[Dkavtbek]

I think when letting a dog pursue an animal one must accept potential risks. My aunt and uncle have a variety of mutts (terrier mixes, a hound mix, apbt mix, and a border collie mix)who protect their chickens from raccoons and foxes, SO FAR the dogs have been lucky and nothing has happened to them...And you know what they are some really happy dogs, and if something did happen to them one day, at least they went down doing what they loved, while having a wonderful life, being dogs and doing a job.

[Petrushkaukrop]

fence or cement or pavers on the bottom, put a top on the pen.

If you read, you'd know the pen had a roof on it already.

[Petrushkaukrop]

I think when letting a dog pursue an animal one must accept potential risks. My aunt and uncle have a variety of mutts (terrier mixes, a hound mix, apbt mix, and a border collie mix)who protect their chickens from raccoons and foxes, SO FAR the dogs have been lucky and nothing has happened to them...And you know what they are some really happy dogs, and if something did happen to them one day, at least they went down doing what they loved, while having a wonderful life, being dogs and doing a job.

Wish I had a Like button LOL

[ZanazaKar]

If you read, you'd know the pen had a roof on it already.

ignore the first part of my sentence, thats fine.

[iceleliewBync]

I have never posted anything of a bear on any thread haha

[TainuibeFaimb]

On the subject of escape artists, about 2 months ago I was teaching Tye the touch command so he could learn to shut lights on wall switches and turn on, well this little stinker the other day was out of sight and alittle to quiet for an 8 mo old pup so I called him and nothing so I looked in my room kids room out back and my heart was in my throat I went down the stairs to head to the family room and as I get down the stairs the front door is there I spot Tye laying in the grass out front catching some sun! I called him in and thought how did he get out the storm door I had the lock on! So about half hour later I find him down stairs using his newly perfected command takin his paw and sliding the lock switch down. ! Mmmhmmm sneaky next time I teach something I'll be sure to think about what else he can use it for! Holy smart dogs! They find a way apparently lol

[Petrushkaukrop]

LOL! Thats too funny Lisa. Dogs are way smarter then what we give them credit for.

Also update on the pen... I checked the inside to see if we could have a chain spot inside and there are too many beams (3 of them) that he could get tangled up on. So I am going to look into digging a trench along the inside of the pen and filling it with cement and see if it will hold him in.

[orgagsUpsepsy]

Why exactly is this dog going to become a junkyard dog? That seems fairly counterproductive to the dogs well being. I guess it is your dog, do with it as you please. I feel that you are setting the dog up for failure, why not rehome him?

[Petrushkaukrop]

I'm setting my dog up for failure but placing him across the street which is still my property but the junk yard is owned by my uncle? How so? Please tell me how I am setting up my dog for failure. I'd love to read this one. I mean I have free access, come and go as I please. I still am responsible for his vet care, feeding and watering. I can turn him loose, plenty of room to do the Weight Pull Training I want with him, as well as tires he can pull around! I can work on recall and other obedience while in the fenced in area... So please, tell me. Just because he isn't in my house, why do I need to rehome him and that I am setting him up for failure?

[joanbertis]

I'm setting my dog up for failure but placing him across the street which is still my property but the junk yard is owned by my uncle? How so? Please tell me how I am setting up my dog for failure. I'd love to read this one. I mean I have free access, come and go as I please. I still am responsible for his vet care, feeding and watering. I can turn him loose, plenty of room to do the Weight Pull Training I want with him, as well as tires he can pull around! I can work on recall and other obedience while in the fenced in area... So please, tell me. Just because he isn't in my house, why do I need to rehome him and that I am setting him up for failure?

I kinda agree with this...how is this any worse then having a backyard dog ( I KNOW some members here do) or a chain dog (again I KNOW some people here do)

[Dkavtbek]

Why exactly is this dog going to become a junkyard dog? That seems fairly counterproductive to the dogs well being. I guess it is your dog, do with it as you please. I feel that you are setting the dog up for failure, why not rehome him?

As long as the dog gets proper care and attention why does it matter? how is the dog being set up for failure?

[orgagsUpsepsy]

It is being set up for failure because the dog already got loose once. The pen should have been secured before the dog ever was put in there. The dog could have ended up being a statistic due to owners error, that is not the kind of owners that this breed needs.

