[MeatteCen]

Hello AP Friends,

This was the first time that I had setup the experiment with the cards. My wife placed one card on the bedroom door and another card on the door that leads to the mudroom and to the outside the house. Both cards were faced down taped at the top. I figured this would be a great experiment and not to hard to miss since I would be projecting into that path.

The cards were placed on the door about 3-4 weeks ago and it took me that long to finally wield the results.

Anyways, roughly around 3:30AM 7/14/2005 I awakened into the trance state after have gone to bed about a 1/2hr prior. I did feel the vibrations and realize that I was rather in a good stance to project. As always, I just rolled out off the bed and onto the floor. I knew exactly what I wanted to accomplish and that was to view the card on the door. I floated around the bed frame and pushed my way towards the door. I was able to pull the card off the door and view the number and suit. The card that I read was the King of Diamonds. After that, I lost control and was pulled back the way I traveled around the bed-frame.

The weird thing is that when I was on the bed, my astral body was upright and my legs were on the bed. Basically, sitting upright on the bed and during that time I was spinning around in circles. I felt the physical body trying to re-align my astral inside of my physical but just couldn't. I had to actually had to lay down and focus and could feel the alignment kick in.
I kinda of wonder if this would be a good technique to prevent from coming back into the physical if you want to stay out longer?

Now, the next part is interesting because I thought I had awakened in the physical. I could see my wife Katie and she said to me "Wow, that was fast for you to verify the card". So we both went over to the door, pulled the card off and this time it was 8 of hearts.

Finally, I physically awakened and realized what had just occurred. So I grabbed my notepad, and removed the physical card off the door and went into the kitchen were there was light. I would be able to write the notes and see the actual card. To my surprise the physical card in the bedroom was 2 of hearts. Even though it wasn't the 8 at least I got the suit correct.

I decided not to remove the card on the front door leading to the mud room because I would again try to project later. Well, at 10:46AM I was able to project and this time no vibes were present. I did hear music from this astral projection subliminal tape I listen to physically and imagined myself rolling inside my physical like a log quickly turning.

Getting out of the body was a breeze and I moved quickly to the front door with the objective of reveling the second card. At the time, I was able to see the card and make out the number, contents BUT the problem that occurred which wasn't really a problem. I was able to stay out of body for 10-15mins exploring everything around me. I knew at the time if I was to abort the projection and come back that the experience would be cut short. So I decided to put the card in my pocket for when I would lose consciousness I could quickly look at the card upon returning and have a better memory.

Well, never a less I didn't realize this experience would be very beautiful, moving, and so inspirational that I forgot about the card details. During the experience I ran into two teenagers that I had asked if there were deceased and they both laughed at me. After that, I saw 3 black people, 2 men and 1 woman. I had asked them specifically if they were deceased and the black woman said "yes and that God is her savior and glory to be" I told her that I was sorry to hear that and agreed with her about her statement.

The other elements of the projection is that I was in a backyard which to be believed by me I was located at my mom and dads in the astral. When I was on the back deck, there were many flowers growing. Red, Pink and White in one flower petal. so I decided to pull the flower off and smell it. I could sense the texture, winkle touch and smell the scent of the flower. After that I turned to the sky and said "God, I love you and Thank You for this gift". Also, I asked help from a higher source like a angel or something from God. When I looked at the sky I could see a shimmer of a ray of light beam thru this pine tree and out from no where was this bird. The bird was a size of a watermelon, almost like a blown up puffer fish. I asked this bird at the time if you/it/he/her was my helper and it nodded back to me gracefully shaking his head up and down.

There's more to this experience and probably would take another 2-3 pages to detail, but I picked out the beautiful highlights of the experience. Imagine if I had aborted the projection upon verifying the card what I would have lost...!

When I finally returned back to my physical body, I went to the kitchen room and removed the card off of the mud room door. The physical playing card was the Jack of Diamonds.

What is truly interesting about this experiment is that the first projection and the false awakening the both times that cards matched the suit.

Astral Bedroom - card I read was King of Diamonds
Physical Front Room Door - card is Jack of Diamonds

Physical Bedroom - card was 2 of hearts
False Awaking Astral Bedroom - card I read with my wife was 8 of Hearts

What I think happened is that in the first projection and false awakening I had already read both cards. So if I was reading the card in the bedroom, I would have been actually reading it in the front room kitchen door and vice verse. I know that the card in the astral that I tried reading on the second attempt was not suit or the number on the physical cards. I am going by gut instinct and vague memory.

Just for the record and to add onto my experience from a few days ago. Yesterday at work I was on my break and was jogging. I've been jogging at work for 15Min's a day for the last couple of months now. Along my travels there was a playing card face down on the cement. I did not pick the card up because I wanted to finish. Anyways, I came up to the card again this evening still faced down. Out of curiosity I picked the card up..
To my surprise it was the Jack of Diamonds.

The odds of having the same suit in one astral projection and false awakening attempt is 416 to 1. I still have more experiments with the cards but for a first time shot - pretty dam good!!!

You have four suites of cards.

52(cards) * 2(two cards verified) * 4(4 suits) = actually equals 416 to 1.

Since, these are astral events - Each point is unique upon traveling to a different location) and not just a series. Thus, in order to get one card right it is unique -

I believe this calculation is correct on the stats. A few fellows over in Astral Pulse begged to differ.


tvos

[MeatteCen]

Orin,

a few others have explained the stats to me on another forum but I disagree - this is what my brother came up with, if it makes any sense. he's a engineer and knows his math..

You have four suites of cards.

52(cards) * 2(two cards verified) * 4(4 suits) = actually equals 416 to 1.

Since, these are astral events - Each point is unique upon traveling to a different location) and not just a series. Thus, in order to get one card right it is unique -

So I lied saying it was 500 to 1, but now its 400 to 1.


Then my friend Mike posted:

You guessed the correct suit of the first card and that it was a face
card. The number of cards that satisfy this constraint is 3.

On the second guess - which we'll assume corresponded to the 2nd
card, you got the right suit and saw a number card. The number of
cards that would fit that description is 10.

So it's 3 out of 52 (first) and 10 out of 52 (second)
3/52*10/52 = 30/( 2704 ) = 1/90.133 : 90 to 1 odds.
Still very impressive.


So I still don't know who's right or the way its percieved.

Never a less, still the ods getting the suit and the mix-up on the king/jack is very good..

Tvos

[zzquo0iR]

I've been doing online remote viewing experiments where people RV what I have in a box. So far people have been surprisingly accurate but I haven't had anyone use an OBE to view the objects.

Here's the current experiment:
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... jsp?t=3095

I think that it's easier to tell the qualities of an object (such as hard/soft, heavy/light, etc) than it is to gather numeric information such as telling between 9 of hearts versus 8 of hearts. So I'd be really interested to see what you are able to detect if you want to come take a look in my RVing box!

[jhfsdhf]

Just a quick note on the odds.... the odds of the same card coming up twice from a pack of 52 is 52 to 1,

If you think about it if you shuffled a deck and picked a card at random for example it was the ace of spades.... you then put it back in the deck shuffled them again, there are still 52 cards and the ace of spades has a 1 in 52 chance of being drawn.

Sounds like a great projection though!