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Old 06-09-2012, 05:03 AM   #21
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I'll see what I can do.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:04 AM   #22
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Nice stick,looks better than mine.I make mine out of hammer handles.
Yeah Shane is great and makes some real quality stuff. I wouldn't want to be without it that's for sure.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:06 AM   #23
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Honestly, I think the safest option for the dogs is to take control of their head and neck and keep them from shaking. It's the shaking that tears the skin and causes more damage than punctures. If you can stabilize the head and neck, eventually the dogs will release and you can separate them. Meanwhile, assuming you have at least two people, someone should be finding something that looks like a break stick and attempt to use it. And before someone says 'that's dangerous to the person' or 'that won't stop them from shaking', this is what we did when we separated a newfoundland from a bull mastiff. As two people stabilized the dogs, others attempted to use the water hose and beat the dogs off. Eventually, someone shoved a broom stick in the bull mastiff's mouth and broke him off, allowing us to separate the dogs. If the dogs had been allowed to shake, the newfoundland would've lost his ear.

BTW, this was the big man in question:


The large shaved area on his right shoulder is from his injuries in the fight.

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Old 06-09-2012, 05:07 AM   #24
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Yes.

It's a whole lot easier to just make a habit of carrying a set around than to panic, scramble around and hope to hell you can find something to use if, when and where you need it.
"A set" -- you carry a whole set?!
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:08 AM   #25
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I agree with break stick but I have used and does work is an air horn. I know sounds nuts. But blow that thing when they are latched on and bam ! Quick release! just alternative until u can get urself a break stick!
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:14 AM   #26
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"A set" -- you carry a whole set?!
2 is much better than one actually,if you have someone else there to help.You can break both dogs at the same time and separate them a lot easier.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:16 AM   #27
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I agree with break stick but I have used and does work is an air horn. I know sounds nuts. But blow that thing when they are latched on and bam ! Quick release! just alternative until u can get urself a break stick!
I wouldn't trust that all dogs will break to an airhorn,besides how handy is an airhorn.If you can carry that you can carry a breaking stick.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:30 AM   #28
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I've yet to deal with actually using a break stick, but I never travel anywhere without mine and keep it right next to her leash in the residence. These dogs, once determined and "turned on" will not simply release, with most techniques, that we think will work, when it's really on. We don't exhaust the break stick usage and responsibility, if there were truly other more proper and safer methods, that are more easily accessible and liable, than the break stick. For other breeds, I wouldn't doubt the other methods to be more than likely, probable, but not with pit bulls.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:31 AM   #29
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I wouldn't trust that all dogs will break to an airhorn,besides how handy is an airhorn.If you can carry that you can carry a breaking stick.
I agree totally with the break stick. But as said some places don't allow. And I've always had air horn on hand cause I live in a highly beat populated area! Op asked if others worked, I gave an air horn cause I've seen it work numerous times! It's just an option not my first choice! Sheesh!
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:31 AM   #30
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Highly bear populatated. Sorry! And all air horns aren't huge. They do make little ones that are just as loud!
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:34 AM   #31
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I agree totally with the break stick. But as said some places don't allow. And I've always had air horn on hand cause I live in a highly beat populated area! Op asked if others worked, I gave an air horn cause I've seen it work numerous times! It's just an option not my first choice! Sheesh!
No,i wasn't saying not to try it,if that's all you have.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:49 AM   #32
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No,i wasn't saying not to try it,if that's all you have.
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Old 06-09-2012, 06:02 AM   #33
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I agree with break stick but I have used and does work is an air horn. I know sounds nuts. But blow that thing when they are latched on and bam ! Quick release! just alternative until u can get urself a break stick!
Thanks -- I did ask for alternatives! I have seen air horns break up dog fights before, but I don't think a Pit has been involved. I didn't know they make tiny air horns -- how cute.

2 is much better than one actually,if you have someone else there to help.You can break both dogs at the same time and separate them a lot easier.
Ah, makes good sense.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:09 AM   #34
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Unfortunately break sticks don't come with a manual either you know how to use them or you don't. If the break stick is smarter than you are .. you are shit out of luck.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:10 AM   #35
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Unfortunately break sticks don't come with a manual either you know how to use them or you don't. If the break stick is smarter than you are .. you are shit out of luck.
Totally off topic, but I think I love you.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:12 AM   #36
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Totally off topic, but I think I love you.
HAHAHA! I am pretty easy to love
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:27 AM   #37
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I've been wanting a Pit too. It's basically on the to buy list. I recommend you find out how to use it correctly. I tried on a trained dog latching onto something and it was more difficult for me than it looks. People suggest carrying one around at all times and like somebody said it does make a good weapon in case if somebody attacks you. I only volunteer with pits right now, but still I carry it with me...everywhere

Question: let's say two dogs gets into a scruffle, but one of them is not a pit...how would that work out...i mean the pit will hold on, but most other dogs will let go and try to come back. I'm actually afraid of being bitten should that situation arises.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:37 AM   #38
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You can't use a break stick until one of the dogs quits or the pace of the fight slows significantly.
That is a load of batshit.
It doesn't matter if the dogs just started or have been at it for a while, straddle one,grab the back of its neck and shove the stick in the back of the dogs mouth,twist and pull it back as quick as possible. I have broken up a few fights, some I was lucky enough to have a stick on hand and others i found something to use or did it by hand.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:46 AM   #39
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Have had Pit bulls for 20 years at least. I am 67, female and have RA. I have never used a breakstick though I own one. I can walk any of my 5 dogs, pit bull, AB, and mix of the 2 breds with 2 fingers. I run a dog rescue so I do a lot of crating and rotating. At the moment I have Chihuahuas here, Min Pins, pugs, Labs, and some pit bull pups. Over the years I have broken up many fights between dogs of many breeds. The safest dogs to break up are Pit bulls. I have only had one bulldog ever redirect on me. I keep strong collars on the dogs at all time so if a fight breaks out it is fast and simple to choke a dog off. Just straddle the dog with the best hold, grab the collar, pull straight up and forward, not back towards you but straight up and away from you, which puts the collar right under the chin, not down on the neck. The dog will hang anywhere from 10 seconds to 55 before letting go. Sometimes they will pass out which makes it all the easier to get the 2 dogs separated. Never had a dog seriously hurt breaking up a fight like this.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:02 AM   #40
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Not a fan of brain damage or heart failure, thus not a fan of choking out dogs. I don't get it, I guess. Break sticks are way easier and safer for everyone. To each his own I guess. Your age and years of experience do not trump the amount of potential damage you are doing to your dogs when there are safer alternatives that you choose not to use. 55 seconds? Really?

Normal ECG- note the T wave.


Ischemic ECG (attributable to lack of oxygen)- note the T wave again.


I prefer to have my dog's heart function normally to prevent brain damage. But that's just me.
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