Can remote viewing be interfered with?
 

Hi,

I'm not sure if my question fits in this forum but it probably does.

For a few years I've been getting short "movies" (not always, sometimes I see a still image instead) in my mind's eye, which lasts for several seconds at a time, which I suspect is remote viewing. The "movies" and images were extremely vivid. This has been completely spontaneous, and it only happens occasionally when I'm in a relaxed state of mind. I've never tried to do this deliberately.

These short "movies" were mostly centred on a man I care for. Funnily enough, some of these "movies" showed him having sex or doing sexual things with a variety of women, both young and middle-aged. Seeing him doing these things did not affect me at all, I didn't feel any jealousy nor did I feel aroused. I merely observed. I have never told this man what I've observed him doing, and I doubt the subject will ever come up in conversation. On other occasions I've seen him having a back massage by a masseuse, I've seen him walking down some steps in town, and I've seen him in a garden during the summer with his shirt off as well as seeing him doing normal stuff at other times.

This man is married with two grown up daughters. I have no idea how his marriage is run, whether or not it's an "open" marriage where he's able to sleep with other women. None of the women I observed were his wife.

Since the summer of 2007, I have had a stubborn neg attachment, and I'm wondering if the neg would be capable of triggering these "movies" and images? If so, would he be able to interfere with what I see? Could it be that this man was really having sex with his wife but the neg caused me to see a different woman in bed with him instead? And why would I see this man having sex in the first place? I have a little theory that the neg caused me to remote view this guy having sex because of my own feelings for him, hoping that I would react with jealousy and anger so that he could feed off the negative energy. In your opinion, is this possible?

I have been told by a few mediums in the past that there is a deep link between me and this man.

Please tell me what you think. This has been bothering me for quite some time. I've posted this on RoE too just to see what the folks over there think of this.

There's a few possibilities- one is simply that you are observing his fantasies as he has sex with his wife, or that he indeed is having sex with other women while married. I don't know if a neg has to be involved at all, since you do have feelings for him (as what I get from your post). I would suspect neg involvement if these visions cause you to become upset (or needy for him) but if you're a disinterested observer, then I tend to think that it's your subconscious providing you with the motivation to point 'over there'. He might also be thinking of you, causing you to hone in on him also- lots of possibilities, or combinations of either.

It seems to me like if it's been bothering you for some time that you care for him a lot. Would you say you're in love with him? Or does it just bother you in the sense that it's annoying and you want the "movies" to stop?

Well, after a while I stopped seeing this man having sex with other women or performing sexual acts. This was after I'd taunted the neg saying that it wasn't working the way he had hoped it would, meaning I wasn't getting angry or jealous. So that alone makes me think the neg was behind it. The reason why I didn't get angry or jealous is because I'd learned how to control these aspects of my ego. My guess is that the neg hoped to undo the work I'd done on myself in order to keep me from progressing, and to feed on the negativity anger and jealousy would have generated.

I wasn't a disinterested observer, I was just an observer, although I did feel slight curiosity which is natural.

He may have been thinking of me at the other times (i.e. the "movies" where I've seen him doing ordinary stuff). I remember ages ago when I was relaxing in my living room, I suddenly felt a deep sadness which didn't originate from me, and I smelled a strong smell of wine briefly. I immediately sensed that it was to do with him.

It's only been bothering me because I suspect the neg was involved with the "movies" of this guy having sex. The actual contents of these "movies" did not bother me in the slightest. And I do care for him a lot.

Offhand I'd say if you suspect a Neg, don't communicate with it (i.e., by taunting it). I don't mean ignore its presence, or effects, but in my experience, communicating with Negs can serve as a foothold for them.

Have you tried asking yourself, your inner voice, Why am I seeing this? What am I supposed to learn here?

The second question is key. If a Neg is inducing the visions in any way, there isn't any lesson in the visions per se. We can evolve through our interactions with Negs, but Negs don't directly help us grow.

Also, does the man know that you care deeply for him? You might find that there's a shift in your visions if you change your relationship to him. If you think you're attracted to him, and want to have an affair with him, I'm not suggesting you try to have one. I'm just wondering if your feelings for him, because they're not fully expressed maybe, are creating a type of energy bridge between you.

