remain a positive force in this forum. rather then simply walking away from a few jerks, as i believed, and never returning. but there was much, much more at stake here then hurt feelings. i needed to learn and needed to teach.

yes i said it!!!

i am here to teach.
i am here to learn.
and i am evidently here so others can see,
who thinks they know what humility is,
by putting down others.
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:15 AM   #17
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as our cosmic viewing audience hangs on to every keystroke, as the betting windows have been closed.

what will be his response? ...

i guess i became a little over zelous. i figured, "heck, here's a group of people who would really be interested in my experiences and would be interested to learn what i have to teach them," so my first post was, excerpts from my book hoping, yes indeed to get my book better known. dear billy / vexstar,

before open revolt breaks out on this forum, and it is about to, i wanted to say something publicly so as to quell the others and restore peace.

this is not a forum for people to come in and promote their material. right now your behavior is causing a lot of disruption to the point that i'm getting written private complaints about it from several members. this makes you unique among 500 members in a way that is causing us real administrative problems. there is an ongoing discussion about what we should do with you, up to and including unsubscribing you.

that's why i answered immediately as this post digs you even deeper. if you do want to be a spiritual teacher, you lead by example -- and now that all the negative feedback has gotten me to read this post of yours in particular, i must say i'm dismayed by the lack of humility you display.

even the tiniest shreds of the type of behavior you display here, if occurring in my character, have been smashed out of me by numerous initiations over the last 10 years. i do not hold anyone else to a standard higher than my own.

yet it is obvious from your own pain and sense of purpose about what you're doing that you don't see how it looks to the more balanced members of this forum.

so i started off on the wrong foot with chris. so i figured my little synchronistic episode at the gas station, "what would you have done?" was posted and i might get some feedback favorable to continuing on this path and it did indeed look promising. until conflict arose, then it took all of my effort and soul searching to remain a positive force in this forum. no one is asking you to be a positive or negative force on this forum. chris and the other moderators have earned my trust, so that whatever decisions they make are my decisions, as per the guidelines that have been established since 2000 when this all began.

given that you appear to have a fundamentalist christian background, be aware that everything you're saying here is clearly showing that you have not fully let go of the proselytizing. my most trusted associates are extremely frustrated with what you've been writing and that's as much as i need to know -- that coupled with this post, which is the first i've read.

rather then simply walking away from a few jerks, as i believed, and never returning. but there was much, much more at stake here then hurt feelings. i needed to learn and needed to teach. i am glad that my work has provided you with some missing pieces on your journey. that being said,

1. the moderators are not jerks. they are the extension of myself, and i have given them the ability to make my decisions for me.

2. there is nothing at stake.

3. nothing needs to be done on this forum.

the others are now free to comment as they see fit, and i'd rather have it be out in the open than in my private email, since i cannot afford the time for any one member to create this much administrative burden.

bear in mind that i must think about this from an administrative perspective. at this point, unsubscribing you may simply become a necessary time-saving gesture for the greater good.

the forum needs to run smoothly, and i have already told the moderators i am handing them full control and do not want to be involved in unsubscribe decisions like this, as it is causing drama i really do not have time to deal with.

we are not seeking or asking for apologies or hand-wringing mea culpas. only team players.

the way you can prove you get the point is by not defending nor promoting yourself.

peace be with you -

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Old 08-06-2007, 08:30 AM   #18
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i will learn and never rock the boat again. but i never, never considered or hinted that the moderators were the jerks i was refering to.

thank you knidly for your time and efforts.

billy
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:00 PM   #19
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dab, what you wrote was so, so, beautiful, and inspires and fills me with renewed desire to be of service.

please keep up the posts!

love, mark
what you shared makes me smile inside...
and i am "definitely" sure you can be of tremendous service : )

thank you,
mark

onward and upward with love!
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:31 PM   #20
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heh... what the bleep is possibly a good starting point but is filled to the rim with what any mainstreamer would call "pseudo-science" and so is a bad reference point in my opinion. it may be more effective to refer people to primary material such as the plant consciousness eeg experiments etc. also, unfortunately, bleep's story is really pretty pathetic and serves as a springboard for critically-minded persons to dismiss the whole subject. had i not gone into the movie with a background knowledge, i would easily have torn the subject matter apart as a stand-alone source.

-charles
i agree with you in that the video is not a cure-all for bridging the gap of the "original wound." i do about 99% listening/learning and %1 sharing but once in a while i find someone who might benefit from a very basic review of quantum physics. i am not as brilliant as einstein and would never claim to be but it dosen't take einstein to understand the basic concepts and see that scientists are the mystics of our generation. i would be very interested to hear more details about how you feel the video is a "bad reference point" so i can be on the same level on this. thanks in advance. cheers bro!
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