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Old 08-19-2012, 10:50 PM   #1
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Default they are saying that some of Vick's dogs cant be adopted out
Because they are too da and unpredictable. I don't understand why fighting would make a dog human aggressive unless Vick was doing something to the dogs that made them.scared of people. And not adopting a dog because he may be extremely da is stupid. They need to ;find the right home. I said if the dog can't live with humans then itshould be put down
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:56 PM   #2
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It's been 5 years. If there are Vick's dogs out there that still don't have homes, they should be put down IMO. That's a LONG time to be sitting in limbo waiting for an experienced home when they are few and far between in the first place.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:01 AM   #3
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Not adopting out an extremely DA dog is just common sense. It's an accident waiting to happen, and it'll happen to somebody's decent dog. I don't know who made the choice to finally end it but it's the right one.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:41 AM   #4
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FYI- 3 of the dogs could not be adopted they are at best friends in Utah living out there life! I had the opportunity to see them! All others are in homes! They were extremely reactive and were fed using plastic tubes when first arrived at best friends and now the trainer has established trust. But they will never be adoptable. ! Sad. But they are in good place
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:47 AM   #5
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Got a link? sounds like something old
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:03 AM   #6
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http://www.bestfriends.org/vickdogs/
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:06 AM   #7
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Vicktory dogs and more! - Best Friends Network
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:15 AM   #8
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I believe this is most recent. Srry

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Old 08-20-2012, 04:16 AM   #9
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When are rescued fighting dogs, ever saved and adopted? I do know that, a couple of them (Vick's dogs) were actually sent to my county's SPCA and were successfully adopted out (one of them is a RIP now though). We all know, that's because it was a hyped up celebrity's story, with a load of media attention. The truth is, the intent to "save" these fighting dogs, is not to be "adopted" into a new life, rather, the end of the needle. The general public is not suited for a proven fighting dog as a "pet" and they wouldn't take the time, to send them off into the hands of an experienced pit bull owner. That's just not how things work with this breed, as DA is still under the responsibility of the owner "training it out" or "raising them properly". So, of course the shelter is going to say that they are unsuited by that point (DA) alone.
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:47 AM   #10
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When are rescued fighting dogs, ever saved and adopted? I do know that, a couple of them (Vick's dogs) were actually sent to my county's SPCA and were successfully adopted out (one of them is a RIP now though). We all know, that's because it was a hyped up celebrity's story, with a load of media attention. The truth is, the intent to "save" these fighting dogs, is not to be "adopted" into a new life, rather, the end of the needle. The general public is not suited for a proven fighting dog as a "pet" and they wouldn't take the time, to send them off into the hands of an experienced pit bull owner. That's just not how things work with this breed, as DA is still under the responsibility of the owner "training it out" or "raising them properly". So, of course the shelter is going to say that they are unsuited by that point (DA) alone.
To be honest though I wouldn't call these dogs proven fighting dogs. Vick is pretty idiotic and nowhere near the dogman legitimate fighting dogs come from. Anyone can throw two dogs into a box and let them fight and then torture them later. His breeding sucked, his dog fighting sucked, he sucked. I'm willing to bet his dogs aren't anywhere near what real fighting dogs are. Look at Hector. He had no problem switching to a therapy dog. I get the feeling no real dogman would ever take on one of these dogs. That being said I don't see the harm in them being where they are at Best Friends. They are knowledgeable and know how to handle DA dogs as well as HA. Also they don't want just anyone taking these dogs. They probably have a whole process that people have to go through when trying to get a dog like this to make sure they go to the right home which is probably why it is taking this much time to get these dogs adopted.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:36 AM   #11
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Vick's dogs aren't high-class gamedogs. They're just your average DA pit bulls. However, I don't believe the people who rescued these dogs and are working with and supporting these dogs know enough about the nature of dogs and the APBT to be trusted with properly placing highly DA dogs. The dogs are probably better of put to sleep. There's a risk in putting a pit bull in the home of your average dog owner anyway. A dog that's come from fighting conditions and shows serious dog aggression is even more of a liability. Most people just don't know how to understand or care for these dogs. It's not even just 'fighting dogs'. It's the pit bull in general.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love for all of the rescued dogs to find appropriate, loving homes. I just don't believe the people in charge of rehoming them are perfectly capable of finding such homes. I cringe at the idea of furmommies getting ahold of these dogs.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:43 AM   #12
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Most of Vick's dogs were well bred and proven. His camp didn't have much success, but they bought good blood from good stock.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:44 AM   #13
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Most of Vick's dogs were well bred and proven.
How do you know this?
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:11 PM   #14
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Most of Vick's dogs were well bred and proven. His camp didn't have much success, but they bought good blood from good stock.
You can throw two dos together but that does not prove anything or either dog.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=242830

