[welihiedginly]

Hey everyone,

Basically i have been pretty successful in my OBE attempts in the past few months. Most times when i begin to have one it occurs when i wake up in the middle of the night and hear this really annoying buzzing/ringing sound. Sometimes i hear voices but ill get to that later.

Now heres where a few problems start, at first this sound (it is 90% of the time the same sound) was fairly frightening and and i would tone it out and wake up because i was kind of scared of it. So after a while i just went with the flow and concentrated on it pretty hard, it began to get louder and louder until i thought i couldnt take it anymore then BAM, it all went silent and i could float out of my body easy as pie. So i used this method for a few weeks and it worked fine most of the time until now.

Now, when i hear this sound i concentrate on it and allow it to grow until it gets really loud and then it gets pretty hazy. Either the sound slowly gets softer until i become pretty much fully awake, or it does the BAM thing and i try to float up but i still feel awake and with my physical body, i can usually feel myself floating a little or sitting up but then it just seems to fade away and i wake up.

The reason im posting this is because i just read that if you use these sounds so much that you can basically control them, they lose their purpose and dont work as well. So if anyone has any feedback/help or other related experiences please post them because this has been bothering me a lot recently.
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One more quick question. The other night i heard some astral voices or whatever they are (not sure). Some times i have used them the same way in which i used the buzzing sound, and other times i just wuss out and wake up. But this time i heard this one really creepy deep voice telling me to "Run Away.....Run Away". This totally freaked me out so i woke up and decided to call it a night.

If you have any help as to if that was actually another projector or just my imagination, i would greatly appreciate it.
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Last thing i swear.
It seems that the "OBE's" ive been having arent true OBE's. Whenever i make it out of my body its like i go straight into a lucid dream. Im not sure if this is my doing or not but is there any way i can get passed that and go into the RTZ or astral plane fairly easily?



Once again, any tips or help will not go unnoticed.

Sorry for the long post, im just a little troubled at the moment.

Thanks for your time,

DRO

[Smittoh]

Hello, DRO.

If the "BAM" happens and you find yourself in the physical body, it at least seems like you ended up remembering the body copy instead of the astral copy in the body/mind split. I don't know how to fix this, but Robert has a lot of advice in MAP on how to remember the astral memory and download it, these exercises could come in handy.

The astral voices you've heard sound similar to the "Dweller on the Threshold" phenomenon, see AD-Pedia. I had astral noises with laughter and mumbled conversations (not frightening), these things do manifest in many ways.

Take good care,
Oliver

[welihiedginly]

Where's everyone been lately??

these forums seem so dead.

sorry just curious