[Msrwbdas]

http://www.facebook.com/Urgentdeathrowdogs If you live in New York Please click on the website! Pits are on death row, tons... Please consider fostering or adopting one if you are a New Yorker or anyone else that doesn't mind the drive..

[Scukonaher]

It is unfortunate there are so many pit/mixes on the road to euthanization in nyc. We saved ours from a high kill shelter in the city. if they had known about her leg problem, she would have been put to sleep very quickly. The rescues can only foster and save so much. It all begins with the large score of irresponsible owners, at least in the nyc area.

CD

[Sertvfdnhgjk]

No offense but the people that adopt a dog because it's on death row is not the type of person that should be adopting dogs, much less bull breeds due to their dog aggressive tendencies that many owners aren't prepared for.

I really hate the stories about people randomly deciding to adopt a specific dog BECAUSE the dog is about to be PTS. Yes it's sad but more thought needs to go into this kind of commitment.

[avaiguite]

I agree.

Some of the rescues are adopting out pit mixes left and right, without any consideration as to whether the adopter has even the slightest bit of education on the bully breed mix, and they end up being returned to the rescue because the "dog has too much energy", or "it doesn't get along with my other dog."

These rescue organizations are part of the problem as well, they mean well but they have no education on the bully breed either.

[Scukonaher]

[QUOTE=_unoriginal;1231370]No offense but the people that adopt a dog because it's on death row is not the type of person that should be adopting dogs, much less bull breeds due to their dog aggressive tendencies that many owners aren't prepared for.

That is a pretty generalized statement. I do not know about elsewhere in the country, but in NYC "aggressive breeds" are screened carefully to gauge their inherent breed tendencies. If the dog is violent, a biter or deemed unfit to put back out in society, they are put to sleep asap. In NYC the Animal Control Shelters are high kill because there is not enough money to keep every dog that comes in. I have seen quite a few adopted bully breeds from these shelters, and they were for most excellent family companions.

With all the myths and stories that abound about the bully breeds, it is probably safe to assume that an individual that adopts one, whether it is about to be PTS or not, has an inkling of what they are getting into.

I was hesitant about adopting an animal without knowing the parents or gene pool, but i sat with ours, and "tested" her out for quite a bit. There was another puppy there that we liked, but in working with her, i deemed she was going to be trouble. At 4 months, she was highly aggressive with small children already. Will my next dog be from a shelter? No. But I do not regret adopting ours.

My last dog was 1/2 Irish Staffy & Patterdale. Excellent dog, extremely obedient, great with people and children. Although a very game dog, he was happiest when hunting, he never game me problems. In knowing the dogs parents, I was very heavy handed with him though. His mother, the Staffy, was highly prey driven, and a known cat killer.

I feel with these breeds, it should be akin to having a firearm. The individual(s) should be safety trained, licensed, a clear criminal background check done, and being capable of the needs that come with these breeds. I live in Harem, I see folks with bully breeds everyday that have no business with a Yorkie, let alone a bully.

Just my .02 cents

CD

[Sertvfdnhgjk]

And there's nothing wrong with your $.02 but I said DOG aggression, which is completely different and unrelated to human aggression.

[Scukonaher]

Yes, I understood what you wrote.

[Sertvfdnhgjk]

I see. I thought you were referring to HA. Then I'll politely disagree. There's nothing wrong with dog aggression. It doesn't mean the dog is unstable or unsound. It's a genetic trait that EVERYONE involved in the bull breeds should be aware of. Sadly, many people aren't. It takes a different kind of handling and awareness. And no, it's ignorant to believe that people that are adopting these "types" of dogs have any idea of how these dogs are genetically. Even dogs that are tested to be animal friendly in a shelter can turn on to be animal aggressive in the future. The only way to even closely guarantee that you're getting a dog that is animal friendly, is to get a dog outside of the bull breeds. They also says that getting a bull breed over 2-3 years old will show you more of that dog's true personality but that's only true to an extent. My dog, for example, didn't turn dog aggressive until he was almost 5.

[Sertvfdnhgjk]

And I'll just add that any degree of human aggression is not acceptable in this breed. No one can guarantee that a dog that doesn't show signs of animal aggression won't turn animal aggressive in the future just like no one can guarantee that a seemingly sound puppy won't turn into an unstable HA mess of an adult.

[Scukonaher]

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