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Old 09-30-2011, 04:39 AM   #21
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You didn't read the last sentence of my post: Act, Obey, or Don't Live There.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:52 AM   #22
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I agree with LilianaLove.

And what does "hard work" have to do with obeying the law or how responsible you are as an owner/breeder?

No matter where you live, you need to be aware of and comply with existing laws. It's the law LOL.

All your dog troubles could have been avoided if you had complied with the law and gotten a breeders/dog fancier's license/permit to begin with.

If you don't agree with the law, work to change it ... or run to a place with laws you like.

Here's a link to a reporting of the Las Vegas ordinance that you are affected by. Las Vegas veterinarians and animal rescue groups support the ordinance because of a serious pet over-population especially cats in the area. In 2009, 50,000 animals were taken in off the streets and more than half were PTS. Something had to be done. So, it is not a backdoor BSL situation for instance or breed specific in any way. It's just to try and control a serious general public and social issue with pets in general.

Las Vegas council mandates spaying, neutering of dogs, cats - Breaking News - ReviewJournal.com

It looks like you can obtain a breeder's/dog fancier's permit by simply filling out an application and paying a $50 fee (each year). That would have been the prudent thing to do. I don't think the saving of $50 or not getting it when you were aware of the law simply because you disagreed with the law is worth all this grief.

I'm sorry you find yourself in this situation and sincerely hope things work out for both the dogs and you. But correct me if I'm wrong ... it sounds like you were breeding and selling dogs that had never been to a registry sanctioned event or proven themselves by registry accomplishments and recognition ... and now all of a sudden when the law appears as though it might impact your second income ... you rushed off to an event and are flailing about to comply with permit restrictions. Be aware too that one of the conditions of the permit is that the area you are located in, be zoned for breeding/dog fancier purposes. You might check to make sure you comply with that as well.

Good Luck !!!

(gawd ... just another reason I'm glad I don't live in Las Vegas. If I did, I would have to get out as soon as I could)
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:57 AM   #23
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If you don't agree with the law, work to change it
Yep, that's how I feel.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:05 AM   #24
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yea comply first but work to change it if you don't agree, but I agree with JB about it not being bsl or anything, just trying to control stray problems
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:11 AM   #25
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I wouldn't pay a dime nor would I speuter my animals, but you bet your arse I'd be actively working to change the law at the same time.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:14 AM   #26
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yea I can understand that but I would pay because I would not want to get forced to speuter somehow by the courts so I would comply that way and work on changing it and fighting for my rights
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:38 AM   #27
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requirements for the breeding law in clark county las vegas are the following:

shown once a year at a nationally recognized dog show akc/ukc so if you have pitties without that, no such luck for you. so you can have working pit bulls without those registries, your SOL.

microchips on every dog, mandatory!
rabies on every dog, so if your some kind of hippie who doesnt believe in that your SOL!

its not even the law im pissed about, or the requirements or the little 50 bucks, my point is if you dont have enough people to get there asses out there and issue the permits to those who did what was asked of them then dont have the law! people shouldnt have to sit around for days waiting to have animal control come into there house. and yes they come into your house once a year to examine where the dogs are being kept whether its inside or outside and you have to sit and wait for them to just show up! there should be notice, appointments made not just when ever they get around to it.

only 6 intact dogs allowed. i only have 3 but still.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:52 AM   #28
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Seriously... if you don't like it, friggin move. Or do something about what you don't like!

Where I live, all dogs in the county are required to be speutered, unless they are a registered purebred. At first, it was just AKC... but then me and several others wrote letters about OTHER reputable registries and they expanded it. The fees for licensing are higher, and if you have more than 4 dogs on a property you have to have a kennel license unless the dogs are working on a cattle or sheep ranch.
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:18 PM   #29
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I also hope things work out for you and the dogs, but the others are correct. As a responsible dog owner, you have to keep your dogs safe from being confiscated. First you comply and then you work to change. If you don't want to comply, you don't live there.

One of the arguments you and others can make is that there aren't enough AC officers to handle the workload this law created and probably not enough money in the budget to hire more, so the law is unfairly enforced (only people someone complains about get targeted while others ignored) or not enforced at all and should be abandoned or changed.

I am sure many people have problems with this law and you could probably find groups online or through networking that are trying to have this law removed or changed to work with.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:26 PM   #30
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What I don't like about all of these laws is that it is so hard to keep a "normal" dog. I have one intact male that I got as a kid and he was never a registered show dog. He's purebred but his eartips wouldn't flop (smooth collie) so we didn't bother. I have never had an oops litter (or any litter). My boys are not allowed outside without human chaperones. We are responsible dog owners.

The problems with these laws is that they are so hard to properly enforce. I see too many of the wrong people being slammed by them. I have a love/hate relationship with them. They make my life so much harder and add so much stress but they can, when implemented properly, help shut down some BYBs.

Someone mentioned rabies laws... I'm still torn on to vaccinate or not to vaccinate but my dogs will ALWAYS be current on rabies. The reason being is that, IF the dog were to bite someone (or, like in my situation, an accidental human/dog collision that resulted in 3 stitches from a tooth) and the wrong people hear about it there is no way for them to know if the dog has rabies or not so, if your dog isn't up to date... you are SOL. They take your dog and slice it open to determine if it had rabies or not. Dude was up to date on his rabies when the aforementioned accident occurred and, even though it was NOT a bite, they STILL had us quarantine him for 10 days... Not that we did since he didn't bite and they didn't take down any official information... when they called back to ask how the quarantine went I got called snarky...

OP, honestly, it is the responsibility of the dog owner to make sure they understand the laws BEFORE moving to make sure that, once there, all necessary issues can be taken care of in a timely fashion.
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:03 PM   #31
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Hey Bluetick mama, are you Dude and Buck's mom, or mama on DFC? If so, hi!
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:22 PM   #32
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With posts made like the one below ,should the thread starter eva be allowed near and animal let alone have any rights on breeding it ?
i understand completly.

about the videos, i take artistic photos, the videos are not ment to all artistic, they are for educational purposes only. I used to look for videos about bull terrier's breeding and I could never find much, so thats why I have it there, for others to view if needed.

I have pictures on my myspace that are of artistic breeding. However, it may not be for everyone. I like it, I think its beautiful to see dogs breeding, but thats JUST ME, just because you may not agree with it doesnt mean you need to talk down to me. Opinions are like butt holes, everybody has one!!
Am i lying now ?
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:59 AM   #33
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i wanna be the first one to say OLD THREAD
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:35 PM   #34
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I'm not reading everyone's post but to the OP: What law isn't a berden?
Following rules in general is a berden to me, I wanna do what I wanna do, when I want to do it.

How hard is it to realize it can't be that way, due to people that abuse certain laws such as this one.

I wouldn't be happy about wasting all that time waiting either BUT it is what it is, fight for the right to find another way to register. That's including under other registries.

I don't see a problem with this law at all except for the fact it could be run better. I sure as hell wouldn't complain about how little it affects me when it's stopping BYB in the end.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:42 AM   #35
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