[ZanazaKar]

It is being set up for failure because the dog already got loose once. The pen should have been secured before the dog ever was put in there. The dog could have ended up being a statistic due to owners error, that is not the kind of owners that this breed needs.

zzziinngg!


but realistically. dogs can get out of kennels thatre set up properly too. shit happens but this isnt one of those times

[Petrushkaukrop]

And he hasn't gone back over there. and wont until we figure out how to fix it. 0o; Geeze give me some credit with my dogs. Shit happens. I'm not setting him up for failure. LOL.

[ñàéäèíã]

Have you thought about the things in a junkyard that can harm a dog? Other than getting cut up there is frequently disease bearing wild vermin in a junkyard as well as a lot of soil pollution from chemicals leeching when it rains to debris embedded in the soil. Other than that, junkyards typically attract teenagers wanting to fuck around with random things and people breaking in to steal parts. A barking dog in a pen is a sitting duck if any one of those types of people decide an alert barker needs to be eliminated.

[iceleliewBync]

it is being set up for failure because the dog already got loose once. The pen should have been secured before the dog ever was put in there. The dog could have ended up being a statistic due to owners error, that is not the kind of owners that this breed needs.

ditto

[55Beaphable]

I think when letting a dog pursue an animal one must accept potential risks. My aunt and uncle have a variety of mutts (terrier mixes, a hound mix, apbt mix, and a border collie mix)who protect their chickens from raccoons and foxes, SO FAR the dogs have been lucky and nothing has happened to them...And you know what they are some really happy dogs, and if something did happen to them one day, at least they went down doing what they loved, while having a wonderful life, being dogs and doing a job.

We need a 'thank you' button on this forum

[Petrushkaukrop]

We need a 'thank you' button on this forum

Agreed! I loved that post.

[drlifeech]

Have you thought about the things in a junkyard that can harm a dog? Other than getting cut up there is frequently disease bearing wild vermin in a junkyard as well as a lot of soil pollution from chemicals leeching when it rains to debris embedded in the soil. Other than that, junkyards typically attract teenagers wanting to fuck around with random things and people breaking in to steal parts. A barking dog in a pen is a sitting duck if any one of those types of people decide an alert barker needs to be eliminated.

It is being set up for failure because the dog already got loose once. The pen should have been secured before the dog ever was put in there. The dog could have ended up being a statistic due to owners error, that is not the kind of owners that this breed needs.

This. All of this. Junkyards are bad places for dogs. The guy across the street from my Grandmother has one and he is always getting new dogs due to them dying/getting hurt/escaping.

[Petrushkaukrop]

I really don't think i'll be taking any advice from you. Sorry. Just like the person who allows his dogs to chase off bears or the man who uses his dogs for Hog hunting, shit happens. I do not plan on placing him over there until I get the pen and fencing fixed. I have actually spoken to my uncle today and gave me a good alternative that will keep him in unless he decides to start eating the fence. which wouldn't be my first time either. I'm not saying 'oh well a dog dies a dog dies.' I love my dogs yes, but He is being placed across the street for a reason. Yes I would be hurt if anything where to happen to them. But its a chance I'm willing to take. Just like the man who hunts with his dogs or the man who uses them for protection. I thank you for your concern, but these are my dogs. I did not ask for people to tell me to rehome them or that what i'm doing is wrong. If I had the title would have been 'junk yard dog... is it a good idea?'. But it isn't. I posted this as a reminder on why even what you think is a sound pen can be something a dog could escape from. Now, before you decide to start posting to someone about what they should do with their dogs; hit up the hunters first. I'm sure they wont tell you anything different. Just because I am placing him across the street doesn't mean I care for him any less or want him out of my hair. I do not have the room and this was the alternative. He will be locked up until someone is over there AND NOT loose at night. He will only be loose when I can let him roam. I will be feeding him and watering him and taking care of his vet bills. I will also be working on his training. My uncle has had 2 dogs in that yard that lived to be over 12 years old. People around here don't mess around in peoples yards that have dogs. Much less anything that looks aggressive.

Your argument isn't valid and if you are trying to make one; please type your own statement and do not quote other people. I'd love to hear your own words.

Have a wonderful day and a good night.