Lastly, have you tried changing the pictures or visions? In other words, in the middle of one of these unwanted visions, have you said to yourself, I'd rather focus on this instead... Asserting seniority over your clairvoyance might help too.

One way that Negs work is through artificial synchronicity; that is, they create seemingly synchronistic experiences that we attach undue meaning to, thereby capturing our attention. Obviously you do feel for this man, and have some connection with him, but do you feel it's possible that you've convinced yourself that there's more meaning in the visions than there might be?

The neg has already got a foothold, and communication or non-communication has absolutely no effect. I know because I've tried both approaches.

I've asked myself that question numerous times and the only reasonable theory I came up with was the neg is behind these sex "movies" as I explained.

Exactly.

He knows I have feelings for him but at the moment I suspect he's misinterpreted them. So I'm writing a letter to him to set the record straight and hopefully that will help reassure him as well as helping myself to move on. But the "movies" of him having sex stopped as I've explained. I still get occasional glimpses of images of him or the occasional vision of him going about his everyday business, but these are nothing to do with the neg I am sure. I don't mind these "innocent" visions.

Well when I used to see him having sex, I've tried to "pull" away but it was very difficult. It felt like trying to rip myself away from a strong magnet. Other than that, no I just observed without judgement.

I've never attached any meaning to the "movies" of him having sex etc, other than the neg theory. I've wondered if he was in an "open" marriage, or if he was sleeping with other women behind his wife's back, and also if the neg was playing tricks. But I've never attached any meaning to these visions relating to the connection between us.

Okay, I see your situation a little differently now. I wasn't sure, at the beginning of the thread, how sure you were that a Neg was actually involved. And I did, in my responses, partly address the past, not the present.

The sex "movies" aren't happening anymore, but you're still bothered by this Neg? How is it affecting you? Why do you feel the Neg has a strong foothold?

Do you feel like the Neg is manipulating you through your (I'm conjecturing here) depression that you aren't with the man? When did you first suspect Neg involvement? Why did you suspect it? What did you feel?

Well it was just a theory about the neg involvement when I started this thread because I wasn't sure if negs could trigger visions. But now I know it's possible for negs to do that, I'm even more sure that the neg was behind the sex "movies".

The neg doesn't affect me as much as he used to but he still tries his hardest to influence me in my behaviour and in abstaining from doing normal everyday things. However, he still influences a lot of my thoughts and emotions. He has a strong foothold because he is still here despite numerous attempts to get rid of him since 2007. I have tried everything Robert Bruce has suggested with no success in getting him to leave. Robert's countermeasures worked by reducing the severity of the neg's attacks but never worked by getting rid of him. At the moment I'm just using affirmations and earthing in combination with a Q-Link as per Robert's advice. This approach is slowly weakening the neg and allowing me to live a more normal life, and hopefully the neg will be forced to leave when he's sufficiently weakened.

No. He used to do that. In fact I got so confused and desperate that I sought the advice from spirit through mediums about the situation many times, which has helped a lot. I first suspected neg involvement in 2007, if you'll read the link in my signature, you'll read about when I first discovered the neg attachment.

All right, I'm up to speed now.

The main issue now is that your daily living activities, and your thoughts and emotions, are being disrupted, right? The visions aren't actively bothering you now, but you wanted to know if they had been orchestrated or influenced by the Neg.

Overall, you don't feel that the Neg has very much to do with the man? You just think that the Neg exploited your attraction to and depression over the man?

When you say you're "earthing," what does that mean? You're "sleeping earthed"?

Something I've found especially helpful in throwing of negativity (whether it's inwardly sourced or coming from the outside) is spending a few hours barefoot in nature some place where there's a creek or river and strong sunlight. Simply being in nature can be incredibly grounding. Combining it with a little light meditation or chanting or singing is even more helpful.

Getting out of negative thoughtloops, or long deep depressions that have changed the chemistry of the body, can be so difficult; but, it doesn't need to be effortful. Negativity stays sometimes, or clings to us, because we resist it or judge it. Yet there's nothing wrong with the fact that you were depressed or disappointed in love. It doesn't mean you're defective or unspiritual.