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=242657

Vick wasn't a true dogman. He was in it for the money. Many of his dogs that were rescued have shown themselves to be cold at best and curs at worst. He had a bunch of sub-par dogs that didn't meet his expectations so he abused and killed them. Come on, now. The guy was your typical trash street fighter.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:52 PM   #15
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Vick wasn't a true dogman. He was in it for the money. Many of his dogs that were rescued have shown themselves to be cold at best and curs at worst. He had a bunch of sub-par dogs that didn't meet his expectations so he abused and killed them. Come on, now. The guy was your typical trash street fighter.
Well I am not sure what constitutes a "true" Dogman, but to me a dog fighter is a dog fighter. A lot of them abuse and kill dogs. Many a true dogman has expressed the fact that they do not feed or house curs. Also the reason people get into fighting dogs is they enjoy it. Vick has stated that he liked it and thought it was cool. Many of his buddies were into it. Saying he got into it for the money is silly. Michael Vick was the NFL's highest paid player and at the time had a $130 + million dollar contract. Do you really believe he was into dog fighting for the money?

Vick and his punk ass friends were into to it because of the entertainment value, and while they may have fancied themselves succeeding, the fact that they were not very successful really has no bearing on anything. He stated he loved the dogs, loved pit bulls. Can you love dogs and be a "dogman" especially if you are not in it for the money? Lets see, I don't care about the money, but I love these dogs so I want to fight them because it is my passion to watch dogs tearing each other apart. I contend it is always about the entertainment and seldom about the money or the dogs, which says a lot about those who do it and why. What exactly is the difference between a typical trash street fighter and true dogman. The color of their skin?, the quality of their dogs?, the money in their pocket?, their compassion for the dogs? how well their fights are organized?.

It is pretty hard to paint a nice picture of a dogman if a dogman is a person who fights dogs and enjoys it. Al Capone was a true gangster, the thugs of today are no different with the exception of their level of success. I'm pretty sure the true dogmen want to separate themselves from the untrue dogmen but IMO it is impossible. Just like Al Capone could not separate himself from the other criminals.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:03 PM   #16
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Saying he got into it for the money is silly. Michael Vick was the NFL's highest paid player and at the time had a $130 + million dollar contract. Do you really believe he was into dog fighting for the money?
i dont find it too silly at all most these players are greedy
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:03 PM   #17
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You can throw two dos together but that does not prove anything or either dog.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=242830

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=242657

Vick wasn't a true dogman. He was in it for the money. Many of his dogs that were rescued have shown themselves to be cold at best and curs at worst. He had a bunch of sub-par dogs that didn't meet his expectations so he abused and killed them. Come on, now. The guy was your typical trash street fighter.
I never said a thing about Vick. I don't care about him, or his dogs for that matter. However, Vick paid top dollar, from top dog men for the dogs he owned. He had little success with good blood. Make any conclusions you like about him and his abilities, but the blood was good.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:04 PM   #18
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And how would you know this information?
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:21 PM   #19
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And how would you know this information?
They have these crazy things called registries. I know, madness.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:22 PM   #20
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Wasn't it proven by one of our members who personally knew him and his family that Vick really had nothing to do with any of the fighting..yet people are still talking as if it was all him.
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