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Hi OBE Forum,

My OBE practice has been stagnating lately from lack of success so I decided I need to ask a few questions and interact some. The only successful OBEs I have had are spontaneous. I have never consciously induced an OBE to date.

I am hoping someone more experienced in these matters might be able to point out something I am missing. I follow the Mastering Astral Projection routine and have done the whole book. My exit attempts seem to end the same way each time with me trying with no exit sensations and eventually just feeling somehow exhausted.

Any suggestions? I'm out of ideas at this point...

Regards,
Tigerzen

[strollerssfsfs]

Need more info.
At what time of the day do you have your attempts?
Are you continuing your energy work?
Any exit symptoms,
Favorite exit techniques,
Do you:
pass out trying to exit
never get to that point
wake up trying to exit
wake up from fear.
get vivid hypnagogics? Noise?

This type of info would be most helpful.

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Need more info.

Sure. Here you go!
At what time of the day do you have your attempts?
My attempts are normally in the morning after waking.
Are you continuing your energy work?
I do primary and secondary center work every day.
Any exit symptoms,
None, unless you count the first attempt I made many years ago.
Favorite exit techniques,
Would have to say rope climbing.
Do you:
pass out trying to exit
Sometimes while trying to exit. Sometimes earlier in the process. Usually not at all.
never get to that point
Often i get to exit attempt part of process and try for a while with nothing happening and not passing out.
wake up trying to exit
A few times have had this happen while making an attempt in bed at night before sleep.
wake up from fear.
Haven't had this happen. At least not when waking up after an apparently unsuccessful OBE attempt.
get vivid hypnagogics? Noise?
I have had these happen, but during normal meditations outside of OBE attempts.

~Tigerzen

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Thanks for asking for more info, CFTraveler.

Just answering the questions alone has given me a few ideas at what is probably going on right now with my practice and where I need to focus.

Namaste,
Tigerzen

[DurryVony]

I have the same problem. It's really hard to get that deep. So, have you figured out what you're doing wrong? I'd appreciate if you'd share it with us, maby it'd help someone. =)

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I'll let you know if I figure it out.

Goodluck with your own attempts!

Don't forget your basics...
Treatise On Astral Projection: Part 3

~Tigerzen