[SaraKonradtt]

hi,
I have been wondering in the astral form you can go forward and backwards through time but does the astral world hold the key to physical time travel.
when in the astral form would it be possible to see the method that people use may use to travel through time physically (time gate, time machine etc) and then from knowing the method you could recreate it here and know.

that is if physical time travel is possible

[VemyhemiHef]

hi,

Hi David.

I have been wondering in the astral form you can go forward and backwards through time I have gone to an alternate past, and a little bit into the future (only days or hours), so I'd be comfortable saying that you can, with some constraints.
but does the astral world hold the key to physical time travel. I think you answered the question yourself: that is if physical time travel is possible when in the astral form would it be possible to see the method that people use may use to travel through time physically (time gate, time machine etc) and then from knowing the method you could recreate it here and know. That may be the first problem, provided it's possible to do- most of what you see in the astral is heavily influenced with subjective interpretation, so even if there is a machine that can do it and you get to see it (or better, have it explained to you) remembering it 'objectively' and turning it into usable information may be a whole 'nother ball of wax.
One of the tricky things about info in the astral is that it is very difficult to read, look at numbers and keeping them in memory long enough to write them down is very difficult to do. Just ask any experienced astral traveler.

[SaraKonradtt]

i know that it would be incredibly difficult to do but once you know the correct method building a time machine would be easier (still extremely difficult) because you know where to begin with designing one.

if anyone would like to help me test this theory let pm me and we can talk

[PemiaGefe]

have you guys ever heard about John Titor? He was apparently a time travelor from 2035. I don't think his story has been debunked yet. I believe him, but I could just be gullable.

peace

-natalie

[SaraKonradtt]

i have heard of the john titor story and thats one of the things that has sparked up my interest in time travel but i have always had an interest in time travel i would love to know if it was even possible.
but still if anyone wants to help me try and solve the big time travel mystery let me know.

[klubneras]

John Titor's "predictions", which would have been "history" to an actual time traveler, have pretty much all proven to be wrong (other than his claim that there would be "civil unrest" around the 2004 elections, but it was nothing that led to civil war in 200.

Wikipedia has good information on his story, as well as some links to other interesting things about the case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

(Sorry to be a wet blanket. I've actually studied the John Titor thing pretty closely and finally had to dismiss it as an interesting kind of performance art, and not a real time traveler. Besides, why would a real time traveler post to Usenet? Wouldn't he know that Usenet would be dying by the time he started posting to it?)

[jessyhalm]

Debunking John Titor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpMYq...eature=related

[Niiinioa]

Well if the method to technologically travel through time exists, I have a feeling it would be beyond the capabilities of what we have available right now to build (though I can't rule out any government black projects as some people estimate these could be as much as 100 years ahead of whats publically available, but even then its unlikely) I do believe however it may be possible to travel through time if one learns the ability to influence reality with their mind, but even then it may not be true time travel, all you may be doing is jumping into an alternate timeline while your original remains unchanged.

I experienced one physical time anomaly some years ago. I was speeding over to college campus and passed one really slow guy in a pick up truck on the side of the road, his truck was full of junk and was just pettering along well below the speed limit. Then a couple miles later I passed the exact same guy in the exact same truck. So what happened here? Did this guy jump ahead in time, or maybe I'm the one who did, and if so does that mean one of us now exists in a slightly different timeline then before? Of course if that were the case, this would beg the question of why there isn't two of me here so that might not be whats going on.

[VemyhemiHef]

The idea of time dilation/compression sounds more like it in that instance, IMO.

[jessyhalm]

So what happened here? Did this guy jump ahead in time, or maybe I'm the one who did, and if so does that mean one of us now exists in a slightly different timeline then before? Are you certain it wasn't precognition?

[Niiinioa]

Are you certain it wasn't precognition? While I have had precognition in the past, I have never had visual precognition to my knowledge, it's always been with a feeling and it seems odd that if this was the only known instance of visual precognition I had that it would be about something that trivial. Whenever I have had precognition, it's almost always been something that was at least a little important to me.

[jessyhalm]

Okay, well I get precognition on trivial as well as serious stuff, so I had to ask.

[Niiinioa]

Well I get it on trivial things too, what I meant was its usually something I can relate to for trivial its usually me knowing when I will receive a package in the mail ive been waiting for. But some guy I'm passing on the road doesnt really matter at all to me. so if it was visual precognition, it just seems like it would be odd the only instance I had with it would be something like that, though anythings possible so I can't really rule anything out either.

[gogFloark]

Precognition is fairly common. Where I work in nursing we all know to pay attention to that nudge that someone's going to take a bad turn. It happens usually before anything shows up in the bloodwork or any symptoms appear which can be a source of irritation when trying to get something done to prevent it.

[PRengine]

Hi, Defactron .

My inclination would be that neither truck actually 'existed' but were invasions from the astral - dream stuff. As some know here, I consider the waking life just another dream anyway and because of this I have to question much that I experience in 'RL' in terms of its origination.

Were it a dream that you were relating, there'd be no confusion - no question as to 'why' it appeared twice. My guess is that students are so mentally stimulated (I remember) that it would not be uncommon for dream material to invade the RW psychological life of the student.

Just my thoughts....

[Niiinioa]

My inclination would be that neither truck actually 'existed' but were invasions from the astral - dream stuff. As some know here, I consider the waking life just another dream anyway and because of this I have to question much that I experience in 'RL' in terms of its origination. Yeah I think of the physical world as being just a really realisitc dream as well which is why sometimes people and other entities can do things that seem impossible. I dunno if thatps what this guy was but I guess thatps possible too.

Where I work in nursing we all know to pay attention to that nudge that someone's going to take a bad turn. It happens usually before anything shows up in the bloodwork or any symptoms appear which can be a source of irritation when trying to get something done to prevent it. Yeah thats the sort of precognition I get, its never been visual with me to my knowledge

[VemyhemiHef]

If you get this, I would tell both of you to learn to 'feel the flavor' of this 'knowing' in your meditations. It'll help later when you start experiencing claivoyance, clairaudience and clairsentience. Especially with clairaudience, it'll teach you to learn the difference between genuine precognition and just subconscious or extraneous information.