[VeniHemealm]

Its getting harder and harder for me to get into trance every time I try to accomplish OBE. So is there a method of self hypnosis I could use to help me out? Thanks!

[Ikrleprl]

There are self hyponsis mandalas and such, though I can't exactly remember a website. Perhaps try a google image of it.

I sense a little frustration in your post (don't know if thats true or not)? If it is, my first advice is just to calm down and not try to push anything too hard. Challenge yourself, but not to the point where you are upset.

Kevin

[Sukadrukanga]

I thought Hypnotic state IS a trace.

So, if those methods work better for you, use them.

[VeniHemealm]

Thanks for the replys. Flickeringthoughts, there is a little frusteratoin because 2 nights ago I slipped into trance within a minute or two and I was totally aware that it was a trance. Then last night I attempted again for a straight 30 mins and got absolutly no where except going into a trance for about a few seconds, then my laptop kicked me out. And that was about 15-20 mins if trying. I read a trance tqunique over the internet and Im trying it out right after Im done making this post. Hopefully it works better. Just a question, but what do you guys use to get into the trance state? About how long does it take you to get in to that state? thanks again.