Is he an APBT, AST, OR AB? - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**lE3l6Lgn** · 03-10-2012, 06:58 AM

**movlabs** · 03-10-2012, 06:59 AM

You don't know?

also those pics make it hard to tell. they are bad angles.

**Kryfamid** · 04-09-2012, 07:07 AM

hes dee oh gee

**Clilmence** · 04-09-2012, 07:22 AM

Im fairly new to all the different kinds of bullies. Before a month ago I thought an pitbull was a pitbull and ddnt know there was "different kinds". Thats why im asking yall.. So I can learn. Hes registered as an amstaff. But I think he looks like an apbt. I need yalls opinion bc your more experienced than me.

**GarryPaterson** · 04-09-2012, 07:26 AM

you can't tell by a picture you need to look at the dogs pedigree

**movlabk** · 04-09-2012, 07:26 AM

To make it even more confusing for you, some APBT are dual registered with other registries as AmStaffs, so being registered as something doesn't mean as much as most people think.

**Nesskissabe** · 04-09-2012, 07:27 AM

Plenty of members looked at his lines, and told you he is ambully

**UpperMan** · 04-09-2012, 07:41 AM

Dam and sire are both registered as am staff. BUT I have never seen am staffs like that. Do you follow what im saying here? The question is what does THAT sire in the pics look like? That dog is my pups dad. The dam looks just like him besides being lighter.

**rhybrisee** · 04-09-2012, 07:51 AM

Dam and sire are both registered as am staff. BUT I have never seen am staffs like that. Do you follow what im saying here? The question is what does THAT sire in the pics look like? That dog is my pups dad. The dam looks just like him besides being lighter.

They can be registered as amstaffs and not be amstaffs, the papers don't matter as much as the bloodlines, you can't tell the breed from the pics, he seems to be ambully no matter what the papers say

**Suvaxal** · 04-09-2012, 07:56 AM

Also the fact that the website says they are apbts and the papers say ast id say they don't even know what they are breeding

**GreesyBeeva** · 04-09-2012, 11:03 AM

What are the names of some of the dogs in his peds? His parents' registered names?

You can't tell from just a picture, I know American Bullies that look like APBTs and I know APBTs that look like American Bullies.

**SoftrermaBioniaSat** · 04-09-2012, 11:08 AM

Do they have a website or anything?

**education** · 04-09-2012, 11:51 AM

Do they have a website or anything?

OP posted a website in the puppy section under "my new puppy gator".

As has been said; you cannot tell 100% visually; you really have to look at bloodlines for confirmation.

That said; I'm no expert but I looked at the website for fun. I didn't recognize any bloodlines on the Sire's side. On the Dam's side Camelot and Greyline I know are bully lines.

That said I would say you have an Ambully; maybe an AmbullyXAST.

Dad is gorgeous; and I don't think overdone; however given the weights you listed for both parents - that sort of pushes them more into the bully category; IMO.

**FourEsters** · 04-09-2012, 01:33 PM

What do you mean you've never seen an Amstaff like that? What are Amstaffs supposed to look like?

**drugsprevi** · 04-09-2012, 01:35 PM

The weights are just my guess. But the mom and dad were not bred by THEM. I just got the pup through them. I looked through all ty he pics on here like a member suggested. Ive come to the conclusion that they are probably run o the mill generic pitbulls. But I will keep everyone updated on the pups growth.

**gWhya5ct** · 04-09-2012, 01:37 PM

I really appreciate and am thankful for everyones help and advice on here.

**Aozozbag** · 04-09-2012, 01:47 PM

I didn't catch the weights that you estimated, but Amstaffs can range in their weights quite a bit. My dogs lines tend to be 55-65lbs. (males) when full grown. Sako is right at 55lbs. currently. I have a friend who owns one of the AKC's top 20 Amstaffs and her dog is around 80lbs.. and he's not fat, he just has a ton of bone and is a few inches taller than Sako.

**sherrferris** · 04-09-2012, 02:24 PM

Im fairly new to all the different kinds of bullies. Before a month ago I thought an pitbull was a pitbull and ddnt know there was "different kinds". .

There ARE different breeds that fall under the general category of "bull breeds" (not "bullies").

There ARE NOT different "kinds" of Pit Bulls.

There are American Pit Bull Terriers (Pit Bulls); American Staffordshire Terriers (Am Stafs) and Staffordshire Bull Terriers (Staffords, Staffys); and other breeds which fall under "bull breeds".

**lYVgWWcP** · 04-09-2012, 02:29 PM

Dam and sire are both registered as am staff. BUT I have never seen am staffs like that. Do you follow what im saying here? The question is what does THAT sire in the pics look like? That dog is my pups dad. The dam looks just like him besides being lighter.

I've seen tall, leggy Am Stafs like that; it's the red nose that is unusual -- not unheard of, but unusual.