Correct.

Correct.

Yes, I wrap myself from head to foot in Lame fabric which is connected to the radiator via a car jumper lead. The neg hates it and every time I go to bed it takes me hours to fall asleep because the neg screams, makes the bed vibrate a bit, touches the duvet and holds on to it, and tries to force me out of body every time I start to fall asleep. So I know the Lame fabric works (Robert suggested I use that) but I hope that in time the neg will stop attacking me at night time. Especially as I start my course at college in September and I can't afford to be awake half the night because of the neg's antics.

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

Thank you.

Gemma, there's also nothing wrong with you because you're having strange, frightening experiences. I'm sure you know that, but I felt like typing it anyway.

Do you have periods, or moments, of true, vivid, positive emotion? If you do (and I know you're not soliciting my advice) I'd suggest focusing on expanding those periods throughout the day. You may meet with resistance.

If you don't, I suggest a lifeline. A lifeline, to me, is anything that uplifts you and inspires you emotionally and spiritually whether it be a poem, a song, or a photograph.

My most-used lifeline is the poem Invictus by William Ernest Henley:

Out of the night that covers me.
black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
for my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance,
my head is bloody but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
looms but the horror of the shade.
And yet the menace of the years
find me, and shall fine me, unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
how charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate
I am the captain of my soul. I know that you're already doing affirmations and that's wonderful. I feel like poems and songs have a special capacity to positively charge us, though, because they speak in images -- and therefore, directly, to the soul. Also, because they rhyme, they're often easier to remember. Also, reciting poems and songs is fun, which engages the spirit too.

Remember that, no matter what you experience, there is inside you an ageless core of love, joy, peace, and unbounded enthusiasm for life. That part of you is inviolate and cannot be influenced or possessed -- it can be forgotten about, you can be distracted from it, but it cannot be harmed. Once I had a dream of being chased through a dark woods by black horses. I spontaneously became lucid and turned on my pursuers and shouted, "You cannot harm the True!" And my pursuers fled. I woke up. I didn't know that such conviction lived inside me, but it came out, and I try to remember it every day.

We all are on and off our spiritual paths, none of us are perfect or untroubled. Some of us are more troubled than others, but you needn't believe what the Neg tells you about yourself anymore than you need to believe what a blocked, spiteful person would project onto you.

I've been reading recently about Harriet Tubman -- her escape from slavery and the immensely daring, charitable work she did in the Underground Railroad in the US during the 1850s. She's an inspiration to me. She lived as a slave until she was almost 30 years old and then fled north with almost nothing but a scrap of paper listing the addresses of two friendly homes. She was said to have had dreams that helped her, and others, escape. What strikes me most about her, in all I've read, is how deeply she trusted herself, her God, the hope of justice and decency. It would be all too easy to deify her and say that she was an "old soul" or what not, but she was a woman. A five foot tall, scarred, skinny, black woman from Virginia of the 1800s who decided she deserved freedom and respect. One of her mottos was: "I can't die but once."

I never believe what the neg tells me about myself.

Thanks.

I'm curious, since I think this whole 'neg' thing is pretty disturbing, would you follow me to a place where negs cannot abide? If I told you I have a space ship waiting with places for only 40 people that is ready to leave, would you take a 'ticket'? But caution, this 'ship' is going to leave the sun and moon and the planets far behind; you'll never see Earth again and our Sun, if you're not careful (and you won‘t be), will become lost among the stars.

We're going to another star, but we'll never get there because Time and Space will lose any meaning. Beyond even the solar winds we will know nothing but the vacuum and emptiness of deep space. Would you come along?

You see, this is my song, my poem, my place I go where there is not even the slightest possibility of being disturbed. This is a place of unmitigated Joy and Lovingkindness. I've always wondered how others would meet with this guided meditation and because I have a suspicion it might freak a particular sort of person out, I’ve never ventured to share it with another person or yoga class.

How do you, anybody else, feel about it?

