[Podborodok]

hi, i am new and this is my first post. i am 80 pages into Astral Dynamics, and looking forward to the rest of it. anyways i am seeing these things, and nobody else has ever heard of it, i cant find anything online about it, and i did a search on this forum and didnt see anything. last night i was woken out of a deep sleep and watched a spider-looking thing, glowing purple, float away towards the wall. this is about the 6th time this has happened to me. last night was the first night, however, that the spider got to the wall and stopped for a couple of seconds, and then disappeared into the wall. this was following the experience i had 4 nights ago, where i truly believe i was in the middle of an out of body experience. i awoke again, suddenly, and out of a deep sleep. i watched a black spider with a white glow moving away from me, and i remember going up to it and putting my index finger through it, but, i also have a memory of watching the spider float away into the wall. two perspectives and two memories, but at the same time. let me describe the spiders more. they are usually about 8-10 inches wide, always with a colored glow, and they seem to wake me up out of deep sleeps. every time too, the spider is floating away from me, while its legs are moving. the first couple of times i just thought it was my imagination, or something like that, but then it kept happening. after the first 3, i started becoming aware. the 4th time i really studied the thing for the 5 or 6 seconds i watched it float away. the 5th time was when i touched the spider, and the 6th time was last night when it stopped for a couple of seconds. does anybody have any clue what these are? has anybody else ever heard of this or had it happen to you? any help is much appreciated. thanks for listening

[Biradallo]

Hey there, welcome to the forum. So, did you do a search for spider or for spider-like thing?
This seems like a good thread to start with. http://forums.astraldynamics.com/vie...ghlight=spider
I found 2 pages of search results when I searched for spider.

Good luck.

[XKAgustin]

Hi Jiduto,

Have you read Robert's tutorials? You will find a lot of information there. Your spiders are what Robert refers to as astral wildlife and they are very commonly seen. You might also consider looking up thought forms.
Adpedia

[Smittoh]

You said they woke you from deep sleep, yes? Where you aware of an ongoing or beginning nightmare? How is your sleep in general - disturbed or refreshing?

Oliver

[Podborodok]

You said they woke you from deep sleep, yes? Where you aware of an ongoing or beginning nightmare? How is your sleep in general - disturbed or refreshing?

Oliver

yes i only get about 5-6 hours of sleep a night, so when i lay down and fall asleep, its pretty deep sleep. its like i just wake up suddenly and open my eyes to see these glowing spiders floating away. the sleep is refreshing almost always. i dont have nightmares. and i dont remember dreaming before i wake up. the thing is that its only been spiders that i have seen, no other "wildlife" or anything else. so i thought maybe the spiders were something seperate

[obegeLype]

the thing is that its only been spiders that i have seen, no other "wildlife" or anything else. so i thought maybe the spiders were something seperate

I have a question that may sound strange. How did you feel about them when you saw them? Did you feel anything from them, or they felt completely emotionless, as if they were some sort of "astral machines"?

My first guess is that they were... well, not easy to explain it, but "energy constructs" would be the closest expression I can come up with. You can try to examine them the next time they wake you up. Just try focusing your intent on seeing their inner workings.

The only thing that resembled what you describe, that woke me up once, was a blob of light around 1 meter in diameter. I felt it presented a clear danger to myself. I actually jumped directly from sleep into full-blown OBE without even thinking about it. That's how abrupt was my "waking up" to danger.

It was definitely something alive, and from the feeling of it, I subconsciously concluded it was a human remote viewer, most probably working for someone.

That was the first and the last time I saw something like that. I gave the "blob" a good punch in the "face" when it menacingly moved towards me, and it just disappeared. I could still feel almost physical numbness in my right arm from the blow after I really woke up. I guess whoever it was never tried to pull such a stunt again.

I still have a feeling your spiders were energy constructs, a sort of scouts/probes for someone, but only you can verify what they really are.

Sometimes you can follow the link from them to their controllers, but be very careful if you try to do it. People (their "souls", or "astral bodies", or whatever) can easily get caught and imprisoned if they are not careful. That's something else I've also seen once. The prison, that is.

[saruxanset]

can these things hurt you and can u prevent yourself from seeing them? ive never had an OBE for precisely this reason , i dont want to see these things because i would be so freaked out id never sleep again . but back to the question can they hurt you? and can you prevent yourself from seeing them? are they negs ?

[Clielldub]

Depends on what color they are. Mine were black and nasty and causing nightmares.

After experimenting with sage and holy water, flooding the room with light, and protective canopies, I discovered the best, and one and only protection from spider and other negs is this:

Wave your index finger in a circle and say "Circle of protection be around me."

Srsly. That's it.