Do you have the registration slip with you as owner and the pedigree that comes with that slip?

Carla

**esenesesinas** · 04-09-2012, 02:32 PM

To make it even more confusing for you, some APBT are dual registered with other registries as AmStaffs, so being registered as something doesn't mean as much as most people think.

I think you have it backwards!

APBTs CANNOT be registered as Am Stafs with AKC.
Am Stafs CAN (or used to be) be registered as APBTs with both UKC and ADBA.

Carla

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Clilmence Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Im fairly new to all the different kinds of bullies. Before a month ago I thought an pitbull was a pitbull and ddnt know there was "different kinds". Thats why im asking yall.. So I can learn. Hes registered as an amstaff. But I think he looks like an apbt. I need yalls opinion bc your more experienced than me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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GarryPaterson Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 354 Senior Member	you can't tell by a picture you need to look at the dogs pedigree Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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movlabk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 376 Senior Member	To make it even more confusing for you, some APBT are dual registered with other registries as AmStaffs, so being registered as something doesn't mean as much as most people think. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Nesskissabe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	Plenty of members looked at his lines, and told you he is ambully Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2012, 07:41 AM	#8
UpperMan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	Dam and sire are both registered as am staff. BUT I have never seen am staffs like that. Do you follow what im saying here? The question is what does THAT sire in the pics look like? That dog is my pups dad. The dam looks just like him besides being lighter. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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rhybrisee Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Dam and sire are both registered as am staff. BUT I have never seen am staffs like that. Do you follow what im saying here? The question is what does THAT sire in the pics look like? That dog is my pups dad. The dam looks just like him besides being lighter. They can be registered as amstaffs and not be amstaffs, the papers don't matter as much as the bloodlines, you can't tell the breed from the pics, he seems to be ambully no matter what the papers say Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Suvaxal Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	Also the fact that the website says they are apbts and the papers say ast id say they don't even know what they are breeding Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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GreesyBeeva Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 325 Senior Member	What are the names of some of the dogs in his peds? His parents' registered names? You can't tell from just a picture, I know American Bullies that look like APBTs and I know APBTs that look like American Bullies. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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SoftrermaBioniaSat Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 404 Senior Member	Do they have a website or anything? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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education Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	Do they have a website or anything? OP posted a website in the puppy section under "my new puppy gator". As has been said; you cannot tell 100% visually; you really have to look at bloodlines for confirmation. That said; I'm no expert but I looked at the website for fun. I didn't recognize any bloodlines on the Sire's side. On the Dam's side Camelot and Greyline I know are bully lines. That said I would say you have an Ambully; maybe an AmbullyXAST. Dad is gorgeous; and I don't think overdone; however given the weights you listed for both parents - that sort of pushes them more into the bully category; IMO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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FourEsters Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	What do you mean you've never seen an Amstaff like that? What are Amstaffs supposed to look like? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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drugsprevi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	The weights are just my guess. But the mom and dad were not bred by THEM. I just got the pup through them. I looked through all ty he pics on here like a member suggested. Ive come to the conclusion that they are probably run o the mill generic pitbulls. But I will keep everyone updated on the pups growth. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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gWhya5ct Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	I really appreciate and am thankful for everyones help and advice on here. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Aozozbag Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	I didn't catch the weights that you estimated, but Amstaffs can range in their weights quite a bit. My dogs lines tend to be 55-65lbs. (males) when full grown. Sako is right at 55lbs. currently. I have a friend who owns one of the AKC's top 20 Amstaffs and her dog is around 80lbs.. and he's not fat, he just has a ton of bone and is a few inches taller than Sako. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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sherrferris Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 605 Senior Member	Im fairly new to all the different kinds of bullies. Before a month ago I thought an pitbull was a pitbull and ddnt know there was "different kinds". . There ARE different breeds that fall under the general category of "bull breeds" (not "bullies"). There ARE NOT different "kinds" of Pit Bulls. There are American Pit Bull Terriers (Pit Bulls); American Staffordshire Terriers (Am Stafs) and Staffordshire Bull Terriers (Staffords, Staffys); and other breeds which fall under "bull breeds". Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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lYVgWWcP Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	Dam and sire are both registered as am staff. BUT I have never seen am staffs like that. Do you follow what im saying here? The question is what does THAT sire in the pics look like? That dog is my pups dad. The dam looks just like him besides being lighter. I've seen tall, leggy Am Stafs like that; it's the red nose that is unusual -- not unheard of, but unusual. Do you have the registration slip with you as owner and the pedigree that comes with that slip? Carla Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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esenesesinas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	To make it even more confusing for you, some APBT are dual registered with other registries as AmStaffs, so being registered as something doesn't mean as much as most people think. I think you have it backwards! APBTs CANNOT be registered as Am Stafs with AKC. Am Stafs CAN (or used to be) be registered as APBTs with both UKC and ADBA. Carla Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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