I'm curious, since I think this whole 'neg' thing is pretty disturbing, would you follow me to a place where negs cannot abide? If I told you I have a space ship waiting with places for only 40 people that is ready to leave, would you take a 'ticket'? But caution, this 'ship' is going to leave the sun and moon and the planets far behind; you'll never see Earth again and our Sun, if you're not careful (and you won‘t be), will become lost among the stars.

We're going to another star, but we'll never get there because Time and Space will lose any meaning. Beyond even the solar winds we will know nothing but the vacuum and emptiness of deep space. Would you come along?

You see, this is my song, my poem, my place I go where there is not even the slightest possibility of being disturbed. This is a place of unmitigated Joy and Lovingkindness. I've always wondered how others would meet with this guided meditation and because I have a suspicion it might freak a particular sort of person out, I’ve never ventured to share it with another person or yoga class.

How do you, anybody else, feel about it? I have gone way beyond feeling disturbed or afraid of the neg. So I don't feel the need to escape into a fantasy just to get away from the neg situation.

When I first discovered the neg attachment, I used to escape into a fantasy world, just to give me hope and it was also a coping mechanism. It's what kept me alive because I was suffering from severe depression at the time on top of the neg attachment. I remained in this fantasy world from the time I woke up to the time I fell asleep in between doing the necessary counter measures, looking up information and trying out different protection techniques (which proved fruitless). Eventually, I realised the neg wasn't going away and I needed to do more. So I attained a level of inner peace by working on the worst issues within me such as jealousy, anger, acceptance, etc. The neg still remained attached to me, but by working on myself in particularly on the fear I felt, I took away some of his power and he was unable to keep up the level of intensity of his attacks. The fortnightly attacks eventually tapered off.

These days, I am able to do more for myself on a day to day basis even though I still have some issues to take care of. The neg is now unable to attack me like he used to. I'm no longer afraid of the neg, nor am I afraid of what he could potentially do to me. I'm not afraid of anything he does do either. He has very little power over me but he is stubborn and refuses to leave, and is always trying to pull me back down to where I was before. I believe that all I need is deep healing in order to get this neg to leave.

The point is, it's all very well using mantras, poems, music meditation, fantasies etc to attain some level of inner peace, but it's temporary. When you return to the physical world, the neg is still there. So you are having to deal with it in the end. Permanent inner peace is attained through introspection, working on your issues and resolving things within yourself that hold you back. Nothing else will achieve this.

Sounds a lot like 3-D black.

3D black or meditation or whatever you want to call it, it's essentially a form of fantasising.

No, it's a state you enter when you meditate deeply enough to go to an astral locale. Sometimes you don't make it to the locale, and stay in '3D Black' or 'The Void'. If anything it's the anti-fantasy, because there is nothing there in that state. From it you can transition into a locale, but some people prefer not to.
Although I'm not sure if that's what E1B was talking about.

Do you mean like what Bruce Moen did at the TMI? If so then I can accept that. But when I say meditation, I'm talking about the kind that is used in relaxation, psychic circles and such like. These practices are based on a mix of fantasy and visualisation.

Yes, I mean like in projection. The principles (or description) is the same, but it's something that happens, not so much something we try to make happen. It's not as easy as it sounds either. But then again, I'm not sure if E1B uses the image as a device, or it's a 'place' he discovered while meditating.
BTW, here I don't mean 'guided experience' by meditation, just the focus you use to clear the mind, which can lead to an altered state, whether it's projection or not.

Wow, posts went up quick while I was thinking.

What? On the one hand you remote view about a love interest, and on the other you say you're not interested in fantasizing. Let me try another tack. Would you abandon anything and everything connected to your life here on Earth for another and Truer reality? No more neg, no more man, no more spiritual advisors and forums? Just wondering....

But if you would, there is a place some call a higher state of consciousness or a higher being or self, or the Kingdom, that is only a thought away. But it has one serious restriction - no luggage http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/icon_lol.gif

I'm not familiar with the 3-D black, but it sounds similar. At any rate, if it's just a 'fantacy' should we not participate? What do we have if we don't have our imagination? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...on_mrgreen.gif